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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on May 14, 2012 9:47:20 GMT
Jones may not be a reincarnation (because the spirit hasn't passed on yet), but she seems a lot like the young Jeanne in this page (blonde girl falling for dashing Green Man). I know this can't be right, but there must be a connection!
I get the sense City Face is presenting a mixture of his thoughts and Kat's thoughts in his speech.
I just don't know. This chapter is crazy.
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Post by paxjax123 on May 14, 2012 10:55:23 GMT
So confused.
(So confused.)
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Post by marv on May 14, 2012 11:04:33 GMT
I gave up on trying to understand this chapter weeks ago. Looks like that was a good move.
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Post by Lightice on May 14, 2012 11:18:21 GMT
Anyone else noticed that the red in Zimmy's hair dissappeared, in the middle of all this excitement? I'm still confused over what that's supposed to symbolize, since it doesn't seem that Zimmy is going to have one of her episodes any time soon...
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Post by Cleo on May 14, 2012 11:58:05 GMT
I wonder if Jones being nude has anything to do with how she might be in the etherium? Or perhaps how she is when she's in her 'natural' state. I certainly don't think it's got anything to do with romantic feelings, I think we're getting Zimmy's interpretation of what she's seeing.
Also, the mask... something to do with supressing emotions? Particularly romantic ones that could lead to an early death (and vulnerability). First the mask is smiling and then nuetral. Jones seems to know much about nuetrality, as well as what Ysengrin was encouraging.
I'm at a complete and wonderful loss over this chapter. Amazing.
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Post by aaroncampbell on May 14, 2012 11:58:46 GMT
Since I can't wrap my mind around anything else yet, I'd just like to observe that the pigeon's expressions, posture, and voice-font are all quite amusing on this page.
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Post by capitanhappyface on May 14, 2012 12:22:28 GMT
new guy here:
i really think than you are all looking this backward, this isn't a memory of annie, it is all kat mind, just think about it, since Annie went to the forest, kat has become more and more insecure about herself and annie, and this forest-illusion-thing, seem represent everything that reinforce that insecurity, the fear to annie having a boyfriend, jealousy of the forest and jones, and more importantly the mask… I mean we know that annie is more or less a person with a turmoil of emotion, but from an inside perspective, she look really cold and stoic, and to Kat a good symbol of that will be a unexpressive mask now before someone argues that Kat can’t see the vision of the forest, remember that she can’t see the pigeon either, and the vision only star to become more complex when Zimmie start to comment what she was seeing there. My theory is that kat is trapped in some etheric dream, and the star of this chapter when the scar appear in the cheek of Zimmie it was Annie pressuring her to help kat
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Post by tigerising on May 14, 2012 12:42:21 GMT
Jones totally killed the mood. I think Kamlen was trying to find out annie's secret via flirting, and jones was like, annie--no. But I'll doubt we'll ever find out why kat has a bird on her head. Chalk it up to Zimmy-ness.
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Post by TBeholder on May 14, 2012 13:18:57 GMT
It seems like a visual representation of an internal conflict. "Kamlen or Jonesy"? ;D Sorry. I also see that in almost thirty chapters tom is still able to start not just one ship but two. So, all this time the shippers were wrong and it's actually Jones that Annie likes? I suspect Tom just made jolly fools of everyone who imagined up ship-teasing in convoluted ways here. Now THAT is how gloriously he can do ship-teasing. ;D GC forums are like UPS. If it fits, it ships, anywhere, anytime. More like "sometimes, fits, sometimes, ships"... My initial reaction was that there's an important distinction whether Jones is handing her a mask off of her own face, or just some mask. Wait, a mask and golden hair and skin? Reminds me of something... Divine. I suspect there WAS something with Kamlen, or at least Annie would have subconsciously liked there to be. There was Jeanne's dumped memory. And 'Grin explained about Jones. Memories can get a little blurred together, especially in a dream. Zimmy presumably doesn't know about either event, so she takes it too directly and remains puzzled. The binding on her wrist disappears after Jones gives her the mask. ...and Coyote's binding vanished after Jones embraced her and gave her the mask / after Annie returned to the Court. Hmm?
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Post by legion on May 14, 2012 13:32:43 GMT
Haha, this is like Inception except the dream is actually confusing and seemingly nonsensical like real dreams.
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Post by maximkat on May 14, 2012 13:39:33 GMT
I stand by my theory that it's all Kat's nightmare who is afraid that Annie is moving away from her (figuratively)
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Post by maximkat on May 14, 2012 13:40:53 GMT
Woah, wait, I just noticed. Is Jones naked here?
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Post by rosefae on May 14, 2012 16:01:38 GMT
"Ysengrin explained what she is to me." We still haven't had an explanation for that yet, have we?
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Post by crank on May 14, 2012 16:10:58 GMT
I was thinking that this is Annie's subconscious representation of the events of the summer (spending time in the forest, getting to know forest creatures, using her training as a medium to remain impartial, and then loosing the wrist binding when she comes back to the court). I don't know why this would suddenly cause her to pass out and not wake up again, but I guess we'll discover that soon??
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Post by Morpheus on May 14, 2012 16:37:30 GMT
I have no odds ud thisted gas beskæftigelse mentioned het, bit km Annie's vakt seende to ve a hold drak longer in thisted vision Ryan in reality. (Not Them Annie lyinh in rye hospital, showet vakt se Han't der tyr length og, bug rye Annie from chapter 30/31)
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Post by atteSmythe on May 14, 2012 16:59:22 GMT
My initial reaction was that there's an important distinction whether Jones is handing her a mask off of her own face, or just some mask. The handmovements are vague enough for it not to be clear, but it looks like Jones might be just handing her some mask, rather than pulling it off her own face. Visually, at first the elf is courting Annie, until Jones seems to pull her towards herself, at which point the elves are disappointed and leave. Maybe Annie was entertaining an idea of staying in the forest permanently? And Jones actually popped in to check on her and reminded her of her life back at the court. The mask has a relaxed, calm look on but is completely blank and divided in the middle. Maybe a visual representation of the medium's role, Annie must hide her true face behind a blank facade to maintain the neutrality required for a medium. Jones, being her mediuming mentor, would be just the person to remind her of that. Also, Kat doesn't catch Zimmy reading her thoughts. And she came to the Kamlen conclusion too. i really think than you are all looking this backward, this isn't a memory of annie, it is all kat mind, just think about it, since Annie went to the forest, kat has become more and more insecure about herself and annie, and this forest-illusion-thing, seem represent everything that reinforce that insecurity, the fear to annie having a boyfriend, jealousy of the forest and jones, and more importantly the mask… I mean we know that annie is more or less a person with a turmoil of emotion, but from an inside perspective, she look really cold and stoic, and to Kat a good symbol of that will be a unexpressive mask now before someone argues that Kat can’t see the vision of the forest, remember that she can’t see the pigeon either, and the vision only star to become more complex when Zimmie start to comment what she was seeing there. My theory is that kat is trapped in some etheric dream, and the star of this chapter when the scar appear in the cheek of Zimmie it was Annie pressuring her to help kat These. Together, these. The symbolism is there, but it's Kat's. Kat is the one that needs help. I suspect Annie is fine, and her in the hospital room is further dream-symbolism. The aspects that are missing (notably the scar) are things Kat doesn't know about. If that's true (big IF!), why/how is Kat, who we've never seen have any particular etheric affinity (aptitude, maybe, but not affinity IMO) stuck here? Loving this chapter.
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Post by horerczy on May 14, 2012 17:27:56 GMT
If I interpriet this comic correctly then it means that Annie prefers hair that goes down to hair that goes up.
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Post by FlyingMug on May 14, 2012 17:34:59 GMT
You gotta hang around here a little longer, amigo. GC forums are like UPS. If it fits, it ships, anywhere, anytime. Today's comic seriously derails my Jones/Boxbot otp though. Really, Antimony, naked Jones? What next? Muscle Reynardine?
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Post by myzelf on May 14, 2012 18:05:25 GMT
Huuuuuuuuuuuh. I got nothin'.
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Post by goldenknots on May 14, 2012 18:14:55 GMT
I'm not seeing any rounded corners on any of the panels, so I'm voting illusion at the very most, not dream or flashback.
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Post by porcupineadvocate on May 14, 2012 19:04:29 GMT
If it's Kat's own subconscious, why does the entire forest exchange and the hospital room pigeon-hat appear to be beyond her perception?
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Post by kokomuff on May 14, 2012 19:13:35 GMT
just wanted to say, Robot and Shadow huggin' in the last panel. At least THAT'S still going strong through this, whatever it is.
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Post by paxjax123 on May 14, 2012 19:18:39 GMT
I have no odds ud thisted gas beskæftigelse mentioned het, bit km Annie's vakt seende to ve a hold drak longer in thisted vision Ryan in reality. (Not Them Annie lyinh in rye hospital, showet vakt se Han't der tyr length og, bug rye Annie from chapter 30/31) I think somebody vandalized your words.
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Post by atteSmythe on May 14, 2012 20:10:54 GMT
If it's Kat's own subconscious, why does the entire forest exchange and the hospital room pigeon-hat appear to be beyond her perception? Zimmy lost perception of herself. Annie seems unaware of her scar. And Kat's at a disadvantage to begin with, apparently unable to project into the ether at all (as suggested during rooftop antics). She has some aptitude (could understand the etheric coding of the robots), but no affinity (can't project herself, possibly can't perceive the ether) Anyway, just how it appears to me. It's inevitably wrong, put passes my plausibility check.
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Post by Starrylight on May 14, 2012 20:41:17 GMT
I notice that Annie doesn't have the wristlet anymore in that second-to-last panel. More symbolism?
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Post by Per on May 14, 2012 20:41:47 GMT
It seems like a visual representation of an internal conflict. My random take on it: The forest folk are naturally flighty, Annie knows it's not a good idea to get in too deep, and either draws inspiration from Jones or gets actual assistance from Jones in adopting a demeanour which turns the forest folk off on this particular level. GC forums are like UPS. If it fits, it ships, anywhere, anytime. Actually, for a good while it was voluntarily suppressed, since it had kept drifting into sexual imagery, and Tom implied that shutting down the forum was a preferred alternative to that.
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Post by wanderer on May 14, 2012 20:50:08 GMT
I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON.
That is all.
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Post by dante on May 14, 2012 20:54:35 GMT
Today's comic seriously derails my Jones/Boxbot otp though. Really, Antimony, naked Jones? What next? Muscle Reynardine? She's Jonesing for it.
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Post by Spike on May 14, 2012 20:54:39 GMT
wat.
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Post by djublonskopf on May 14, 2012 21:00:55 GMT
One thing, at least, seems clear: Kat doesn't realize that Zimmy is reading Kat's thoughts. Kat thinks "Kamlen", and when Zimmy says "Kamlen" back (seemingly in reaction), Kat's only thought is that Zimmy must be reading the name out of Annie's thoughts.
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