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Post by Lightice on Dec 14, 2012 12:34:36 GMT
Yep, but originally she and Kat did most of their adventures together, and mixed in a bunch of other Court characters. More recently it's been just Annie with one or two supporting characters, more often than not.
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Post by Nnelg on Dec 14, 2012 12:36:05 GMT
anyhow, i wonder why S1 is there. Maybe he will have significance in this? or diego will have significance? I think it's S13 rather than S1. Which is even weirder as this chassis was destroyed. OR it could be S14. 13 is gone so the bots built 14. Any word if the robots just replace decommissioned models with the next iteration? There are other S13 models besides Robot.
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Post by lordofpotatoes on Dec 14, 2012 13:43:56 GMT
Yeah, I'm curious about why S13 is on the opposite side of Reynardine, and why it's there at all. Then there's some minor details, like why is everyone but Kat and Annie looking at Coyote's eye? Could be that everyone is just looking at what opposite of them and the eye isn't necesarily that Coyote is the focus.
This chapter will include S13 and something about the medium. It will either be focused on Coyote doing some stuff the court is worried(Everyone looking at Coyote) about or about Coyote watching what's happening at the court(Coyote's eye in the center).
That's my guess.
EDIT: My reasoning about why it's about the medium is because all three candidates are there, but now I see Jones isn't and it feels like I'm wrong about that, seeing as Jeanne isn't there either it's not about the ghost of Annan waters, it will be about 'changes' and the part where Coyote watches, most likely.
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Post by Georgie L on Dec 14, 2012 14:30:44 GMT
Oh snap did anyone else realize coyote has like 7 eyes? i saw the coyote looking thing, and i thought it looked odd, so i went back a bit and he has like 7 eyes. 2 on head, 1 on each limb, and one on his chest O.o anyhow, i wonder why S1 is there. Maybe he will have significance in this? or diego will have significance? Coyote is a living drawing, even to people in the verse he looks like he is a living drawing. He can basically choose any form he wants and as many eyes as he wants as long as the patterns and other elements which represent him stay too, he can even appear more solid and realistic if he chooses to.
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Post by lordofpotatoes on Dec 14, 2012 14:48:57 GMT
Oh snap did anyone else realize coyote has like 7 eyes? i saw the coyote looking thing, and i thought it looked odd, so i went back a bit and he has like 7 eyes. 2 on head, 1 on each limb, and one on his chest O.o anyhow, i wonder why S1 is there. Maybe he will have significance in this? or diego will have significance? Coyote is a living drawing, even to people in the verse he looks like he is a living drawing. He can basically choose any form he wants and as many eyes as he wants as long as the patterns and other elements which represent him stay too, he can even appear more solid and realistic if he chooses to. But he has been seen to shapeshift into rocks or green forestpeople without those features.
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Post by quoodle on Dec 14, 2012 14:59:59 GMT
anyhow, i wonder why S1 is there. Maybe he will have significance in this? It's not S1 for sure - S1 doesn't have that bump on the top left side of it's head. Plus S1 also has a stylized brow - the rest are plain. compare www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=419
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Post by Nnelg on Dec 14, 2012 15:35:35 GMT
In this chapter, the ravages of puberty leave no one unscathed! The kids in the court are definitely getting older. Kat appears to be a "late bloomer" - but that's not abnormal, I didn't hit the change until well after 16. Except, Kat's still 13 at the most. It would probably be more appropriate to say that Annie's an "early bloomer". Which makes sense, I guess, since fire's a pretty energetic (yet short-lived) reaction. (Although, I assumed this was more due to character development progressing at a faster rate than nominal age, rather than for any in-comic reasoning.)
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Post by aaroncampbell on Dec 14, 2012 15:57:41 GMT
I think it's S13 rather than S1. Which is even weirder as this chassis was destroyed. OR it could be S14. 13 is gone so the bots built 14. Any word if the robots just replace decommissioned models with the next iteration? There are other S13 models besides Robot. AHAHAHahahaha! I had totally forgotten about this page! Clearly that's Montgomery. I wonder what his role is going to be in this chapter? ;D
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Post by maximkat on Dec 14, 2012 19:52:42 GMT
I'm assuming this has to do with whatever their plan was regarding Jeanne.
Also, it's been ages since we've seen Kat. Would be nice to get a chapter about her soon.
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Post by tpman on Dec 14, 2012 20:20:51 GMT
My first thought was that each character has a strong relationship with the one across from them and this chapter will involve the development of those relations. The S13 across from Renard though? Maybe it shows his relationship with the court? More likely it just blows my theory out of the water. An S13 is probably going to show up at some point though. It would be a little random to have just put him in there to preserve the image's symmetry.
Since all the characters here reside in the court and Coyote's in the middle there it might show some sort of change in attitudes between the Court and the Forest. Most likely that would either involve the new medium being chosen or a development with the Annan. The last seems unlikely though seeing as I don't see anything relating to Jeanne or rivers in the title image. If we're being honest though there's a good chance it's something totally out of left field.
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Post by atteSmythe on Dec 14, 2012 20:55:41 GMT
I took having the old and new robots to be 'old Court, new Court' or even something like 'traditional Court, new Court.'
That sort of matches with Rey and Shadow2. 'old Forest, new Forest' or 'traditional Forest, new Forest'
Old guard, new guard.
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Post by goldenknots on Dec 14, 2012 22:01:24 GMT
No. There are other Seraph models. S13 is just one of them.
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Post by Corvo on Dec 14, 2012 22:22:50 GMT
No. There are other Seraph models. S13 is just one of them. Yes, there are other Seraph models. Yes, S13 is one of them. And yes, there are other S13 models besides Robot.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 14, 2012 22:45:38 GMT
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Post by Corvo on Dec 14, 2012 23:04:02 GMT
Yeah, but that does not exclude the possibility that there are other S13s. Here, I'll give an example: Hey, human! I just used "human" to refer specifically to you. Now you are the only human on Earth. Maybe he used "S13" to refer to Robot because there wasn't a name to use, I dunno. No matter. We've all seen other S13 models.
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Post by goldenknots on Dec 15, 2012 5:57:31 GMT
Yeah, but that does not exclude the possibility that there are other S13s. ... Sure it does.
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Post by Corvo on Dec 15, 2012 6:37:51 GMT
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Post by goldenknots on Dec 15, 2012 12:56:24 GMT
We don't know what their sequence numbers are. What makes you think that either one of them is number 13, or number anything-in-particular?
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Post by Lightice on Dec 15, 2012 14:34:37 GMT
Except, Kat's still 13 at the most. It would probably be more appropriate to say that Annie's an "early bloomer". I'm pretty sure that both Annie and Kat are 14, at this point. Aren't they in the eighth grade?
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Post by Nnelg on Dec 15, 2012 14:56:43 GMT
Except, Kat's still 13 at the most. It would probably be more appropriate to say that Annie's an "early bloomer". I'm pretty sure that both Annie and Kat are 14, at this point. Aren't they in the eighth grade? Hm? Well, they were both 10 the first year, and this is the third year, so... They're 12-13 right now.
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Post by gary on Dec 15, 2012 15:21:24 GMT
Hm? Well, they were both 10 the first year, and this is the third year, so... They're 12-13 right now. They're year 9s, 13-14. Trust me, I'm english. That's how our school system works.
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Post by Lightice on Dec 15, 2012 16:34:51 GMT
Hm? Well, they were both 10 the first year, and this is the third year, so... They're 12-13 right now. Where did you get that? I made a mistake and thought that the British school system starts a year later than it actually does, but also that they were a year lower than they actually are. Which still led me to the correct conclusion: around 13-14 years old at this point.
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Post by Corvo on Dec 15, 2012 16:55:07 GMT
We don't know what their sequence numbers are. What makes you think that either one of them is number 13, or number anything-in-particular? Because of the word " model". It means: 4. A style or design of an item: My car is last year's model.So if I have a car of the model A and you have a car with the same design and made by the same company, then it's also the model A. For you to have a model B, something about the design has to be different. Now you can say " well, the robots are the same on the outside, but we don't know about their internal components" and you are right. We don't know and I doubt we'll ever know. Still, we know the Court's been there for quite some time, and S1 is hugely different from S13. Only 12 models were developed to come from a Coyote-knows-how-old fencer robot powered by ether to our little metalic buddy, so I assume huge changes had to be made from one model to the next in line. And then we have at least three robots that look exactly the same, running around the corridors. I think very unlikely that they're different models. Look, I'm not saying that it's impossible, since it all depends on Tom. If he decides the whole comic is actually the dream of a giant pink rabbit, then that is that. I'm just saying I think it fits better in the story if they are the same model.
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Post by csj on Dec 15, 2012 17:21:55 GMT
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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 15, 2012 17:38:08 GMT
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 15, 2012 17:56:11 GMT
(The answer is always Tupac.)
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Post by Nnelg on Dec 15, 2012 18:46:41 GMT
Hm? Well, they were both 10 the first year, and this is the third year, so... They're 12-13 right now. Where did you get that? I made a mistake and thought that the British school system starts a year later than it actually does, but also that they were a year lower than they actually are. Which still led me to the correct conclusion: around 13-14 years old at this point. Oh, you're right. And I'm not sure where I got the number '10' for a starting age at. (I wasn't thinking about the British education system at all, though.)
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Post by Corvo on Dec 15, 2012 19:07:33 GMT
Where did you get that? I made a mistake and thought that the British school system starts a year later than it actually does, but also that they were a year lower than they actually are. Which still led me to the correct conclusion: around 13-14 years old at this point. Oh, you're right. And I'm not sure where I got the number '10' for a starting age at. (I wasn't thinking about the British education system at all, though.) If I remember correctly, Tom said Annie was 12 when she started school. Read it in Word of Tom.
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Post by goldenknots on Dec 15, 2012 19:18:23 GMT
Because of the word " model". It means: 4. A style or design of an item: My car is last year's model.You're reading "model" into the "13", but it is a sequence number. The model is "Seraph". S13 is an individual Seraph model. S13 is referred to as "he", an individual, not as a range of individuals of a given model. I think I'll go with what makes sense in the story, rather than with your creative interpretation. :)
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Post by Nnelg on Dec 15, 2012 19:50:38 GMT
Because of the word " model". It means: 4. A style or design of an item: My car is last year's model.You're reading "model" into the "13", but it is a sequence number. The model is "Seraph". S13 is an individual Seraph model. S13 is referred to as "he", an individual, not as a range of individuals of a given model. I think I'll go with what makes sense in the story, rather than with your creative interpretation. :) It doesn't make too much sense in the story for "13" to be the sequence number, though. The court's been around for a long time. And judging by how full the tomb was in this comic, there is at least a dozen currently-active modern robots for each original. And that's not counting the robots which couldn't make it to this gathering, or which had been destroyed over the centuries since the Court was founded. I'd think the sequence number would be a lot higher than 13. Of course, I could be wrong. Robot may have been sitting on the shelf for a long time, and/or the robots may have made fewer S-models than others.
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