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Post by Rasselas on Aug 5, 2009 17:43:30 GMT
Nooo, Kat needs to remain a tomboy forever. I hate you for saying that and now I am going to be mega turbo upset. Any minute now.
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Post by Tom Siddell on Aug 5, 2009 18:04:31 GMT
"If we consider" is not a logical statement, it is a supposition. You're arguing a losing point. Strictly speaking, the ONLY thing that you can conclude from a panel showing 21 people is that 21 people are on the train at this moment. NOTHING else. In point of fact, you can't even say that because you don't know that they're all people. Logically speaking you can only say that Annie and Kat are on the train and there appear to be 19 other humans as well. Supposition is just that... supposition. My original response to King Mir was that you cannot logically conclude from the evidence given anything other than the fact that 21 students appear to be on the train, and that that doesn't encompass more than QN, and therefore you cannot conclude with the evidence given that all of Queslett is on the trip. Do not do this.
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Post by Casey on Aug 5, 2009 18:49:13 GMT
Hmm, Tom, I'm always respectful of your forum as I think you know, and if there's something you don't want us to do, that's fine of course, but I'm unclear from your message exactly what the "this" is that you don't want me/us to do.
Because people make idle chatter while waiting for pages to come up all the time. And people make logical arguments here all the time. And people analyze your wonderful story all the time.
And since you've never said "Do not do this" to any of those things before, and since those things are all I feel I was doing here, I honestly don't know what it is you don't want me to do, since I'm not doing anything that isn't done a hundred times by a hundred other people.
If it was my perceived tone, since your only rule here is "don't be a dick", then I would like to say that I don't think I was at all being a dick, and if you took it that way then I apologize and I'll watch that in the future... but honestly I don't see where I said anything any more offensive than a hundred other things that go through here each week.
Again, I'm sorry if you feel that I've crossed some line or tipped some balance that required you to intervene. I'm often the one intervening on your behalf so it takes me aback that you have called me out. I don't feel I've said anything wrong, but it appears you do, so please... because I want to be a better citizen and agent of your wishes... explain to me what I said or did wrong.
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Post by Tom Siddell on Aug 5, 2009 19:58:45 GMT
Here is a link to the Google definition of "pedantic". Your post was a form of Internet Passive Aggressive Pedanticism that is common to message boards and is not appreciated here. If you don't agree with an Internet guy that someone is on a train then fine, but there is no need for a semantic debate as to why they are wrong. Not on a forum for a comic about school kids going camping. As an aside: Nobody should be intervening on my behalf unless they are a mod.
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Post by clementine on Aug 5, 2009 20:15:15 GMT
So on a hopefully more cheery note, What do you think they'll be doing on this residential? The last time I went on one, we had talks about native bugs, plants, and animals, as well as one on conservation and recycling. There was a bonfire (complete with ghost stories), a Halloween party, and a ridiculous amount of pranks, some abetted by teachers. I think their classes will be similar, as nature is kind of the point of a camping trip, but that everything will have a subtle Court bias. I bet there will be mischief, although I couldn't guess what kind. And I want there to be a bonfire, but that's just because I like them .
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Post by Casey on Aug 5, 2009 20:24:45 GMT
I understand that you may have seen such behavior from other people in other places, but your perception that that was what I was doing here is mistaken. If anything, pepoluan, who regularly argues and refutes things people say just for the sake of argument, was the one being pedantic in this thread. I just asked King Mir a question, and even said that he could be right... so I clearly wasn't trying to semantically prove him wrong or whatever.
I made a statement, pepo made two posts pedantically refuting it... I made a response to those, and then you get on me. I think you may have missed the mark a little bit.
Anyway, whatever. This rebuke has left a bad taste in my mouth so I'll just withdraw. But, respectfully, I really do think you were mistaken and were too quick to come down on me.
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Post by pepoluan on Aug 5, 2009 20:38:50 GMT
I think their classes will be similar, as nature is kind of the point of a camping trip, but that everything will have a subtle Court bias. I bet there will be mischief, although I couldn't guess what kind. And I want there to be a bonfire, but that's just because I like them . Hmm... If Zimmy goes camping, too... What if all the campers got sucked into Zimmingham?
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Post by Riess on Aug 5, 2009 20:53:56 GMT
Well they certainly wouldn't be happy campers. >rim shot<
... Sorry.
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Post by truffle on Aug 5, 2009 22:28:47 GMT
I think Paz is in the background.
Or some other girl with short straight hair.
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Post by wanderer on Aug 6, 2009 0:37:49 GMT
They better invent the weather modification network soon. Oh, Kat already made that when she was doing some experiments on plant biology. But it's not like that old thing's important or useful in any way.
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Post by King Mir on Aug 6, 2009 2:12:42 GMT
21 students visible. That means at least all of Queslett 8, at least. How does the math work on that by the way? Because I got the impression from this page that there were 15 boys and 15 girls in QN (and another 15 boys and 15 girls in QS, thus making 30 of each in the dorms). Not saying you're not right... it could be the entirety of Year 8 for all I know (a fact supported by this page which seems to indicate the entire Year 8 was being addressed in the assembly) but I'm just curious how you can reach the conclusion you did from the evidence. My bad, you're right. I forgot that the girls and guys had separate dorms that first year. My excuse is that is was 3am when I made that post. Also, "hold the thirty students from the north and south classes" does sound like there are 30 students total, even though that would inconsistent with the rest of the page.
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Post by duohimura on Aug 6, 2009 5:52:39 GMT
Nooo, Kat needs to remain a tomboy forever. Seconded. In a, you know, "This is completely opinion and it's Tom's story so I should probably just shut up," kind of way. It was a nice contrast with Annie, but hey, if Tom wants to keep changing the details of character designs over time in a realistic fashion, more power to him for doing something different from every other comic out there (sans Scott Pilgrim, I guess). Not entirely enamored of Kat's expression on the second-to-last panel. It... I dunno, makes her look sort of like the um... the redheaded fairy. *Waits to be bombarded with her name* Anyway, art nitpick. Annie's blank-face in the first panel, on the other hand, is disturbing in exactly the way that sort of thing should be disturbing. Come to think of it, Tom's faces are generally so expressive that the blank look there really stands out against the rest of the comic, doesn't it? Also--clearly what we need to do to figure out the occupancy of the train is to estimate its speed/acceleration based on the last panel, the amount of forward thrust being exerted, then work out its mass and from there, using the average weight of an 8th year student, work backwards to the numbers. [/over the top Rube Goldberg-esque joke about debating how many people are on the train]
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Post by aijuan on Aug 6, 2009 9:00:51 GMT
It's a British train though, so there will still be engineering works and the time-boards will be broken. Fixed.
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Post by guyy on Aug 6, 2009 12:00:10 GMT
What, no mention of this being the 600th comic? I mean, I know it's just a big, round number, but still...
Good to finally see Kat again, though; we haven't seen her since two chapters ago when she punched a giant owl-man.
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Post by Yin on Aug 6, 2009 12:19:19 GMT
We didn't make much of the 500th, so as far as I'm concerned I shall wait for the thousandth comic and meme until I'm sick of it (very quickly). Or I may not meme at all. One thousand is a fair way away, after all.
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Post by the bandit on Aug 6, 2009 14:51:39 GMT
Not entirely enamored of Kat's expression on the second-to-last panel. It... I dunno, makes her look sort of like the um... the redheaded fairy. *Waits to be bombarded with her name* Open all bomb bays! Red. Red red reddity red reddy red. Red. You were basically there, I imagine it was like looking for your sunglasses when they're on your head.
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Post by Ulysses on Aug 6, 2009 17:04:15 GMT
What if that last panel shows a completely different train to the one they're on? The speech bubble does seem to go behind the building... All the debating will be for naught! Either way, I'm still going to speculate that the train is infinitely long. We can't see the back of it, we don't know how long it is! Gwa ha ha.
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Post by Jiminiminy on Aug 6, 2009 19:18:04 GMT
Ah, but if it were infinitly long, we'd have to see the back of it someway or another. If it kept on going forever, eventually it'd take up all tangible space in the universe, and then some, now wouldn't it? The way I see it, it's somewhere between the seven cars we see, and the some hundred-million cars necessary to occupy every space in the world other than that which we can see presently. For instance, those buildings we see are also made of the same train-car, although that far down the trail hasn't started to move yet.
Edit: My apologies, I meant to say that we'd have to see the sides of it one way or another.
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Post by Per on Aug 6, 2009 19:53:18 GMT
The track is circular and the train is as long as the track. It just rotates, then when the kids come back where they took off they're greeted by the same staff wearing fake beards and going, "Welcome to Frunnersquigg Bourt, please pitch your tents in uuuhh this little courtyard with a tree in it?" and the kids roll their eyes and go "What evars"
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Post by Ulysses on Aug 6, 2009 20:20:32 GMT
The way I see it, it's somewhere between the seven cars we see, and the some hundred-million cars necessary to occupy every space in the world other than that which we can see presently. For instance, those buildings we see are also made of the same train-car, although that far down the trail hasn't started to move yet. I like the second option. The Court's big secret is that the whole thing is made from a single train. The last ever panel will just be Annie going after finding out. I also love the idea of Frunnersquigg Bourt, the Land of Beards. I may do a sketch
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Post by Chrome on Aug 6, 2009 22:42:57 GMT
I've had a bit of speculation as to what we might be having problems with.
That assembly that you guys are referring to? Red turned up at the end of that one, while the crowds were still dispersing. That suggests she was in attendance, along with the rest of Foley House, since she's a former Wood creature. That suggests that all of Year 8 - Queslett, Thornhill, Chester, and Foley - is on the trip.
That doesn't just include Zimmy, who might not be going for whatever reasons.
That includes Red. Red, who tried to cut her fingers off with scissors when she realized "you can cut things off these bodies!" Red, who revealed that Ysengrin was lying about the dead Tic-Toc and the "timetable" he suggested for it. Red, who most definitely is a few cans short of a six-pack.
I'm sure we can find quite a few things to protest there. ;D
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Post by Per on Aug 6, 2009 22:44:19 GMT
Don't forget Anja, she wears a big smile along with her beard.
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Post by Jiminiminy on Aug 6, 2009 23:17:24 GMT
Hey, you know what I realized yesterday but just now decided to post since no one else did? That one guy in panel three (talking to the person who people speculated was Gamma) looks like a young Zac Efron, don't you think?
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Aug 6, 2009 23:29:56 GMT
I would not be surprised one bit if we found out Red has since become a pyromaniac. I'd like to think that Blue is able to keep her in check when shes not doing Red's homework though. Hey, maybe we'll even get to see fishboy! That would be fintastic!
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Post by Per on Aug 6, 2009 23:50:54 GMT
OK, punners will be rim shot!
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Post by jimbobbowilly on Aug 7, 2009 3:54:03 GMT
OK, punners will be rim shot! PUNNERKRIGG COURT
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Post by Jiminiminy on Aug 7, 2009 4:26:04 GMT
Oh, oh god, it's a pundemic here. The sheer literary carnage that is unfolding beneath us is punbelievible. It's amazing how people can stand to watch this kind of thing, but apparently some are even joining in to what we see here today.
Truly harrowing stuff to a board of only some thirteen hundred people. Now over to Tom for sports!
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Post by Yin on Aug 7, 2009 5:16:32 GMT
Groooan... don't derail the thread.
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Post by four on Aug 7, 2009 5:31:09 GMT
Yin's got a point. We ought to get this thread back on track.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Aug 7, 2009 5:49:28 GMT
Agreed, lets not ruin our train of thought.
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