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Post by lit on Jun 15, 2012 14:02:50 GMT
Have Zimmy's speech bubbles been subtly pink for the whole chapter?... I'm so confused. >_<
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Post by darlos9d on Jun 15, 2012 14:21:25 GMT
I'm not convinced that Kat is "in the closet," it seems more likely that she is afraid of what people think about her tom-boy-ism and obsession with robots. So she started trying to be more girly thus the pink headband. I know I'm probably wrong but I haven't seen/don't remember anything that gives the impression that Kat is in love with Annie. No, actually that's what I was thinking. At no time in the past has Kat really acted romantically attracted to another female. So yeah, I think it's just her worrying about her image, as opposed to actually being in lesbians with anybody. Regarding this chapter in general: I don't think this was a 100% dream or "all in Kat's head." Nor was Kat necessarily the reason Zimmy is here. I mean, after all, Zimmy traveled into Annie's consciousness and dealt with the weird bone laser and talked to Annie as if she was actually Annie. So, Annie couldn't just be a part of a dream Kat is having or else none of that would have made sense or had a point to it. So, whatever happened involved Kat, Zimmy, and actual Annie, at the very least. And Zimmy did in fact come to help Annie, but was afraid because she knew Kat would be there. I think. That said, I have no idea why this page fades out into a bright light. That definitely does feel like the sign of a dream or vision ending. Well, time to wait till net week.
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Post by diztrakted on Jun 15, 2012 14:23:07 GMT
I suddenly recall all the people supposing that all of this was in Kat's head. It suddenly seems to work. If the whole thing was in Kat's head... then Annie might not be the one unconscious. Maybe it's Kat in the bed. Bleh, this chapter needs a comic that we can be 100% sure is in the real world. This page is mega-cute, but explanation will have to come later, I guess.
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Post by paxjax123 on Jun 15, 2012 14:33:26 GMT
what Gamma why did you steal away Kat's hairband
Also, this page is very adorable. Everyone is adorable. Nice work, girls.
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Post by yarksie on Jun 15, 2012 14:46:25 GMT
I don't think this is a dream. Annie is incapacitated and Zimmy came to help, at the same time we saw that Kat has a Robot Steampunk Angel form in the etheric world and Gamma gets that she is feeling insecure about her sexuality, and helps her in the best way she can? Or she digs the headband. I think that fade to white was them leaving to return to the normal world. Thats what I've figured out so far, that and Annie's is feeling the strain from all the secrets that have come out in the last few chapters.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Jun 15, 2012 15:17:35 GMT
I think you're all reading waaaaay to much into the hairband. Take a look at cells 2 and 3; Gamma clearly needs a hairband much more than Kat does, so she just takes it. (What's Kat going to do, argue? She doesn't really need it, and besides, it's more than a fair trade for helping Annie.)
This is just Tom's way of shaking things up since the last obligatory hairstyle change. I'm sure he's watching the forums explode with theories and laughing. Remember his avatar? Ha Ha! ;D
(By the way, I'm just poking fun -- I agree that there's alot of symbology to the hairband, but I wanted to be a bit goofy.)
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Post by cactusguy on Jun 15, 2012 15:22:58 GMT
My two cents: Kat's been asleep since we got frozen Reynard, Robot, and Shadow, and is about to wake up. This doesn't mean Zimmy and Gamma weren't there, or that the "healing" of Annie didn't occur. We'll soon be treated to Annie resurfacing from her coma, although I'm curious how the violent destruction of space dad bone laser shackles will affect her. Maybe we'll even get insight at last into the heart of Kat's insecurity, should she take heed of Zimmy and Gamma's advice.
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Post by nero on Jun 15, 2012 15:24:36 GMT
Maybe Zimmy is speaking out loud for Gamma. There is still no answer for how Gamma and Zimmy could enter the room through Kat, or exactly why Annie's scar was attached to Zimmy.
My guess is that Kat will wake up, and see that Annie is better. Kat will throw her headband away along with all that awkwardness, and be comfortable being Annie's friend again.
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Post by wombat on Jun 15, 2012 15:29:54 GMT
When I saw this page, my first thought was that the light was because Gamma is divine.
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Post by mcbibble on Jun 15, 2012 15:36:41 GMT
Kat must be having a genuine sexuality crisis, surely. Her fear of touching Annie, her face when she asked her if she was dating jack now, or when Zimmy held Annie's hand; her pigeon wanting so desperately to know what Annie was thinking... Her confusion is real, and Zimmys exit tag signals a gay outcome. Kat needs to stop running from what she's afraid of, and it seems like as much as she's afraid of other peoples ideas, she's afraid of her own feelings too. This is all very ironic, however, as as a robot angel homosexuality isn't even really an issue. Now she's gonna have to worry about the implications of animate/inanimate lovin. Hope someone reminds Annie about chapter 113 of the students handbook... www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=663
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Post by Eversist on Jun 15, 2012 15:42:41 GMT
Zimmy is clearly evolving.
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Post by azure on Jun 15, 2012 16:00:34 GMT
I really hope one question is answered next week instead of raising 10 more ~_~
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Post by Rafael on Jun 15, 2012 16:24:25 GMT
This is such a beautiful page. Zimmy is great when she's not scary, and Gamma is being just angelic there. Doesn't it feel like a final page, though? I think it'd be amazing if the chapter had ended today.
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Post by snuffa on Jun 15, 2012 16:48:49 GMT
What I personally find interesting is that it's not the first occasion in the comic that deliberately stressed the theme of not running/hiding from what makes you scared. This was already one of the main messages of the Smitty/Parley love story arc, and fearlessness was established as one of the defining traits of Annie's character already in the first two pages of the comic ("one day, during a solitary study, I decided to confront the being") and then was repeatedly reiterated in the following chapters: "Schoolyard Myths", "Reynardine", "Not very Scary", you name it.
I guess this theme seems to be very important to Tom, somehow.
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Post by yarksie on Jun 15, 2012 17:09:55 GMT
Kat is likely going through a sexuality crisis or is worried about what her classmates assume about her orientation, reminds me of myself last year. I went through a similar situation.
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Post by Rafael on Jun 15, 2012 17:32:22 GMT
Very astute, snuffa! Hadn't realized how frequent it was until you said it. It might well be the main theme of the comic, and that's awesome.
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Post by yarksie on Jun 15, 2012 17:44:41 GMT
Now that I think about it, you're quite right snuffa. I must do a reread, catch all the details. Maybe this chapter will end with either Zimmy or Kat no longer fearing something, with Zimmy it could be the things she sees, not to sure about Kat, could be a bunch of things.
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 15, 2012 17:57:50 GMT
Have Zimmy's speech bubbles been subtly pink for the whole chapter?... I'm so confused. >_< I think it goes along with the scar and the reddish hair. Tom doesn't change the color hex on his speech bubbles without a reason. Zimmy is clearly evolving. What? ZIMMY is evolving! ... ... ... Congratulations! Your ZIMMY has evolved into COSMIC TERROR!
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 15, 2012 18:24:12 GMT
When I saw this page, my first thought was that the light was because Gamma is divine. The interesting thing about whiteouts is: other than in Dr. Disaster's sim, we saw one here. Have Zimmy's speech bubbles been subtly pink for the whole chapter?... I'm so confused. >_< They both use the same pinkish/purplish. No, actually that's what I was thinking. At no time in the past has Kat really acted romantically attracted to another female. So far, she "acted romantically attracted" only to birds. Which probably was noticed by everyone including laser cows... but excluding anniexkat shippers. ;D Gamma clearly needs a hairband much more than Kat does, so she just takes it. Quite possible too.
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Post by mcbibble on Jun 15, 2012 18:29:19 GMT
You guys need to take off your headbands and stop running.
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Post by Marnath on Jun 15, 2012 19:23:00 GMT
I'm not convinced that Kat is "in the closet," it seems more likely that she is afraid of what people think about her tom-boy-ism and obsession with robots. So she started trying to be more girly thus the pink headband. I know I'm probably wrong but I haven't seen/don't remember anything that gives the impression that Kat is in love with Annie. She could be into girls without being into Annie you know. It's at least possible. Well Gamma taking the insecure-straightness-headband is a good thing, also panel 2 made me shout louder than the day Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 was announced(no I'm not a shipper but seriously, its quite sweet). You don't need to be a shipper, characters in the actual comic believe them to be a couple. The only way it could get more canon is if Tom came right out and declared Zimmy and Gamma a couple. Which I personally believe is what that exchange between Annie and Jack was meant to be.
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Post by blahzor on Jun 15, 2012 19:42:04 GMT
I'm not convinced that Kat is "in the closet," it seems more likely that she is afraid of what people think about her tom-boy-ism and obsession with robots. So she started trying to be more girly thus the pink headband. I know I'm probably wrong but I haven't seen/don't remember anything that gives the impression that Kat is in love with Annie. No, actually that's what I was thinking. At no time in the past has Kat really acted romantically attracted to another female. So yeah, I think it's just her worrying about her image, as opposed to actually being in lesbians with anybody. Regarding this chapter in general: I don't think this was a 100% dream or "all in Kat's head." Nor was Kat necessarily the reason Zimmy is here. I mean, after all, Zimmy traveled into Annie's consciousness and dealt with the weird bone laser and talked to Annie as if she was actually Annie. So, Annie couldn't just be a part of a dream Kat is having or else none of that would have made sense or had a point to it. So, whatever happened involved Kat, Zimmy, and actual Annie, at the very least. And Zimmy did in fact come to help Annie, but was afraid because she knew Kat would be there. I think. That said, I have no idea why this page fades out into a bright light. That definitely does feel like the sign of a dream or vision ending. Well, time to wait till net week. you can act a certain way til you hit enlightenment as most gay people don't realize they are that way (in context to what it actually means) until years into their life
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Post by zoe on Jun 15, 2012 19:57:10 GMT
Gamma's smile in panel 2 = awwwww
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Post by Max on Jun 15, 2012 20:54:13 GMT
I really hope one question is answered next week instead of raising 10 more ~_~ You must be new here.
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Post by snuffa on Jun 15, 2012 20:56:37 GMT
You don't need to be a shipper, characters in the actual comic believe them to be a couple. The only way it could get more canon is if Tom came right out and declared Zimmy and Gamma a couple. Which I personally believe is what that exchange between Annie and Jack was meant to be. I also believe he did just that on Formspring. People who remember better can correct me on this, but i think the question was something like "are Zimmy and Gamma an item?" and the answer was along the lines of "yes, and very much in love".
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Post by Lightice on Jun 15, 2012 21:07:17 GMT
What I personally find interesting is that it's not the first occasion in the comic that deliberately stressed the theme of not running/hiding from what makes you scared. This was already one of the main messages of the Smitty/Parley love story arc, and fearlessness was established as one of the defining traits of Annie's character already in the first two pages of the comic ("one day, during a solitary study, I decided to confront the being") and then was repeatedly reiterated in the following chapters: "Schoolyard Myths", "Reynardine", "Not very Scary", you name it. A good observation. Now that I think of it, I feel that it could be the main theme of the comic, along with borders and distinctions, which also has been heavily present in the story; Court and Forest, Human vs. Animal vs. God vs. Machine, life vs. death, magic vs. science, etc. etc. And they fit together, since confronting fears always means crossing borders in some sense or another. So far, she "acted romantically attracted" only to birds. Which probably was noticed by everyone including laser cows... but excluding anniexkat shippers. ;D Nah, they noticed, too. They concluded that since "bird" is British slang for ladies, it's clearly foreshadowing.
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Post by myzelf on Jun 15, 2012 22:09:05 GMT
So... I still have no idea what the crap has been going on.
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Post by wanderer on Jun 15, 2012 22:25:30 GMT
So... I still have no idea what the crap has been going on. Get used to it. That's the standard around here.
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Post by Spike on Jun 15, 2012 23:40:56 GMT
...I'm in love with Gamma.
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Post by themollyz on Jun 16, 2012 1:54:19 GMT
Why do I feel that Zimmy in the Headband of +5 Straightness would be the cutest/most horrifying thing in the world? Also, for some reason, the seventh panel is my favorite.
I can't wait to see what lack of explanation we get for all of the strangeness Monday! =D
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