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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 18, 2010 22:02:11 GMT
From formspring:Is the white space between the panels supposed to indicate that this flashback is somehow different from previous Good Hope flashbacks? It's just white space
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Post by ettu on Dec 18, 2010 22:18:05 GMT
Anthony doesn't believe in mag----excuse me, etheric sciences.
Renard = Etheric being.
Anthony + Renard + Science + Etheric Being = Disdain, as perceived, maybe? He could have just been....not taking Renard seriously because he doesn't treat the whole Ether business seriously, and everything.
The fact that he got the girl and has a permanent scowl probably didn't help, either.
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Post by theweatherman on Dec 18, 2010 22:54:09 GMT
Well, this is suprising.
Guess Anthony wasn't as much of a douchebag as we all thought? Still, he might have cared for his wife alot but he did still leave Annie alone in the one time she needs a father most, guess we need more info.
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Post by Tanya on Dec 19, 2010 1:58:49 GMT
Annie's reflection in the floor of panel 6 is definitely Surma. From the height, to the more flowing dress, to the way the hair curls at the bottom. wow. Thank you for pointing this out. Tom's genius shows in details like this.
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Post by Chromeleon on Dec 19, 2010 2:15:51 GMT
Something about her eyes in panel four reminds me of something... (idea mine, edit courtesy of my girlfriend)
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Post by Refugee on Dec 19, 2010 5:36:59 GMT
I just realized: frames 2-4 remind me of Lilo of Lilo and Stitch. It only reminds me; the resemblance is not strong. On the other hand, On Formspring, Tom is non-committal on the claim that Annie's reflection in the floor is Surma. "Cools." At my first glance, I thought, "Firehead!"
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Post by paxjax123 on Dec 19, 2010 14:49:08 GMT
Something about her eyes in panel four reminds me of something... (idea mine, edit courtesy of my girlfriend)IT KEEPS HAPPENING
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Post by kalechibki on Dec 19, 2010 15:23:12 GMT
Guess Anthony wasn't as much of a douchebag as we all thought? Still, he might have cared for his wife alot but he did still leave Annie alone in the one time she needs a father most, guess we need more info. But we are also missing two weeks of time. When Annie was relaying to Kat the time before she came to the court, she said her mother had died a month earlier and yet just pages before we find out that she had only been there for two weeks. So, other than preparing for a funeral (I'm assuming), we don't know what Anthony did with Annie at all. All we know is he didn't show up at the end of the first summer as Annie expected and that he couldn't be contacted (though I am not sure how much they tried). Also in rereading a bit to put this post together, I noticed this. It seems Donald is surprised by the amount Annie is acting like Surma here. So did Donald know about this whole "Surma's essence will be taken in by Annie" or did he not know? Who exactly is the everyone who knew? Also makes me wonder when Surma flaunted authority in such a blatant way, and hope for more tales of Surma and the gang!
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Post by Chrome on Dec 20, 2010 1:29:51 GMT
Donald is Anja's husband. I doubt she could've kept that kind of secret from him. But he's not exactly in the psychic department like Anja or Surma - maybe he couldn't sense the full extent of the shift of life-force between Annie and Surma, and had assumed it wasn't all that much beyond her looks?
Wouldn't surprise me really. Annie's so self-controlled a lot of the time, that it would be easy to assume she has more of her father in her than her mother.
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Post by may on Dec 20, 2010 1:46:15 GMT
i thought that she was taking her temperature!
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Post by jayne on Dec 20, 2010 21:34:02 GMT
I'm just guessing but by the way she carries her books and chews on a pencil, yet hasn't quite grown into her nose... I'd say she's about 8 or 9 (around third grade in America)
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Post by warrl on Dec 25, 2010 7:52:48 GMT
I can't speak for Nikita, but as I said, I've seen this scenario before, in real life, where the dying are calm, and the soon-to-be survivors are freaking. I suspect it has to do with the dying having already accepted the news, to some extent, and knowing that thrashing about will not help those around them. It's their last chance to support those they love. It doesn't even have to go that far. When I was diagnosed with cancer, the hardest part of dealing with it - by far - was giving my lady enough emotional support to keep her from collapsing. And that was with the doctor being extremely confident that we'd caught it early enough to be no big deal. (By the way, I had a bit of surgery about seven years ago to get rid of the cancer and it hasn't returned... so no worries now.)
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Post by spacemilk on Dec 28, 2010 6:45:03 GMT
Spacemilk needs to actually experience the death of a loved one and her own death before she can accurately judge which is easier. Spacemilk's final thoughts: "they were righ......." I don't normally come back and comment on old threads, but since I got a PM about my remark, I figured I would come back and defend myself. Here was the response I gave for the PM I got: So yes. I have had the experience. However, I think Nikita's response was actually a well-measured, well-thought out response (unlike others) to mine: You see, I have experienced the suicide of several friends. I have seen one friend die young and very painfully from AIDS; another from lymphatic cancer. So don't talk to me about "experiences I haven't had". You have no idea what you are talking about. And lastly, jayne? That last sentence about what I would think? That is frankly rude and unnecessary and is so disrespectful to the dead.
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Post by jayne on Dec 28, 2010 12:50:05 GMT
Spacemilk needs to actually experience the death of a loved one and her own death before she can accurately judge which is easier. Spacemilk's final thoughts: "they were righ......." I don't normally come back and comment on old threads, but since I got a PM about my remark, I figured I would come back and defend myself. Here was the response I gave for the PM I got: So yes. I have had the experience. However, I think Nikita's response was actually a well-measured, well-thought out response (unlike others) to mine: You see, I have experienced the suicide of several friends. I have seen one friend die young and very painfully from AIDS; another from lymphatic cancer. So don't talk to me about "experiences I haven't had". You have no idea what you are talking about. And lastly, jayne? That last sentence about what I would think? That is frankly rude and unnecessary and is so disrespectful to the dead. I'm sorry if I've upset you, but your comment upset me. I don't believe it was appropriate for you to criticize others for their experiences at the loss of a loved one. It was unnecessary. Your own experiences do not justify this.
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Post by spacemilk on Jan 3, 2011 15:35:13 GMT
I don't normally come back and comment on old threads, but since I got a PM about my remark, I figured I would come back and defend myself. Here was the response I gave for the PM I got: So yes. I have had the experience. However, I think Nikita's response was actually a well-measured, well-thought out response (unlike others) to mine: You see, I have experienced the suicide of several friends. I have seen one friend die young and very painfully from AIDS; another from lymphatic cancer. So don't talk to me about "experiences I haven't had". You have no idea what you are talking about. And lastly, jayne? That last sentence about what I would think? That is frankly rude and unnecessary and is so disrespectful to the dead. I'm sorry if I've upset you, but your comment upset me. I don't believe it was appropriate for you to criticize others for their experiences at the loss of a loved one. It was unnecessary. Your own experiences do not justify this. This is going to be the end of this discussion here as far as I'm concerned, and I'll continue in PMs, but you have entirely missed the point if you think I'm criticizing anyone's pain. My entire point is that no one should attempt to assign values to their pain versus the pain of others. So blanket statements like "it's far worse to watch someone die than to die yourself" is doing exactly this; it's presumptuous and it is demeaning to those who have those experiences. It's fine to have an opinion about what you think the experience of death will be like versus experiencing the death of loved ones, and conversely I hope it would be fine for me to have my own personal opinion about such things, but to take it so far as to speculate on what I'd think at my death? That is too far, and once again, it's rude. Jayne, I have NO idea where you got the idea that I criticized others for their experiences; as far as I can tell you pulled that out of thin air. Please go back and actually read my posts.
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Post by jayne on Jan 3, 2011 15:52:59 GMT
There is no reason to continue this conversation.
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Post by spacemilk on Jan 3, 2011 15:57:15 GMT
There is no reason to continue this conversation. Ok.
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