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Post by Casey on Jul 9, 2009 22:18:53 GMT
I agree with Mishmash. Tom has said that the old friends had no contact with Surma or Anthony after they left the Court. Quotes provided on request.
Also: I don't think one would say that Annie has mediation abilities. Annie has an attunement with the ethereal, and that makes her a good candidate to be a mediator, but I think it's important to remember the difference. On the other hand, I think that you meant the latter even though you said the former. Annie's attunement with the Ethereal, and her longtime exposure to the psychopomp's doing their job, made it possible for her to wing it when no one was available to do so.
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Post by fidodo on Jul 9, 2009 23:57:29 GMT
I thought that was more due to seeing her pendant, and it being one that would only be passed on after death. Either way, I doubt it's very important to the plot, or that it will be answered later.
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Post by Casey on Jul 10, 2009 0:02:32 GMT
My interpretation is different from yours, based if nothing else just on the amount of conversation this very question has sparked in the past here on the boards. Time will tell.
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Post by Tenebrais on Jul 10, 2009 1:06:23 GMT
I thought that was more due to seeing her pendant, and it being one that would only be passed on after death. Either way, I doubt it's very important to the plot, or that it will be answered later. I'd have thought it almost certainly related to the fact that since Annie's birth Surma lived in a hospital. Which is definitely important to the plot. On a separate note, why no questions relating to Mort? Who he is, what he is, why it is his job to scare people? |
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Post by Casey on Jul 10, 2009 1:20:52 GMT
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Post by Jiminiminy on Jul 10, 2009 1:28:21 GMT
395 - How did Annie know Mort was eavesdropping? Does no one else notice the fact that Lamp-Mort is bent over, watching Jones leave in the third to last panel? Not to mention in the page before, third panel, there is no lamp there at all? Doesn't take much if you notice the things around you, I'm sure you would notice magical teleporting lamps, or lack thereof, if they were around you. |
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Post by warrl on Jul 10, 2009 6:44:49 GMT
I'm sure you would notice magical teleporting lamps, or lack thereof, if they were around you. I have definitely noticed a lack of such lamps in this vicinity. |
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Post by todd on Jul 10, 2009 10:56:00 GMT
Another unanswered question: why did Shadow2, after being so desperate to return to Gillitie Wood in the first chapter (and thereby setting the events of the story in motion), decide to go back to the Court and live there in Chapter Eight?
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Post by Casey on Jul 10, 2009 15:50:07 GMT
That's a good one Todd. I think Tom said something like "he liked it better there" but I'm sure that there's more to it than just that.
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Post by zylaa on Jul 11, 2009 15:52:55 GMT
A few more:340 - Mallt-y-Nos tells Surma that Annie mediating is "inevitable" - Why is that? 359 - Moddey Dhoo might have implied there was an afterlife. Page 534 supports this with beings that seem to have come from a nether realm/world. Is there one? If so, did Annie have to go there when she guided her mother? If so, is that why she hates the psychopomps and why nothing scares Annie? Adding the first, I'll add the "did Annie have to go to the nether realm (if it exists) when she guided her mother?" but as for hating psychopomps, that's because they made her take her mother herself.Added both. Anja could have been told by someone else that Surma was dead; also, I'm pretty sure the answer to that will be covered in the answer to "Why could Reynardine tell just from Annie's presence that Surma was dead?" That's on there already. Added. I'm planning to add all the Ch. 23 questions once the chapter is finished. Thanks for your help! |
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Post by man on Jul 13, 2009 6:03:12 GMT
why does eglamore have little head?   ) |
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Post by bisected8 on Jul 13, 2009 11:30:31 GMT
why does eglamore have little head? ) He just has a massive body doesn't he? After all his proportions were fairly normal in the flashbacks. Maybe part of becoming a dragon slayer involves steroid injections.  |
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Post by idonotlikepeas on Jul 13, 2009 13:59:13 GMT
I'm not sure how significant all of these are, but here's what I can think of: From chapter 1, panel 1: we know that Annie is narrating this story from some future point. What is that point? With whom is she speaking or to whom is she writing? (Normally I wouldn't think that was necessarily important, but in one of the questions threads Tom said something about it remaining to be seen, or similar.) Starting in chapter 1, but emphasized again in chapter 3 and repeated in various other places: why is the security in the Court such a joke? There are serious alarms when people try to cross the bridge, but the various secret things (Robots, large animal cells) are clearly labelled, Annie fools the robots with a headband with pom-poms on it, the internal alarms are easy for anyone with training in science (the subject the school apparently spends the most time training its students in) to get around, the security robots can be deactivated by Donald's clever car-alarm-based device, etc. Some of these things are presumably just throw-away jokes, but this is kind of a pervasive theme. Is the court /intending/ that the students should break through the security from time to time? Chapter 2: in the library, what are the luminous footprint paintings? We spend two panels looking at them and they don't otherwise affect the scene, which suggests that they are Something. Chapter 5: OH MY GOD COULD REYNARDINE TAKE OVER THE BODY OF A HURRICANE AFTER ALL IT HAS AN EYE HURRRR Chapter 12: the robots seem to have specific purposes. What is the purpose of the seraph robots? 12 again: why are so many robots being studied in the research area? Is Reynardine correct about there being trouble in the ranks, or is there a different explanation? Chapter 13: Which is really better, "Fat of the Land" or "Music for a Jilted Generation"? How do they compare with "Invaders Must Die"? Chapter 15: Why is the education of the people from the forest lacking in basic vocabulary and heavy on science? Is it just a result of the focus on science at the Court or is there a specific plan for these people? Chapter 16: The Court is pretty dangerous. How does that work with Surma's closing line in the chapter? Is this part of the "why did everyone know she was dead" question? (If she won't send her into danger while she lives...) Chapter 17: how long ago did Coyote divide the Court and Forest? 17 again: why does Jones provoke Eglamore into this fight? Is it for Annie's benefit, as Eglamore suggests? Chapter 18: Anja clearly knows she's giving her daughter the key to the Mysterious Robot Room, especially given the later flashback on the subject. Why does she do this? Why is she nervous about it? Whom was she going to ask about it? (The computer?) Chapter 19: Kat has a Lobster Johnson action figure. Is that the most awesome thing ever, or only second-most-awesome? Chapter 20: What is the deal with Eglamore's beacon and how will Annie ultimately put it to use? 20 again: are Coyote, Reynard, and Ysengrin looking at the seed bismuth in 491? 20: how many of Ysengrin's actions (burying the bird, leaving the seeds, corrupting Robot) are known to Coyote and how many are part of his own plans? In chapter 21, Annie asks Anja if she is a magician of some sort. We learn in chapter 22 that the answer is "yes", but that is not actually the answer that Anja gives. (She doesn't say "no", she just talks about the computer in a way that is clearly supposed to make it /appear/ that she's answered the question negatively by providing an alternative explanation for her apparent powers, barring the unspecified etheric methods included as a component in the computer.) Why does Anja conceal her abilities, assuming she still possesses them? This might be covered under "How did Eglamore get to be friends with Sivo", but: in chapter 22, Mr. Thorn asks Eglamore if he's heard of the Rogat Orjak right before the scene change (while discussing training him to be a dragon slayer). At the end of the chapter, he shows up riding one. When Eglamore grows up, he says that a different one, Sivo, is his "good friend". What is the connection between the dragon slayers and the Rogat Orjak? Again, from chapter 22: we know who Brinnie is now, but /where/ is she? We haven't seen her in the modern timeline at all. It's possible that she's hanging around and we just haven't seen her, of course, but it seems likely that the answer is more interesting. (Sleeping in a castle behind a wall of shields?) This may be covered under "where's Anthony gone", but we know from various chapters that even as a kid he just vanishes all the time. Even in Chapter 22 he says that he has matters to attend to. We also know that he's a surgeon but he also taught Antimony some martial arts skills. What is it about Anthony that makes him vanish all the time? Why doesn't he explain where he's going when he does it? Does he have some kind of special training or duties, or is he just a jerk? |
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Post by Casey on Jul 13, 2009 15:14:26 GMT
Chapter 2: in the library, what are the luminous footprint paintings? We spend two panels looking at them and they don't otherwise affect the scene, which suggests that they are Something. Tom has already said that these were a plot element that he later decided not to explore. This question (and answer) have already been asked in this very thread. Chapter 18: Anja clearly knows she's giving her daughter the key to the Mysterious Robot Room, especially given the later flashback on the subject. Why does she do this? Why is she nervous about it? Whom was she going to ask about it? (The computer?) As we learned later in the flashback in the same chapter, Anja studied the robots for a long time, just like Kat is doing today. She gives them the key for a simple reason: It's her workspace. It just so happens that her workspace is the one above the room where Diego worked... a fact that Anja undoubtedly discovered on her own in her time. She is not nervous about giving them the key. She is expressing her desire to go with Annie and Kat because she still wishes to solve the mystery of Diego's robots. Donald says "you could ask them (Annie and Kat) (if you could go along with them)" and Anja says "No, my time for youthful curiosity is passed... it is the children's turn to try to solve the mystery." Chapter 5: OH MY GOD COULD REYNARDINE TAKE OVER THE BODY OF A HURRICANE AFTER ALL IT HAS AN EYE HURRRR Chapter 13: Which is really better, "Fat of the Land" or "Music for a Jilted Generation"? How do they compare with "Invaders Must Die"? Chapter 15: Why is the education of the people from the forest lacking in basic vocabulary and heavy on science? Is it just a result of the focus on science at the Court or is there a specific plan for these people? 17 again: why does Jones provoke Eglamore into this fight? Is it for Annie's benefit, as Eglamore suggests? Chapter 19: Kat has a Lobster Johnson action figure. Is that the most awesome thing ever, or only second-most-awesome? As I recall, the purpose for this thread is to list the questions that we honestly expect will actually be answered in the course of the story's unfolding. Therefore silly questions, questions of clarification of past events that are not likely to be brought up again, etc don't really go here. Some of your other questions that I didn't quote, though, might make good additions, or might be worth asking in the Questions To Tom thread. This thread is for questions that Tom is not likely to answer in the Questions To Tom thread because he doesn't reveal future plot points. |
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Post by idonotlikepeas on Jul 13, 2009 15:55:10 GMT
As I recall, the purpose for this thread is to list the questions that we honestly expect will actually be answered in the course of the story's unfolding. Therefore silly questions, questions of clarification of past events that are not likely to be brought up again, etc don't really go here. Yeeeeeah, I was totally waiting for the thread's originator to include my question about the Prodigy for Tom to clarify in later comics. I'm gonna be really upset if he doesn't do it, too. I might hold my breath until my forum avatar turns blue. Anyway, what might not seem significant to you might seem significant to someone else. If Tom shows up and says that the education of the fairies or Jones provoking Eglamore aren't important plot threads, or if the thread's author doesn't think they're important, fair enough, but I thought they were worth bringing up. Certainly they don't belong in the same category as jokingly grunting about Reynardine's powers. Your explanation for Anja's behavior makes sense, but I'm still not entirely convinced that that's the whole thing (the panel of her clutching her necklace in particular makes me think there's more to the story). As for the paintings, what Tom said, to the best of my recollection, is that he was still trying to figure out if he could work whateveritwas in ( ref). It's possible that he mentioned it elsewhere and I missed it, though, since I obviously missed the reference to it in this thread. |
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Post by Per on Jul 13, 2009 17:34:18 GMT
Chapter 13: Which is really better, "Fat of the Land" or "Music for a Jilted Generation"? This is not unanswered! It's Jilted, natch. How do they compare with "Invaders Must Die"? At this time I think I prefer IMD to Fat. They're pretty different though. It just so happens that her workspace is the one above the room where Diego worked... a fact that Anja undoubtedly discovered on her own in her time. I take the dialogue between Anja and Surma at the end of that chapter to imply that they found the robots, but nothing more. They didn't get them to move and had no idea what they were there for. |
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Post by Casey on Jul 13, 2009 17:48:25 GMT
"Ah, I think I never get it! Just to get one of those robots to move. I wish I could see it!"
I hear what you're saying Per, but in my interpretation, the bold part is saying that she has been trying to get them to move for some time.
Edit: Followed by Surma saying "You'll figure it out" is a clear indication that she has been trying to figure out how to get the robots to move. Way more than just finding them.
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Post by Per on Jul 13, 2009 18:04:22 GMT
But A&K had to trigger the reenactment for S1 to cut a hole in a slab of rock and open what seems to be the only way into the shrine.
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Post by Casey on Jul 13, 2009 18:05:22 GMT
I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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Post by Mishmash on Jul 13, 2009 18:14:28 GMT
Casey, I think Per is saying that Anja knew about the robots but she did not necessarily know about Jeanne's portrait. In fact she probably didn't.
In the flashback where Anja talks about trying to get the robots to move we know she has not managed to do it yet - it is likely she never managed since Annie and Kat needed Robot's CPU to do it.
S1 opened the pathway to Jeanne's portrait when Annie and Kat made him move - if Anja never figured out how to switch on the robots, she wouldn't have found to portrait and known about Diego.
This is all a digression from the purpose of this topic, so I suggest we leave it at that - surely it can't need any more clarification.
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Post by Casey on Jul 13, 2009 18:33:03 GMT
Yeah I thought that was what he was trying to say... but no one ever said anything about Anja knowing about the portrait or the shrine. No one ever said Anja actually got the robots to move. She obviously didn't. The only reason Annie and Kat were able to get them to move is because they had access to an original CPU (Robot's). So again, I'm not sure what Per is talking about because I never said that Anja got them to move. Only that she had tried to get them to move for some time, much like Kat did before they thought to use Robot's CPU.
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Post by Per on Jul 13, 2009 18:48:19 GMT
I was evidently reading a little too much into what you wrote: I thought you meant specifically that they had learned something about Diego. It was the word "undoubtedly" that led me to believe you were referring to something at least a little bit speculative, that is beyond just finding the robots.
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Post by Casey on Jul 13, 2009 20:02:25 GMT
I said that Anja undoubtedly discovered Diego's work room underneath her own room. That is self-evident by the fact that Anja is aware of the existence of the robots down there. And if Kat is right, then Anja is the one who put the shop lights in there, and it could be surmised, put the lock on the door that Reynardine broke.
I think when I said "the room where Diego worked", you thought I was referring to the shrine. I wasn't: I was referring to the large "arena" room where the actual bull battle takes place. Anja was aware of that room, undoubtedly discovering it during her own teenage years when the room above was her workroom.
Now if you really want to ponder a mind puzzler, why did Anja give them a key to her workroom and imply in her speech to Donny that the kids would figure out the nonmoving robots on their own... but not provide them with a key to the lock on the trap door? Did she just assume that they would break into a lock that she most likely put on there herself 20 years prior?
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jul 13, 2009 22:32:36 GMT
Starting in chapter 1, but emphasized again in chapter 3 and repeated in various other places: why is the security in the Court such a joke? There are serious alarms when people try to cross the bridge, but the various secret things (Robots, large animal cells) are clearly labelled, Annie fools the robots with a headband with pom-poms on it, the internal alarms are easy for anyone with training in science (the subject the school apparently spends the most time training its students in) to get around, the security robots can be deactivated by Donald's clever car-alarm-based device, etc. Some of these things are presumably just throw-away jokes, but this is kind of a pervasive theme. Is the court /intending/ that the students should break through the security from time to time? Yeah, I can totally see the Court having an unwritten policy of encouraging unsupervised exploration. As for the Robots' poor security, I suspect their intelligence has decreased over the generations, as they've had to repair themselves in Diego's absence. Rey could possess a potato or a needle, so a Hurricane Rey would make perfect sense. |
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Post by guyy on Jul 14, 2009 12:02:17 GMT
Maybe part of becoming a dragon slayer involves steroid injections. Well, it involves something pretty strange; Eglamore (and previous dragon slayers) have some kind of super-jump ability, and as far as I know no one's explained how they do that yet. |
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Post by idonotlikepeas on Jul 15, 2009 12:16:15 GMT
Another one: why does Ysengrin hate humans so much?
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Post by zylaa on Jul 15, 2009 15:23:36 GMT
Another one: why does Ysengrin hate humans so much? Added that and all the other questions, except for the obvious, and a few that I thought had been already answered. Oh, and except for the security thing-- that seems like it could go under "Questions to Tom." And if he doesn't answer it, it can become Unanswered. =D |
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Post by warrl on Jul 22, 2009 18:06:41 GMT
Rey could possess a potato or a needle, so a Hurricane Rey would make perfect sense. And if it died when he left it, the ability could be rather useful. |
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Post by Per on Jul 22, 2009 18:29:33 GMT
If Rey possesses the public eye, then leaves it, what happens?
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Post by Casey on Jul 22, 2009 19:48:44 GMT
Sigh.
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