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Post by silverberry on Nov 21, 2024 1:29:33 GMT
I wouldn't be shocked if Gamma appeared on the next page, but given how joined at the hip she and Zimmy usually are, this is longer without seeing her than usual outside of distortions, where finding Gamma to end the distortion is usually the goal. It's a lot of little things that are priming my brain to expect Gamma being absent. That's interesting - for me, basically, the fact that every distortion ends with Zimmy and Gamma reuniting prompts me to not think about the fact that they are not in the same place right now. 
We do not entirely know what kind of life Gamma wants. She abandoned everything to love and care for a poor, sopping wet cat of a girl. No one forced her to do so, not as Zimmy was burdened with her own powers. ( "I do it because I love you, Zimmy.") Gamma is 'normal', to quote a Formspring answer, and so perhaps normalcy is, for her, merely the hell she wishes to leave behind. (I know this is somewhat 'edgy' as it were, but Gamma is very literally a teenage girl who always wears black makeup.) In any case, being separated somehow from Zimmy might certainly qualify to make life in the real world the more attractive option. (I will now tread into the territory of egregiously tenuous theorisation: we have Formspring answers explaining both that Gamma had not been in England particularly long before meeting Zimmy, and that she and her parents had not immigrated there. It is possible that she was not permanently residing in the country; her parents may have been traveling for leisure or work. If this area of the distortion is based on the memories of Zimmy and Gamma, as is reasonable to assume, then Gamma may be very far away.) Now I went through every archived Formspring answer that included Gamma. They also include that Gamma's life was already "not too great" when she met Zimmy, and that she doesn't want to think about her parents, so perhaps she ran away from them. I also thought that it was once said somewhere that both Zimmy and Gamma were living on the street when they met, but might have been imagining things there... So yeah in terms of getting certain base needs met, Gamma might even be better off than before. I also have to say that reading the Formsping answers made me shudder with all the things pointed out about Zimmy's possessiveness, selfishness and gaslighting, and Gamma not having any other life except for following Zimmy around. Mobile commenting is being annoying, sorry for not breaking this up for clarity. Regarding your first part of your comment, interesting! Can you expound more? Regarding the second part, I'm looking at the Form spring archive and finding this: Very interesting. I'd always kind of assumed it was her parents, TBH, but it being another schoolmate while she was in school seems very likely to me right now, actually. As pointed out above, we know GKC is not the first school Zimmy has been to, and she doesn't want to go back. Yet I stand by my observation that she seems to actually have academic interests and she seems to be enjoying her school fantasy world, so I don't think it's a distaste for school in general. But her losing control of her powers and killing another student, maybe a bully who was picking on her, considering her beating herself up in the elf kids distortion, would explain a lot. And this setting would build well to expositing it. EDIT: ... on the other hand, apparently Zimmy can't read, so. Double edit: Oh, but further comments indicate she can read via Gamma and it's because she sees something else when looking at text, not that she doesn't know how: |
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Post by aggadahGothic on Nov 21, 2024 2:32:23 GMT
I also have to say that reading the Formsping answers made me shudder with all the things pointed out about Zimmy's possessiveness, selfishness and gaslighting, and Gamma not having any other life except for following Zimmy around.
Hopefully this dream world reprieve will give Zimmy time to reflect on how she treats her, and perhaps even realise that she simply needs to trust in Gamma's sincere care for her, trust that she will not leave immediately if ever she makes other friends or learns English... |
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 21, 2024 2:48:12 GMT
That’s odd: Girl Genius recently had a werewolf go “Hey! Hey!” Is this a reference to something? Anyway, Gemminie won a gunnercookie: This is looking like a school-based manga, with Zimmy playing the tsundere role. This seems to be how the distortion is presenting itself to Zimmy and Coyote. How odd. Did Coyote choose this scenario, or did Zimmy, or ... Lana said that she was a big reader of manga. How aware is Zimmy of what's going on? Does this imply that Lana is around somewhere? Are we going to see her eventually? Is Loup here? Are Loup and Lana a couple somewhere? And where is Gamma? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 21, 2024 4:47:58 GMT
By the way: One of the things that I'm going to be keeping an eye out for this chapter is a trio of characters that look like the faeries(?) that Zeta encountered in Zim Grim. |
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Post by Hatredman on Nov 21, 2024 5:35:19 GMT
Jerrek and Coyote didn't do their homework. Is anyone surprised? ...and as anticipated, there's Lana. Lana was highly anticipated, but I was not expecting Jerrek. It would be really crazy to have, separately, Coyote, Ysengrin and Loup - and, now, Jerrek. |
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Post by Hatredman on Nov 21, 2024 5:37:21 GMT
I had wondered if Loup would be decomposed into Coyote and Ysengrin, but perhaps the logic of the ether works differently... Jerrek seems rather human here, almost as if he does not know that he is Loup anymore. No, not decomposed. Everybody is a different entity. Loup will appear alongside Coyote, Ysengrin and Jerrek. |
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Post by Hatredman on Nov 21, 2024 5:55:31 GMT
Who'll be the teacher?  Gamma |
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Post by Igniz on Nov 21, 2024 6:22:36 GMT
So, if Zeta was in better physical shape, without her trademark "black fog eyes" and free of the constant stress from her condition, would she look just like Annie selected with another button for an alt color palette? Or did she (consciously or not) assumed a similar form for this The CW mini-series/serial?  Jerrek seems rather human here Lana as well, just look at her speech bubble. What remains to be seen is if they are conscious about this, have any memory of the real reality (  ) or are even aware of being inside  . Is he even real? Is he a figment of Zimmy and/ or Coyote's imagination? Loup = Coyote + Ysengrin. If dead goose Coyote is around, there are several possibilities (for the time being): - Ol' Grumpy Ys is also around, Loup has been deconstructed, and this Jerrek is just regular plain Jerrek. - Loup is still around, alongside both of his separate counterparts, but Jerrek is just Jerrek. - This Jerrek is Loup, unaware of it. - This Jerrek is Loup, aware of it and playing along. - This is Jerrek-Loup, but there's also a Loup-Loup somewhere out there.  |
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 21, 2024 13:19:18 GMT
Regarding your first part of your comment, interesting! Can you expound more? Oh I just meant that in my head the association chain goes: We're in a distortion. -> When a distortion starts, Zimmy and Gamma are always apart. -> When they come back together, the distortion always ends. -> Thus right now they must necessarily be apart. You could probably say that I just take it as a given that within a distortion we can always only see Zimmy or Gamma, so the question where Gamma is right now didn't occur to myself. The questions I found more interesting are those about the things that are changed from usual distortions. Like, normally, Zimmy's number one goal is to find Gamma. Why not now? She seems to feel good, but she claims she loved Gamma and would do anything for her (which isn't true, obviously, she doesn't even clean herself for Gamma's sake, but still), so something else must be different now as well. It could be that Zimmy knows that for some reason she cannot reach Gamma right now (but that should put her in some distress, shouldn't it?); it could be that since Zimmy doesn't have her usual problems she has decided to let Gamma enjoy a vacation from looking after her, even if it's inside an illusion; it could be that inside this stabilized distortion Gamma will be waiting around the corner, has a normal high school student life as well and a less taxing and less toxic relationship with Zimmy. It could even be that this is a What If? scenario in which Zimmy and Gamma never met and without her usual problems messing her up Zimmy thinks Gamma is better off without her. I also continue to ask myself where Zimmy's dialect has ended up. Since it wasn't part of her condition, that's one of the things that suggest a What If? type of illusion to me. A Zimmy growing up in a family and going to school might have learned how to talk all proper nice like sorted. In any case, Coyote's and the Star Ocean's influences must have changed the rules about how Zimmy-brand distortions work. For some reason I am also asking myself if the place they are in is based on anyone's memories, and if yes, if the toy shop is there. |
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Post by silverberry on Nov 21, 2024 13:23:09 GMT
Considering that we've already seen Annie split into two along an internal division, I wouldn't be shocked to see Jerrek and Loup similarly split into separate entities here, with an additional Ysengrin somewhere. Regarding your first part of your comment, interesting! Can you expound more? Oh I just meant that in my head the association chain goes: We're in a distortion. -> When a distortion starts, Zimmy and Gamma are always apart. -> When they come back together, the distortion always ends. -> Thus right now they must necessarily be apart. You could probably say that I just take it as a given that within a distortion we can always only see Zimmy or Gamma, so the question where Gamma is right now didn't occur to myself. The questions I found more interesting are those about the things that are changed from usual distortions. Like, normally, Zimmy's number one goal is to find Gamma. Why not now? She seems to feel good, but she claims she loved Gamma and would do anything for her (which isn't true, obviously, she doesn't even clean herself for Gamma's sake, but still), so something else must be different now as well. It could be that Zimmy knows that for some reason she cannot reach Gamma right now (but that should put her in some distress, shouldn't it?); it could be that since Zimmy doesn't have her usual problems she has decided to let Gamma enjoy a vacation from looking after her, even if it's inside an illusion; it could be that inside this stabilized distortion Gamma will be waiting around the corner, has a normal high school student life as well and a less taxing and less toxic relationship with Zimmy. It could even be that this is a What If? scenario in which Zimmy and Gamma never met and without her usual problems messing her up Zimmy thinks Gamma is better off without her. I also continue to ask myself where Zimmy's dialect has ended up. Since it wasn't part of her condition, that's one of the things that suggest a What If? type of illusion to me. A Zimmy growing up in a family and going to school might have learned how to talk all proper nice like sorted. In any case, Coyote's and the Star Ocean's influences must have changed the rules about how Zimmy-brand distortions work. For some reason I am also asking myself if the place they are in is based on anyone's memories, and if yes, if the toy shop is there. Ah! Yeah, this does all make sense. Thanks for explaining! |
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Post by mturtle7 on Nov 21, 2024 17:55:10 GMT
I'm guessing that Loup is unaware of the situation they're in because, at the moment the distortion hit, what he really wanted (deep down) was to be a normal human boy with Lana as his normal human girlfriend. And Lana wants the same thing! Coyote, on the other hand, doesn't want to actually be human, he just wants to play at being human. The guy couldn't even commit to being dead, so it's no surprise that while he's more than happy to play along with the distortion they've all created, he's never going to give up his self-awareness.
Zimmy, I think, is happy with the distortion because she's always seen her powers as a curse which prevented her from having a "normal" childhood. But at the same time...what really pissed her off about her powers was that they've always been outside her control (" I get it, but I can't do nothin' about it!"). So it makes sense that she's not willing to give up her self-awareness and agency any more than Coyote, even if they have radically different reasons for doing so. |
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