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Post by Yin on Jun 19, 2009 7:00:49 GMT
Ah, the sim.Either Jones doesn't like chocolates, or Smitty did something very well.
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Post by shadrach on Jun 19, 2009 7:04:53 GMT
Jones: Master of the burn.
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Post by starburst98 on Jun 19, 2009 7:05:25 GMT
robots can't eat, so she can not enjoy the chocolate. and it's obvious that parley is only hanging in because she get's to hang with the smitster.
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Post by Yin on Jun 19, 2009 7:08:47 GMT
I agree on that last point. Smitty and Parley are in different years already so there's not much point in quitting medium classes if it means she can't get herself all over him.
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Post by eightyfour on Jun 19, 2009 7:16:22 GMT
Okay... it is far too obvious, but it has to be said: Does anybody else remember a white background just like this from where Morpheus explains Neo the Matrix?
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Post by bisected8 on Jun 19, 2009 10:01:17 GMT
Okay... it is far too obvious, but it has to be said: Does anybody else remember a white background just like this from where Morpheus explains Neo the Matrix? I'm quite sure there was a TV and a couch as well...or maybe that was my living room. I need to watch The Matrix again (and pretend there were no sequals).
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Post by enelya on Jun 19, 2009 10:24:37 GMT
If its good that todays page has no reflections, is this because it would show someone up for not having one?
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Post by Mishmash on Jun 19, 2009 10:28:00 GMT
Yes, Parley is a vampire.
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Post by todd on Jun 19, 2009 10:47:47 GMT
If its good that todays page has no reflections, is this because it would show someone up for not having one? When Tom said that, I think he meant that he thought that the reflecting floors on the previous page had distracted too many readers. (Though I shouldn't be surprised, since so many of the comments on past pages have revolved around side-elements - the boy in the assembly whom many readers mistook for Alistair, the two boys overhearing Kat's scream as she first sets eyes on Ketrak, the pop culture references, Robox, etc.) Maybe part of the purpose of the white background is to ensure fewer side-elements to draw the readers' attention away from the story (though it probably leads, instead, to their talking about the white background instead of the conversation - sometimes you just can't win). Parley's probably confirmed our suspicions all the more about why she's continuing to train as a medium (and even her pretext indicates that actually being a medium is low on her priorities). I wonder if there's a hint of envy in her remarks about Annie - not about Annie being the most probable candidate as medium, but that she generally seems to have a privileged status in the eyes of the Court (from Parley's perspective). Back in Chapter Fourteen, when the Headmaster's talking to Annie after Coyote's departure, Parley has a sour look on her face. I suspect she was thinking something along the lines of "That kid causes all this trouble by falling off the bridge, and they're *rewarding* her." (And maybe even, except that would probably be too metafictional, "When you're the main character, you can get away with anything; an extra who'd caused half the amount of trouble she had would be expelled in a hurry.")
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Post by nikita on Jun 19, 2009 11:06:33 GMT
Okay... it is far too obvious, but it has to be said: Does anybody else remember a white background just like this from where Morpheus explains Neo the Matrix? I was immediately reminded of that scene. On the other hand, it's probably a natural choice to show such a room as a white (3d) canvas.
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Post by wanderer on Jun 19, 2009 11:09:54 GMT
To be more precise, Parley, it's obvious that Annie is best suited to the position of medium. She IS a natural medium. However, her choices may factor into this as well, and there's no guarantee she'll decide to take the job. It seems just a little too obvious, and this comic has repeatedly shown us that we should never trust the obvious.
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Post by Per on Jun 19, 2009 11:47:43 GMT
Typical White Room Syndrome, and that's not even from TV Tropes.
Are they planting something? The seeds from Fangs? Simulated nuts?
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Post by penguinfactory on Jun 19, 2009 14:23:07 GMT
Okay... it is far too obvious, but it has to be said: Does anybody else remember a white background just like this from where Morpheus explains Neo the Matrix? "We need Blinker Stones..... lots of them". *SWOOOOSH*
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Post by Goatmon on Jun 19, 2009 16:16:08 GMT
Hahaha, they're eating Dr. Disasters's present.
That's just wonderful.
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Post by Per on Jun 19, 2009 16:46:20 GMT
Oh, they are those chocolates. And the kids are eating them because Jones is a robot (and Gamma's mom). It all makes sense now.
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Post by sandjosieph on Jun 19, 2009 17:02:43 GMT
I wouldn't actually be surprised if on the next page everyone was wearing black and had sunglasses.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Jun 19, 2009 17:17:59 GMT
Nice of Jones to share the chocolates with the kids. I have to wonder though why it is that she still feels compelled to be carrying around those flowers. Maybe the chocolates and flowers are part of the next simulation game and Dr. Disaster was only giving them to Jones as a sort of apology gift to screw around with the medium's minds. I bet the teachers do that all the time at the Court.
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Post by bisected8 on Jun 19, 2009 17:20:02 GMT
I wouldn't actually be surprised if on the next page everyone was wearing black and had sunglasses. Well who's to say Randy wouldn't make the jump from campy 50's sci-fi to dark, brooding 90's sci-fi? ;D
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Post by clementine on Jun 19, 2009 18:29:24 GMT
It took me a minute to figure out the timeline here. (changing for new sim --> Annie and Smitty in the hall on the way to the new sim --> the new sim.) ...It's really obvious now that I've written that out. I have to wonder though why it is that she still feels compelled to be carrying around those flowers. She has a secret passion for gardening Parley, we see you looking at Smitty in the next-to-last panel. And Smitty, we see you giving Parley that wary look in the last.
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Post by Max on Jun 19, 2009 20:17:33 GMT
Parley, you're quickly crossing the line from charming to obnoxious.
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Post by Casey on Jun 19, 2009 20:26:11 GMT
While I don't find her obnoxious, I do notice that in Medium Beginning she was smiling a lot, even while headlocking Smitty, and in this chapter she is all scowls.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jun 19, 2009 22:05:54 GMT
George Lucas did the whole white void room thing in his first film, THX 1138, back when the Wachovskis were in kindergarden.
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Post by todd on Jun 19, 2009 22:18:34 GMT
To be more precise, Parley, it's obvious that Annie is best suited to the position of medium. She IS a natural medium. However, her choices may factor into this as well, and there's no guarantee she'll decide to take the job. It seems just a little too obvious, and this comic has repeatedly shown us that we should never trust the obvious. And it's possible that the Court might end up deciding to pick Smith or Parley for the role, on the grounds that their skills and characterizations are more amusing, while Annie, although extremely effective, has more of an understated, "straight man" tone about her that the faculty finds less entertaining than Smith's "order-out-of-chaos" ability or eyebrows, or Parley's constantly pushing him about.
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Post by mjh on Jun 19, 2009 22:35:29 GMT
Also, Annie might prefer to stay a free agent and not work for the Court. What was the deal with Surma, by the way: did she stop acting as the Court’s medium because of her illness or did she leave Gunnerkrigg Court even earlier and for other reasons? The fact that Coyote didn’t know about Surma’s marriage to Carver or about Annie suggests the latter.
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Post by Casey on Jun 19, 2009 23:04:39 GMT
I believe that Surma left the court because of her illness. And for the record, Parley (who was only 14 or so at the time) knew Annie's mother as "Surma Stibnite", not Carver. Nowhere was it ever stated that Surma and Anthony got married. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but there's no evidence either way.
Edit: My point about Parley's age was that Parley would have been only 3 when Annie was born, and she wasn't born at the Court... therefore there is no possible way that Parley knew of Surma directly, as Surma left GC when Parley was a wee little child. Therefore, if Parley knew Surma as Surma Stibnite, it could only be because that's what people called Surma after she left.
So people at the Court (Anja, Donald, James) knew Surma, knew where she was, knew that she had a child, and yet still Parley was told Surma's name was Surma Stibnite. That tells me that either Surma and Anthony were not married, or Surma chose not to take his last name... I have to acknowledge that possibility I suppose.
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Post by strainofthought on Jun 20, 2009 0:03:26 GMT
Uh, maybe this has been discussed before, but since I haven't seen any reference to it yet: Doesn't the Wood ever provide a medium? Do meetings usually involve one medium serving for both sides or two mediums working with each other?
I concur that Annie's career path is anyone's guess, and I gotta add that even if that wasn't so having more medium-capable people around is a GOOD thing. That's how the Court got itself into this mess, isn't it? And I'd think George and Smitty ought to both be a little interested in training their 'special' abilities as well.
I really like Annie's expression in panel four. Not sure what it means, but I really like it. I feel like Annie could smooth things over with George by confessing that she did not gain control of Renard without major help, and that her invitation to the forest was strongly influenced by her mother's prior service.
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Post by Max on Jun 20, 2009 3:54:55 GMT
I really like Annie's expression in panel four. Not sure what it means, but I really like it. I think her expression mostly conveys annoyance at Parley for complaining, but I think her expression is also slightly hurt. Parley is basically calling Annie the teacher's pet, ignoring the fact that Annie never seeks out attention and is a hard worker.
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Post by cantabile on Jun 20, 2009 4:12:36 GMT
Poor Annie. Nobody likes to be the resented 'smart kid.'
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Post by mjh on Jun 20, 2009 9:43:44 GMT
I believe that Surma left the court because of her illness. And for the record, Parley (who was only 14 or so at the time) knew Annie's mother as "Surma Stibnite", not Carver. Nowhere was it ever stated that Surma and Anthony got married. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but there's no evidence either way. But would Annie bear her father’s name when he wasn’t married to her mother? Maybe it’s possible in the UK, I don’t know. But married or not, my point was that Coyote had no idea there was anything going on between Surma and Carver. When he learned that Surma had a child, he immediately concluded it must be Eglamore’s, so when he had seen Surma for the last time, it must have been before the breakup with James. Surma fell ill after (or when) Annie was born, so I guess she had already left the Court at that time. Although she might have continued to be available whenever the Court needed a medium, only it never happened.
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Post by Yin on Jun 20, 2009 10:24:51 GMT
The child's name is a decision made by the parents, so I don't think the marriage or lack thereof has any bearing on it. Unless there are laws stating so, at which point I leave it for others to debate upon.
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