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Post by Georgie L on Oct 6, 2011 10:26:43 GMT
I mean Zimmy not only already has a girlfriend but she seems to hate every single other person in the world. Everything else you said I agree with but.. Zimmy has a girlfriend? Since when? She has a friend that is a girl, and is close with, but I've never seen a hint of girlfriend there. I see Gamma as a surrogate sister to Zimmy.
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Post by mcmuffinking on Oct 6, 2011 10:51:05 GMT
I think the Word of Tom is that they are a couple BUT I also don't think it is so clear cut
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Post by thatguywhodraws on Oct 6, 2011 11:03:32 GMT
I mean Zimmy not only already has a girlfriend but she seems to hate every single other person in the world. Everything else you said I agree with but.. Zimmy has a girlfriend? Since when? She has a friend that is a girl, and is close with, but I've never seen a hint of girlfriend there. I see Gamma as a surrogate sister to Zimmy. Even Annie was saying they're an item within this very chapter
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Post by mikeymikemikey on Oct 6, 2011 12:19:35 GMT
I mean Zimmy not only already has a girlfriend but she seems to hate every single other person in the world. Everything else you said I agree with but.. Zimmy has a girlfriend? Since when? She has a friend that is a girl, and is close with, but I've never seen a hint of girlfriend there. I see Gamma as a surrogate sister to Zimmy. Er, hate to break it to you, man, but even most of us guys who don't really ship anything GC won't argue with that ship. Especially not when Tom has explicitly pointed it out on both Formspring and recently in this very chapter.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 6, 2011 16:20:20 GMT
Maybe he doesn't need to sleep anymore, like Zimmy? At least it's nothing compared to that uptime. So he already have some goodness from his misadventure. Also, what Jack did all this time? Played with her blinker? Or just sat there and watched the sleeping beauty? Oh sorry, I meant the people shipping AnniexJack will be continuing onwards. My understanding of shipping is that it occurs in the face of logic and evidence, so the metaphoric iceberg that is Jack's feelings for Zimmy may not actually sink this little Titanic. Exhibit A: Well, the very nature of that ship... ;D Either way, any possible feelings are complicated and hopelessly entangled - neither of these two seem to be able to sort through. The arguments that turn into serious business. Like that guy here who got banned (still grumpy after having shot a cluster stake-launcher too late) Arr, on 'ere there lanes not many o' war-shippers be appearin', let alone 'em slashers. And apparently not because of carpet bombing. Oh, and thanks to lady Shinga's work, one more term is "those fans". Arguments like that ruined the Harry Potter and Avatar: The Last Airbender forums for me. So... Maybe it's a step up? it's too bad the author didn't join the Navy, he'd be an admiral right now because he's so good at sinking ships That's what the admiral WANTS us to think! Zimmy not only already has a girlfriend but she seems to hate every single other person in the world. Zimmy just knows she can't keep close anyone who won't hold their own against her nightmares and is (understandably) grumpy. She quickly became more friendly to Annie, especially since this allows Gamma some rest. If one day Jack will be strong enough for this... their presence in it reminds me of the presence of Tristram and Iseult in the legends of King Arthur or Tom Bombadil in "The Lord of the Rings" - an originally independent story that was pulled into a larger story, but never quite settles into it. To me, this more reminds most good settings like Slayers or Forgotten Realms - constant reminders that the rest of their world still exists and somehow manages to live without rotating around the protagonists.
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Post by warrl on Oct 6, 2011 20:33:18 GMT
their presence in it reminds me of the presence of Tristram and Iseult in the legends of King Arthur or Tom Bombadil in "The Lord of the Rings" - an originally independent story that was pulled into a larger story, but never quite settles into it. Tom Bombadil and his lady were two of my favorite characters in LotR. I hadn't encountered Tristram and Iseult in the legends of King Arthur. They really don't belong there. It would be like reading a history of the American Revolution and having Charles Lindberg and Amelia Earhart show up. Historically (or to the extent that he might actually be a historical figure), Arthur represents the likely period of ascendancy of Celtic Britain, after the Romans left but before the Saxons arrived. His realm apparently included most of the western half of Britain plus pieces of Wales and perhaps a bit of southwestern Scotland. Tristram and Iseult were late in the history of Celtic Kernow, after the Saxons had already taken over most of Britain. The mythological King Arthur, as opposed to the possibly-historical one, was an Anglo-Saxon king and would have lived (if he had ever actually existed) several hundred years after Tristram and Isolde. The military technology he had available to him was much superior; the Kernow of Tristram's time could not have maintained its independence against mythological-Arthurian England, let alone been able to take or hold lands in Brittany.
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Post by todd on Oct 6, 2011 22:18:44 GMT
The mythological King Arthur, as opposed to the possibly-historical one, was an Anglo-Saxon king and would have lived (if he had ever actually existed) several hundred years after Tristram and Isolde. The military technology he had available to him was much superior; the Kernow of Tristram's time could not have maintained its independence against mythological-Arthurian England, let alone been able to take or hold lands in Brittany. In the medieval romances, Arthur is still located in the late 5th century (all the way down to Malory, who has Galahad sit in the Siege Perilous and the Quest for the Holy Grail begin, 454 years after the Crucifixion - i.e., around A.D. 485), so "Anglo-Saxon" isn't the right word for him. The chief exception is a modern work, T. H. White's "The Once and Future King", which places Arthur in an alternate medieval England where Uther Pendragon, rather than William the Conqueror, won the Battle of Hastings. (I still suspect that the real reason why Zimmy and Gamma are in the webcomic is that Tom wanted to write about them and couldn't do two webcomics at once.)
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Post by warrl on Oct 7, 2011 2:46:26 GMT
The mythological King Arthur, as opposed to the possibly-historical one, was an Anglo-Saxon king and would have lived (if he had ever actually existed) several hundred years after Tristram and Isolde. The military technology he had available to him was much superior; the Kernow of Tristram's time could not have maintained its independence against mythological-Arthurian England, let alone been able to take or hold lands in Brittany. In the medieval romances, Arthur is still located in the late 5th century (all the way down to Malory, who has Galahad sit in the Siege Perilous and the Quest for the Holy Grail begin, 454 years after the Crucifixion - i.e., around A.D. 485), so "Anglo-Saxon" isn't the right word for him. The chief exception is a modern work, T. H. White's "The Once and Future King", which places Arthur in an alternate medieval England where Uther Pendragon, rather than William the Conqueror, won the Battle of Hastings. You might be right in terms of the alleged date, but there could not have been Knights of the Round Table before there were Knights, and there really weren't any Knights (and certainly no Knights engaging in jousts or mounted melee combat) before the introduction of the stirrup. That happened well after the Anglo-Saxons took over.
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Post by todd on Oct 7, 2011 10:40:54 GMT
You might be right in terms of the alleged date, but there could not have been Knights of the Round Table before there were Knights, and there really weren't any Knights (and certainly no Knights engaging in jousts or mounted melee combat) before the introduction of the stirrup. That happened well after the Anglo-Saxons took over. Yes, but that stemmed from the way people in the Middle Ages thought about history. They believed that the world was created with a full-blown medieval civilization, which is why Arthur and his contemporaries were portrayed as knights in armor living in stone castles. Medieval writers and artists treated biblical and classical figures the same way; hence, there are cases of stained-glass windows depicting the duel between David and Goliath with Goliath dressed up as a 14th century knight rather than an ancient Philistine warrior.
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