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Post by binarytears on Jan 14, 2011 13:50:50 GMT
Further to that worry about Reynard, lets hope if there's to be any tooth-shenanigans, then Kat just happens to be retrieving her homework book at the critical moment to save the day.
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 13:52:27 GMT
"Do not be alarmed, the limb-chopping bracelet is a courtesy gesture we extend to all our guests." I don't think Coyote gives a damn about other forest creatures getting jealous about his gift of a tooth. Note how pleased he is to hear it's still in her room. It seems the tooth features in some plan of his. In which case having Annie keep her mouth shut would be more about Coyote denying he had anything to do with what's going to happen in the Court with his tooth. Remote control tooth? Something to do with Reynard? Rescuing him? Or.... Oh. This is not a nice idea. If Reynard dies in the Court, does that void Coyote's promise to leave the Court alone? Maybe Coyote left off saying "If you tell anyone in the forest _or_the_court_ ..." because in his plan there won't be any court soon? Meanwhile, now's a perfect (stopped)time to find out what colour underwear Jones is wearing. One should never lose sight of ultimate priorities. I think if Coyote's tooth kills Reynard, Coyote is already breaking his promise to leave the court alone.
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 13:58:17 GMT
Friday's Scorecard: I was right about time stopping I was wrong about it not being due to Coyote I was right about the forest not being as safe as Annie thought I was wrong about Surma appearing in spirit form So, 50/50.... I guess that's not too bad. Wild guess for next week: Coyote's next words are "Nah, I'm kidding... if you need the tooth while you're here, that bind will call it to your hand. Use it to protect yourself" Odds of me being right? Don't bet the rent money!
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 14, 2011 14:40:31 GMT
On the other hand, if the people of the Forest lose confidence in Coyote's ability to defend them from the Court Uh, they hardly are TV-zombies scared by a whole army of glowworms!!. Uh. Man Annie is really getting jerked around today. Like a pawn on a chessboard, no? More of pinball or rather Queen's Crocket... Meanwhile, now's a perfect (stopped)time to find out what colour underwear Jones is wearing. One should never lose sight of ultimate priorities. Reynardine. Bag. I doubt it's high on Annie's list. ;D "I swear on my right hand..." Wait a moment, forget that silly phrase. At least, not "this rose ring"... I suddenly remember this page. Could this be just an illusion? It could... See also this one. Coyote's next words are "Nah, I'm kidding... if you need the tooth while you're here, that bind will call it to your hand. Use it to protect yourself" Odds of me being right? Don't bet the rent money! Zero. - Coyote guaranteed safety and probably can ensure it.
- It's time and past time for an object lesson and Coyote just saw that Annie ignored any more remote consequences.
- In the Wood Annie is likely to get good lesson, but there's no reason why none of them will be given the hard way.
I mean, it's too in character to dismiss.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Jan 14, 2011 14:53:18 GMT
Welll now we know for sure what the blue borders are for. PUPIL-LESS COYOTE IS SCARY Agreed! Seeing his eye socket glowing like that as he's putting his bind on Annie freaked me out a bit. I was immediately reminded of this: www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=560Coyote's eye is on Annie (though not on her wrist) and he's in the background, sans pupil. I wonder if this was a premonition?
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Post by q3 on Jan 14, 2011 15:08:48 GMT
Don't worry, Annie! Even if you do slip up and tell someone about the tooth, Coyote would be happy to give you a replacement evil hand!
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Post by Quizzie on Jan 14, 2011 15:10:56 GMT
I think Rey won't be happy about all this... And I can't help the feeling that we will soon see a fight between Coyote and Reynardine. Don't worry, Annie! Even if you do slip up and tell someone about the tooth, Coyote would be happy to give you a replacement evil hand! That might be interesting... Annie and her tree hand returns to school... Creepy?
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 15:12:53 GMT
TBeholder, I agree except... shouldn't Coyote's guarantee of safety include not getting her hand snipped off?
"Her hand got snipped off for her own good, honest!"
But yeah, the threat of getting her hand cut off may help her focus better.
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Post by hargharg on Jan 14, 2011 15:13:38 GMT
Friday's Scorecard: I was right about time stopping I was wrong about it not being due to Coyote I was right about the forest not being as safe as Annie thought I was wrong about Surma appearing in spirit form So, 50/50.... I guess that's not too bad. Wild guess for next week: Coyote's next words are "Nah, I'm kidding... if you need the tooth while you're here, that bind will call it to your hand. Use it to protect yourself" Odds of me being right? Don't bet the rent money! Good idea, it would have nice symmetry with Annie's blinker stone.
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 15:13:38 GMT
Don't worry, Annie! Even if you do slip up and tell someone about the tooth, Coyote would be happy to give you a replacement evil hand! How about a chainsaw after her hand turns evil?
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Post by zylonbane on Jan 14, 2011 15:19:27 GMT
I can't imagine why Coyote would think Annie can't be trusted to keep a secret.
Oh, wait...
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 15:19:42 GMT
I just saw something like this on a documentary about the Masons. The point of the secret handshake, and keeping it a secret, is not about the handshake itself. It's to prove how reliable you are. If you can keep even a silly unimportant secret, you can be trusted with more important secrets.
Maybe Coyote is teaching Annie how to be more reliable. Maybe the secret of the tooth isn't as important as being able to keep the secret of the tooth.
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Post by zylonbane on Jan 14, 2011 15:22:44 GMT
Maybe Coyote is teaching Annie how to be more reliable. Maybe the secret of the tooth isn't as important as being able to keep the secret of the tooth. Threatening to chop somebody's hand off if they reveal a secret is the exact opposite of testing their character.
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 15:23:08 GMT
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 15:23:56 GMT
Maybe Coyote is teaching Annie how to be more reliable. Maybe the secret of the tooth isn't as important as being able to keep the secret of the tooth. Threatening to chop somebody's hand off if they reveal a secret is the exact opposite of testing their character. Yeah, its more like threatening a child with a spanking....but at some point, the child learns to behave without the threat of a spanking. Maybe Coyote doesn't believe Annie is ready to be trusted to behave yet. I'm not sure about this, it doesn't seem very Coyote-ish.
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Post by paxjax123 on Jan 14, 2011 15:25:55 GMT
Coyote: I've warned you, child. Don't harm yourself. Time: *unfreezes* Jones: ~ime. Now then... *looks at her* Is there an issue? Antimony: .__.' Jones: Very well. It would be best if you came with me. Coyote: *eeeeeviiil eyees* Jones: I told you I could take her if I wished. *SUDDEN ARRAY OF PARTY HAT POWER*
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Post by 0o0f on Jan 14, 2011 15:56:52 GMT
Now she will think twice before talking about that, I guess... but at some point she might slip after all (or have a reason to talk about the tooth). Ouch.
Also Annie's haircolor looks pretty good against the background.
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 16:03:37 GMT
"Coyote is very fond of you."So if Coyote is no liar, and he honestly seems quite fond of Annie... why would he threaten to cut off her hand? Why not just take BACK the knife if it will cause such problems? This has to be some kind of learning experience for Annie. Chances are it won't actually cut off her hand but really sting if she mentions the tooth. She can't complain because she was told not to do that. Maybe the next sting is worse and the one after that ACTUALLY cuts off her hand... If she hasn't learned to control herself before that point, she should just return to the court and give up learning to be a medium.
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Post by 0o0f on Jan 14, 2011 16:14:06 GMT
Coyote's special way of showing that he likes her? Seriously though, it must be very important for him that she doesn't talk about it. Goodness knows why though. Or maybe he does want to give her an evil hand, and just needs an excuse to. So he threatens to snip her hand off if she doesn't keep a secret, expecting her to not keep it... Okay, that's a little contrived.
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Post by blulink on Jan 14, 2011 16:15:12 GMT
One thing is for sure: Coyote just revealed that he has a hidden agenda. And he is showing who's boss. I think that says it all other than that Coyote is a creature of many (creepy) Depths.
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Post by stephen on Jan 14, 2011 16:21:02 GMT
But jayne: Coyote doesn't lie. If he says it's gonna cut off her hand if she leaks word about the sword, that is exactly what it's going to do. Coyote's status as someone who doesn't lie makes him very, very effective at threatening people: everyone knows that if he goes so far as to threaten someone, there is no chance of it being an empty threat.
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Post by grinningcat on Jan 14, 2011 16:24:45 GMT
Note how he very specifically says "In the forest". He may be trying to teach Annie about loopholes.
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Post by cu on Jan 14, 2011 16:25:34 GMT
Look at this self-portrait Tom drew. What was on his mind that day, I wonder. Look at the date and consider the fact that he is some weeks ahead in the comic. Does he know something we don't?
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Post by King Mir on Jan 14, 2011 16:29:43 GMT
A reminder to keep secrets. That's a curious priority for Coyote. "Coyote is very fond of you."So if Coyote is no liar, and he honestly seems quite fond of Annie... why would he threaten to cut off her hand? Why not just take BACK the knife if it will cause such problems? This has to be some kind of learning experience for Annie. Chances are it won't actually cut off her hand but really sting if she mentions the tooth. She can't complain because she was told not to do that. Maybe the next sting is worse and the one after that ACTUALLY cuts off her hand... If she hasn't learned to control herself before that point, she should just return to the court and give up learning to be a medium. That would make what Coyote is saying now a lie.
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 16:34:52 GMT
A reminder to keep secrets. That's a curious priority for Coyote. "Coyote is very fond of you."So if Coyote is no liar, and he honestly seems quite fond of Annie... why would he threaten to cut off her hand? Why not just take BACK the knife if it will cause such problems? This has to be some kind of learning experience for Annie. Chances are it won't actually cut off her hand but really sting if she mentions the tooth. She can't complain because she was told not to do that. Maybe the next sting is worse and the one after that ACTUALLY cuts off her hand... If she hasn't learned to control herself before that point, she should just return to the court and give up learning to be a medium. That would make what Coyote is saying now a lie. Hmmm... good point... harsh first lesson if she screws up!
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Post by scyllarus on Jan 14, 2011 16:43:58 GMT
i was definitely right about the forest not being nearly as safe as it seemed. however...the bind directly contradicts coyote's promise that no harm would come to annie. www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=287no harm. :/ while he doesn't exactly say "i will not harm you," no harm is no harm, regardless of source. but if coyote is no liar...then either he lied about no harm coming to her (uh oh) or else he lied about the bind. or... the only other thing i can think of that might make both of them true is that the bind will indeed snap annie's hand off...either etherically (that's technically no physical harm) or else temporarily (if it does, when she leaves coyote will simply stick it back on, so no harm done). or perhaps she'll just believe that her hand got snapped off? hmm...
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Post by qmarx on Jan 14, 2011 16:49:18 GMT
What is Coyote up to? Why doesn't he want the forest to know about the tooth? Because they can't handle the tooth.
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 16:49:57 GMT
i was definitely right about the forest not being nearly as safe as it seemed. however...the bind directly contradicts coyote's promise that no harm would come to annie. www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=287no harm. :/ while he doesn't exactly say "i will not harm you," no harm is no harm, regardless of source. but if coyote is no liar...then either he lied about no harm coming to her (uh oh) or else he lied about the bind. or... the only other thing i can think of that might make both of them true is that the bind will indeed snap annie's hand off...either etherically (that's technically no physical harm) or else temporarily (if it does, when she leaves coyote will simply stick it back on, so no harm done). or perhaps she'll just believe that her hand got snapped off? hmm... AHA! That works! If she screws up, blam, her hand falls to the ground and she's scared silly! Then Coyote, who can juggle his eyeballs, picks up the fallen hand and puts it back where it was! "Are you going to tell secrets again?"
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Post by jayne on Jan 14, 2011 16:50:43 GMT
What is Coyote up to? Why doesn't he want the forest to know about the tooth? Because they can't handle the tooth. BAHA!! Okay that actually made me laugh out loud!
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Post by 0o0f on Jan 14, 2011 17:03:03 GMT
no harm. :/ while he doesn't exactly say "i will not harm you," no harm is no harm, regardless of source. but if coyote is no liar...then either he lied about no harm coming to her (uh oh) or else he lied about the bind. or... Maybe the hand will fall off once she leaves the forest? Then that's technically not a lie.
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