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Post by Lightice on Nov 7, 2012 17:18:26 GMT
To a degree it could. If she started out as "I am your guardian, I was Eglamore's before, etc. etc." it could be plausible. After all it IS Jones, and she is quite candid regarding most things unless, I'm sure, there is a really good reason to not state the fact. Who knows, maybe Surma knew Jones' history as the medium prior :] So Annie's reaction should go with a thought bubble: "Does this mean that ten years from now you're going to start making moves on me?"
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Post by karakai on Nov 7, 2012 17:22:16 GMT
So Annie's reaction should go with a thought bubble: "Does this mean that ten years from now you're going to start making moves on me?" Friday, after her brain stop imploding in on itself from what Jones just told her ;D
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Post by nero on Nov 7, 2012 17:24:03 GMT
When I saw Annie's face, my face mirrored hers. Luckily I wasn't drinking anything or I would have to explain the mess to my family. I'm hoping Jones will explain further but I'm fine if she doesn't(in this chapter).
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Post by palevalkyrie on Nov 7, 2012 17:30:33 GMT
To a degree it could. If she started out as "I am your guardian, I was Eglamore's before, etc. etc." it could be plausible. After all it IS Jones, and she is quite candid regarding most things unless, I'm sure, there is a really good reason to not state the fact. Who knows, maybe Surma knew Jones' history as the medium prior :] I guess I'm just having a hard time imagining how Jones could've explained her relationship to Eglamore in a way that would have triggered the exact images we're presented with in Annie's mind--and why she would explain it that way. You're right that she can be candid, but I don't think she generally goes out of her way to go into that kind of detail where it is unwarranted and would have a high liklihood of making Annie uncomfortable. (Unless, of course, she's trying to 'assess her character' again).
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Post by Gauldoth Half-Dead on Nov 7, 2012 18:21:45 GMT
Finally! Not that I'm complaining about the beautifully detailed pages and all, but there was a line and we have clearly passed it. dragged it into a dark alleyway, beat it senseless and left it in a pool of its own blood. Now that we're done with the flashbacks, though... Carry on, Tom.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Nov 7, 2012 18:42:30 GMT
I went back to make sure I was counting the days right, and this opening thread comment made me laugh. I think you were right after all, smjjames! JonesAbout time we got this question answered with a straight answer. It took 44 days to tell that bit of history, so I do hope Annie got something to eat with her tea! She does look like she could use a shower... ;D
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Post by pasko on Nov 7, 2012 19:22:15 GMT
What's more interesting to the story is not her relationship with JimmyJims (she'll always be there for him *rolls eyes*) - but did she tell Annie the new medium had been decided and if she is it. It is part of this sequence of images. But that's exactly my point. If this is all a visual representation of things she is actually saying to Annie, then why does she even bother at all with Eglamore (as it's not really relevant to Annie), and why does she start on a non-sequiter of "I decided on the new court Medium" to the question of "what are you?" Trying to imagine the dialogue that caused these mental images on Annie's part doesn't fit well for the early images, though once you get past a few decades it does fit nicely. what are you? the court's counsellor. by the way, I chose the new medium. Ok, but i mean... I'm also Jim's lover. And his nanny. Oh, did you know I was in WW2? ... Talk about attention deficit disorder...
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Post by quoodle on Nov 7, 2012 19:31:29 GMT
what are you? the court's counsellor. by the way, I chose the new medium. Ok, but i mean... I'm also Jim's lover. And his nanny. Oh, did you know I was in WW2? . You see, it only takes a little imagination to find a plausible conversation. After all, Annie already noticed she is not injured by swords and she has some kind of relationship with Mr. Eglamore. She also knows Jones is training new mediums. Give the basic facts and annie's visual imagination fills in the extraneous details.
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Post by grahamf on Nov 7, 2012 19:31:30 GMT
is that Egalmore? it looks like the principal except a little younger and not as pale.
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Post by lavkian on Nov 7, 2012 19:49:53 GMT
To a degree it could. If she started out as "I am your guardian, I was Eglamore's before, etc. etc." it could be plausible. After all it IS Jones, and she is quite candid regarding most things unless, I'm sure, there is a really good reason to not state the fact. Who knows, maybe Surma knew Jones' history as the medium prior :] I guess I'm just having a hard time imagining how Jones could've explained her relationship to Eglamore in a way that would have triggered the exact images we're presented with in Annie's mind--and why she would explain it that way. You're right that she can be candid, but I don't think she generally goes out of her way to go into that kind of detail where it is unwarranted and would have a high liklihood of making Annie uncomfortable. (Unless, of course, she's trying to 'assess her character' again). Probably something to do with the unrequited love between Eglamore and Annie's mom.
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Post by ryos on Nov 7, 2012 19:55:44 GMT
Count me in the camp that thinks the wayback montage was for us, not being told directly to Annie that way.
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Post by Eversist on Nov 7, 2012 19:57:40 GMT
Somebody needs to do that out-of-focus eye edit on that second panel (if it hasn't been done already). I'll do it when I get home.
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Post by palevalkyrie on Nov 7, 2012 20:14:28 GMT
You see, it only takes a little imagination to find a plausible conversation. After all, Annie already noticed she is not injured by swords and she has some kind of relationship with Mr. Eglamore. She also knows Jones is training new mediums. Give the basic facts and annie's visual imagination fills in the extraneous details. I don't know...when Annie was prompted to imagine Anja tattooing James and Donny, she came up with this: www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=521Her mental imagery specifically sterilizes (literally!) the affection and friendship out of the situation, even though she knew all three were friends, and two of them married. Even if she knew Jones and Eglamore were friends or whatever, I find it hard to believe she would imagine up the level of affection in the images we've been given without specifically being prompted to do so. Seems more like something Kat would do. Annie, though, I can't see her imagination erring on the side of fluff. Not with the influence we've seen being Anthony Carver's daughter have on other emotional aspects of her life. A further consideration--if she's just being given basic facts and extrapolating the rest, that might mean the pages we've seen didn't actually happen. Like, if for some reason Jones found it necessary to tell Annie, "I brought James to the Court," how specific must she have been for the image we see to be remotely accurate? It could have happened any of a trillion ways and what we're seeing would essentially be Annie's fiction. Like, did she tell Annie, "Oh, and Sam Langdon had an eyepatch, the little rascal" for us to be able to see it? Or does Annie just really enjoy imagining pirates? Or possibly I'm just thinking way too hard.
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Post by atteSmythe on Nov 7, 2012 20:18:00 GMT
I'm so tired of the word "troll" already. Maybe it'll go away in 2013.
I see at least one person beat me to observing that after all this, Annie still hasn't actually asked about the stars in the night sky. Maybe Friday!
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Post by Angry Robot on Nov 7, 2012 21:17:21 GMT
"Click here to learn about Gunnerkrigg Court" is hilarious. I hope Tom can figure out a way to keep these references in the print editions. I've got Volumes 1 and 3, and the page layout doesn't lend itself to footnotes like Jeph puts in the Questionable Content books.
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Post by atteSmythe on Nov 7, 2012 21:43:18 GMT
I half expected the "Click here to learn about Gunnerkrigg Court" to just point back to gunnerkrigg.com
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Post by hajo on Nov 7, 2012 21:44:12 GMT
did she tell Annie the new medium had been decided and if she is it. I guess the decision is to nominate someone else as medium, probably Parley. One reason is, Annie's position between GC and GF currently isn't exactly "neutral". Also, her motivation and discipline has been lacking; and her "you didn't stop me, that's as good as permission" doesn't make matters better ;D
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Post by Gulby on Nov 7, 2012 22:14:17 GMT
I half expected the "Click here to learn about Gunnerkrigg Court" to just point back to gunnerkrigg.comHaha, me too ! Most exactly to page 1.
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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 7, 2012 22:22:13 GMT
Also, I kinda doubt the whole mystery will be cleared. I guess Jones just was... for as long as she remembers, and that would be all. Somehow it doesn't sound to me as a let-down. This is what I've been inclined to believe, ever since we stopped seeing humans. Edit: Also calling it now, next page will be "Tomorrow" with Annie talking to Renard and Kat about Jones without actually revealing what she is.Page after that will be "A Week Later" going back to Jones and the Headmaster preparing to announce the medium. Then, "Years later" with Jones receiving an invitation to George and Smitface's wedding. She pulls the party hat out of a drawer and looks at it with her Jones expression. AND THEN, "Several Years Later" wherein Jones stares at a trollface image macro, unamused. Bonus page is Jones party time, just like Mort party time except Jones puts on some sunglasses as the sun goes supernova. Great call, but you should know to stop when you're still winning.
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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 7, 2012 22:29:37 GMT
did she tell Annie the new medium had been decided and if she is it. I guess the decision is to nominate someone else as medium, probably Parley. One reason is, Annie's position between GC and GF currently isn't exactly "neutral". Also, her motivation and discipline has been lacking; and her "you didn't stop me, that's as good as permission" doesn't make matters better ;D Au contraire. If it is not Annie, I want to hear some serious freaking explanation how on earth is anybody else the clear choice. Everything goes to her side. Especially the fact that the etheric beings, most of them all Coyote, speak to her and refuse to even notice Parley or Smitface. Annie is even naturally neutral, the only one belonging to both camps. Parley is as court as it gets. Smitty, on the other hand, is the most balanced of all, so there's a good call for the transmitty-theory. ;D
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Post by fuzzysocks on Nov 7, 2012 22:38:51 GMT
Man honestly, for me it would be enough if this (what we've seen) is Jones's origin story. She emerged as-is from the magma of our forming planet. Done. You guys are so desperate for Tom to attach some sort of word to what she is. If he just threw out the word "golem", would that suddenly satisfy everyone? Most mythical supernatural beings don't have any more of a specific origin than this. ...The wandering eye. That's what she's called... I'd just like an explanation behind that.
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Post by grahamf on Nov 7, 2012 23:32:42 GMT
So what we got so far:
Jones can tolerate very high temperatures, I'm pretty sure over 3,000F Jones can tolerate very cold temperatures Jones can tolerate very high pressures, such as the bottom of the ocean Jones doesn't need to breath Jones is older than the hills Jones is older than the mountains Jones is older than all life on Earth
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Post by quoodle on Nov 7, 2012 23:45:38 GMT
Jones is older than all life on Earth Except for Jones herself.
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Post by wittgen on Nov 8, 2012 5:48:29 GMT
Are people seriously complaining about the pacing? That's ridiculous. It only feels slow because we're getting three pages a week. When everything is finished, it will read great. Learn some patience.
It's tough because Gunnerkrigg, as an end product, is not serial. But it's being released serially. This causes a disconnect in how you read it. If you can't handle the slowness, archive binge once a year. Seriously. Criticizing the work on the basis of it feeling slow is incredibly short sighted.
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Post by kuruko on Nov 8, 2012 7:14:39 GMT
For those who think Parley is going to be the medium over Annie, think about this, that decision will not go over very well with Coyote and to a lesser degree, ysengrin. I just don't see anyone but Annie getting the medium job eeven at her young age.
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Post by rafk on Nov 8, 2012 7:45:39 GMT
"What about the stars in the night sky?"
"Every planet in the universe has a Jones at the center, waiting to bubble to the surface and observe the first life to arise... if it ever arises".
Good thing Kat isn't there, she'd argue that Coyote said STAR and Jones is on every PLANET.
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Post by rafk on Nov 8, 2012 7:49:56 GMT
For those who think Parley is going to be the medium over Annie, think about this, that decision will not go over very well with Coyote and to a lesser degree, ysengrin. I just don't see anyone but Annie getting the medium job eeven at her young age. I don't think the Court picks a medium to please Coyote let alone Ysengrin, but Parley has been seen to be at least as impulsive as Annie (the coyote's tooth incident, anyone?) and not as perceptive when it comes to what the forest is up to. And let us remember that Coyote suggested that Jones was eager to sell the Court on the advantages of Annie spending a summer in the forest... The next medium is either Annie or someone from outside the Court who we've never met who is intended to be the medium while the schoolkids mature a bit more. But not Parley. Makes no sense apart from swerving the audience.
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Post by smjjames on Nov 8, 2012 9:25:59 GMT
"What about the stars in the night sky?" "Every planet in the universe has a Jones at the center, waiting to bubble to the surface and observe the first life to arise... if it ever arises". Good thing Kat isn't there, she'd argue that Coyote said STAR and Jones is on every PLANET. I like that theory actually. Also, I don't see any logic conflict that kat would do. Plus Coyote could very well be aware of planets around other stars, even if he simply has the idea of it than actual knowledge. Also, there's kind of a flaw with the first life to arise, she was shown waking up during the silurian, which is after the Cambrian and billions of years since the first ur-cells arose. Still, she could have woken up periodically when she sensed there was life on the planet and slept for periods of time until things got interesting.
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Post by czort on Nov 8, 2012 11:05:11 GMT
I don't know if somebody already mentioned it, but I think Jones might have something in common with this page. You know, being an wanderin eye, placing stars and stuff.
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Post by todd on Nov 8, 2012 11:38:48 GMT
I don't think the Court picks a medium to please Coyote let alone Ysengrin, but Parley has been seen to be at least as impulsive as Annie (the coyote's tooth incident, anyone?) and not as perceptive when it comes to what the forest is up to. Not to mention that she's never even feigned interest in being a medium (the excuse she gives to cover up the fact that she's staying because of Smith is that it gets her out of class). Unless her discovery of Jeanne's ghost has made her grow up a bit in her attitude towards the role, of course.
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