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Re: [496]Renard looooves humans!
« Reply #30 on Dec 16, 2008, 9:52am »

A theory that's come up in the comments section for this comic posits that in Chapter 3, when Reynardine jumped out of Sivo's body, he actually *meant* to end up in the wolf toy, and the bit about stealing Annie's body was just a ruse. I never thought that theory seemed likely, despite the fact that his behavior toward Annie at all other times ranges from grudging respect to almost paternal protectiveness and that everything we know indicates that he was genuinely very fond of Surma.

But people in the comments have pointed out that Reynardine took notice of Annie's wolf doll when he first met her on the roof, and since at that point no one except him knew that he could possess anything with eyes, jumping to a stuffed animal might have seemed like the perfect escape plan: make everyone think you died in a failed body-snatching attempt, and then run off in a body no one expects you to be in (unfortunately, he didn't anticipate the effect that Annie's ownership of the wolf doll would have).

And that got me to thinking: if he was really planning on snatching Antimony's body and escaping that way, why would he announce it to her ("Yes yes, time for all that later. I DO need your help. In fact, what I need is... YOUR BODY!"), especially when Eglamore had just left the jail cell and was likely to be within earshot? In fact, why not talk a little longer and *then* jump to Antimony's body, waiting until he was sure Eggers was out of range? Unless... he was counting on being overheard and 'thwarted' in his body-stealing attempt! I wouldn't put it past him to be that tricky, if what Coyote says about Reynardine is true.

I don't know if this theory has come up before on the forums, but if it hasn't... what do you think? A viable hypothesis, or the stuff of Wild Speculation? Is it sensible, or am I just up too late?

Edit: Woooops, I just re-read the thread from the previous comic and saw that Rasselas has said this already, although much more concisely than I did.

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Re: [496]Renard looooves humans!
« Reply #31 on Dec 16, 2008, 11:13am »

I think it's a pretty easy bet that Renardine did not know how to body snatch until he fell in love with Surma and intended to use it to obtain a human body to be with her.

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Re: [496]Renard looooves humans!
« Reply #32 on Dec 16, 2008, 9:35pm »

Dec 16, 2008, 11:13am, Jonny Rocks Hard wrote:

I think it's a pretty easy bet that Renardine did not know how to body snatch until he fell in love with Surma and intended to use it to obtain a human body to be with her.

[skepticism]I can see how that's possible, but not quite sure if I'd call it probable.[/skepticism]

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Re: [496]Renard looooves humans!
« Reply #33 on Dec 16, 2008, 10:39pm »

Reynardine is Surma's long-lost brother

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« Reply #34 on Dec 17, 2008, 2:28am »

Reynardine is secretly Belkar Bitterleaf in a tutu. And Annie's father. Can folks please read the comic before suggesting yet again that Reynardine is Annie's dad?

It seems to me a safe guess that he tried to jump a few bodies to get close to Surma. However, and this is just a weird hunch, I have an odd feeling Eglamore had something to do with it. Something seems to have driven he and Surma apart, and it happened after Surma dissociated herself from the Wood and Court. I want to know how Eglamore fits into Renard's body jumping history.

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« Reply #35 on Dec 17, 2008, 5:43am »

That's a good call, erk. It seems especially appropriate considering James ended up guarding Rey...it suggests they have more of a shared past than simply "this guy jumped into my friend's body."

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Re: [496]Renard looooves humans!
« Reply #36 on Dec 17, 2008, 5:45am »

One thing that I wouldn't mind finding out is whether there is any connection between Reyn's body-jumping, and Surma's illness. I mean, here's this vibrant, vital woman with amazing ties to both the Court and the Wood.....and suddenly that all just goes downhill for years until she finally dies?

From the looks of it, Annie's never known any other home than the hospital, which means that it's very likely Annie's birth and Surma's illness could be tied. Or at least she took ill shortly after she gave birth to Annie.

With this in mind--I want to point out that there's just so much we don't know. That includes the Surma-Reynardine relationship, and Anthony's role in all this.

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Re: [496]Renard looooves humans!
« Reply #37 on Dec 17, 2008, 7:14am »

You know this is a somewhat awkward time to bring this up, but I just noticed Annie flicking the water off of her hands in the first panel. It's somewhat adorable; brought a smile to my face.

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Re: [496]Renard looooves humans!
« Reply #38 on Jul 9, 2009, 8:20pm »

Dec 16, 2008, 9:52am, zingbat wrote:

A theory that's come up in the comments section for this comic posits that in Chapter 3, when Reynardine jumped out of Sivo's body, he actually *meant* to end up in the wolf toy, and the bit about stealing Annie's body was just a ruse. I never thought that theory seemed likely, despite the fact that his behavior toward Annie at all other times ranges from grudging respect to almost paternal protectiveness and that everything we know indicates that he was genuinely very fond of Surma.

But people in the comments have pointed out that Reynardine took notice of Annie's wolf doll when he first met her on the roof, and since at that point no one except him knew that he could possess anything with eyes, jumping to a stuffed animal might have seemed like the perfect escape plan: make everyone think you died in a failed body-snatching attempt, and then run off in a body no one expects you to be in (unfortunately, he didn't anticipate the effect that Annie's ownership of the wolf doll would have).

And that got me to thinking: if he was really planning on snatching Antimony's body and escaping that way, why would he announce it to her ("Yes yes, time for all that later. I DO need your help. In fact, what I need is... YOUR BODY!"), especially when Eglamore had just left the jail cell and was likely to be within earshot? In fact, why not talk a little longer and *then* jump to Antimony's body, waiting until he was sure Eggers was out of range? Unless... he was counting on being overheard and 'thwarted' in his body-stealing attempt! I wouldn't put it past him to be that tricky, if what Coyote says about Reynardine is true.

I don't know if this theory has come up before on the forums, but if it hasn't... what do you think? A viable hypothesis, or the stuff of Wild Speculation? Is it sensible, or am I just up too late?

Edit: Woooops, I just re-read the thread from the previous comic and saw that Rasselas has said this already, although much more concisely than I did.

*grumble*

Good hypothesis.

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