[2832]"It sounds like what's happening here too"

[arf]

They are *definitely* not going to like what Zimmy did.

[blahzor]

There's no way she's not going to see her Surma

[laaaa]

...I would have thought that going where Zimmy is would be top priority.

[glyphomatrix]

Antimony Carver, eminent Coyotezimmologist.

[Igniz]

So, now that the very lenghty opening and the unskippable tutorial are over, the true game finally begins.

Sept 4, 2023 8:15:58 GMT glyphomatrix said:

Antimony Carver, eminent Coyotezimmologist.

That's Professor Dr Antimony Carver to you.

[ezpak]

“I have a very specific set of skills. Like, so incredibly specific.”

[sosleepy]

I would say "A lucky survivior oh his unhealthy attention", but "Coyote expert" sounds close enough!



Not to notice that Zimmyngham sure looks pretty under new management~

Also i don't really get it if Kat's inside the distortion or the outside. 



(Damn i feel bad for not being able to check so many new pages in time...)

[gpvos]

Welcome to the forum, ezpak !

[ezpak]

Sept 4, 2023 13:50:11 GMT gpvos said:

Welcome to the forum, ezpak ! 

I've actually been lurking here for almost a year, but I initially gave up on signing up because I messed up the first time around. Happy to finally be here!

[atteSmythe]

After following Antimony home for ten pages, we learn that the Court really does have a Coyote and Zimmy expert that is already handling things.

[Eily]

Sept 4, 2023 7:39:21 GMT laaaa said:

...I would have thought that going where Zimmy is would be top priority.

If Annie starts explaining how things are going to work from now on, then it means the distortion is going to be the new normal for a while.

That, or has soon as she's finished briefing everyone, the distortion disappears

[TBeholder]

Sept 4, 2023 7:39:21 GMT laaaa said:

...I would have thought that going where Zimmy is would be top priority.

Eventually. Which does not make it the most urgent thing.
Even if she still can be found easily (which is not certain at all), by the time anyone who walks could get over there, whatever situation there is will probably stabilize one way or another. Which is more than can be said about random people caught in Zimmy’s nightmares. With the Whitelegs and whatnot around.
And this time it’s even weirder than usual.

Sept 4, 2023 13:28:18 GMT sosleepy said:

I would say "A lucky survivior oh his unhealthy attention", but "Coyote expert" sounds close enough!

You say po-tah-to…

Sept 4, 2023 13:28:18 GMT sosleepy said:

Also i don't really get it if Kat's inside the distortion or the outside.

Well, now she is inside.
The question is, was it already happening there, or did it only start after Annie called and Kat poked the distortion with teleport?

[Angry Individual]

It would be very strange if this was the new normal, huh? I don't think that'll be the case, but we've seen weirder developments.

Though, I have a strong feeling Annie is going to do the exact opposite and will suggest she go toward Zimmy asap.

Unless... Kat decides to do it? Would she? That feels weird but at the same time, maybe that's how we end up with the worst case scenario?

[Gemini Jim]

Part of me is waiting for "Coyote and Zimmy expert" to become just "Coyote and Zimmy." But I refuse to believe that Tom would go back to the same well again.

Also, it's interesting that we haven't actually seen Kat (as opposed to Kat's voice in a handy box) for more than a chapter now.

[King Mir]

Yeah, going to other people does seem like the best option. I mean yes usually proximity to Annie can help dispel these distortions, but Zimmy was right next to Gamma when it happened already, and Loup is a powerful entity to interfere with, so there's a good chance that there's nothing Annie can do. Whereas telling people what is going on is something that definitively will help someone.

[blahzor]

When the white legs show up as robots

[Gemminie]

After a couple of frames to establish time passing, Annie has filled Kat in on what's happened. Kat says it sounds like what's happened there too, so that implies the distortion has engulfed Kat's lab. She says she and the New People there are fine, but "everything looks messed up," which means that the changes are not illusions. Kat raises the question of whether the distortion made it to the shore/star ocean, and Annie thinks it may have, as this distortion is the largest she's ever seen by far.

Then Kat suggests Annie go "home" (meaning to her house, where her dad presumably is, and which is close to Kat's family's home and the homes of, you know, all the other characters whom we haven't seen for a while) and tell everyone what's going on. Annie seems a bit uncertain about that prospect – possibly because it's a long way away, and with everything altered it's a bit difficult to tell where anything is. But Kat reminds her that the Court really doesn't have any other experts on Coyote, Loup, and Zimmy, so she's the best person to "handle" this.

"Handle" in what way? Perhaps she means to explain what's going on to others – and something Kat doesn't mention is that Annie's the only one available who saw what happened to set this off. Well, she and Renard, but presumably they'd both go. But even if there are others who know a lot about Coyote and Zimmy (Jones, for example), Annie really knows more about Loup than anyone else.

So Kat's lab is in the distortion too. This means that radio signals travel within the distortion OK, but however her teleportation/matter transmission works, it tends to disassemble things, so Annie's going to have to walk home, unless the maglev trains are working (and aren't giant worms or something). Narratively, that's why it was necessary to show us the radio appearing in pieces, to give Kat a reason not to want to teleport any people. But her computer was still able to fabricate a radio and attempt to teleport it, meaning it's largely operational. I wonder what it means that the computer was unable to materialize the cage around Loup, though? Does that involve teleporting equipment, which arrived in pieces, but Kat didn't know that happened, just that it didn't work? Or did she mean that the computer just couldn't get a fix on Loup's position?

And we're still conspicuously not seeing Kat or her lab; the point of view's still staying firmly with Annie and Renard. That might be a narrative choice, to keep this chapter an Annie story, or there might be something going on there that we aren't supposed to see yet.

Has the distortion made it to the shores of the star ocean? Well, assuming its footprint is circular and centered on the point where Coyote and Loup converged on Zimmy and Gamma, that place looked like somewhere in the streets of the non-ruined part of the Court, meaning farther away from where the Forest used to be than Annie and Renard are – roughly speaking, somewhere between the ruins and the shore. Yet it reached the ruins in fairly short order, and it reached Kat's lab too, which is supposed to be pretty far from the shore as well, though perhaps not as far as the ruins, and probably not in the same direction. The distortion's center point is a certain distance from Kat's lab and from Annie, and whichever of those two distances is greater, that's the absolute minimum distance it extends from the center in the direction of the shore. Annie's quite right, in my guess here – it could easily have reached the shore. I have to wonder how it interacts with the star ocean and what the Court's doing about it. Maybe they're trying to readjust their Ether collectors to absorb all this energy as Annie and Kat speak. Or maybe those collectors are giant bugs now. Who knows?

(added) So Annie's contemplating a journey through an altered (and possibly still changing) Court landscape that will take her closer to the center of the distortion before she gets where she's going, assuming she knows how to walk home from the ruins normally without getting lost.

[drmemory]

Sept 4, 2023 15:51:47 GMT atteSmythe said:

After following Antimony home for ten pages, we learn that the Court really does have a Coyote and Zimmy expert that is already handling things.

The bummer is that their expert is probably Aata.  He seems to be the one that studied Coyote the most, in hopes of stealing his power.  If not Aata, then some as-yet-unmet member of the Shadow Men.  Outside chance it could be Omega but Omega really doesn't seem to understand the ether.

The only one we've met that seems to really understand Zimmy at all is Robot.  He is the one that came up with that plan to use her to create a distortion on demand, to enable getting the ship brain a whale body so he could steal the giant crab from her husband (it was a whole thing).  But all indications so far are that he has his own agenda, leading the robots to new bodies and freedom, rather than working for the court.  We don't know what he's really up to though, and if he's actually Diego or following Diego's last orders or something, that may all be different from what we think.

[pyradonis]

Sept 5, 2023 17:33:48 GMT drmemory said:

Sept 4, 2023 15:51:47 GMT atteSmythe said:

After following Antimony home for ten pages, we learn that the Court really does have a Coyote and Zimmy expert that is already handling things.

The bummer is that their expert is probably Aata.  He seems to be the one that studied Coyote the most, in hopes of stealing his power.  If not Aata, then some as-yet-unmet member of the Shadow Men.  Outside chance it could be Omega but Omega really doesn't seem to understand the ether.

The only one we've met that seems to really understand Zimmy at all is Robot.  He is the one that came up with that plan to use her to create a distortion on demand, to enable getting the ship brain a whale body so he could steal the giant crab from her husband (it was a whole thing).  But all indications so far are that he has his own agenda, leading the robots to new bodies and freedom, rather than working for the court.  We don't know what he's really up to though, and if he's actually Diego or following Diego's last orders or something, that may all be different from what we think.

I'd say Jack also gets a lot about Zimmy... speaking of, I can't imagine Jack and Jenny sitting still as this is happening. Did Annie ever attempt to convince them that Zimmy's accusations against her were paranoid BS, or do they still believe against all better judgement that Annie has sided with the Court to capture Zimmy and have her killed by Kat?

[ctso74]

Sept 4, 2023 15:51:47 GMT atteSmythe said:

After following Antimony home for ten pages, we learn that the Court really does have a Coyote and Zimmy expert that is already handling things.

The Court should have a Zimmy expert, due to their experimentations, and probably an off-site psych wing filled with "former" Zimmy experts. I'm imagining Dadaist scribblings all over the walls, and Event Horizon-like scenes in every other cell.

[bedinsis]

Hey, arf ? You got the number on this thread wrong. It's [2832], not [2382].

Edit: and you fixed it.