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Post by ctso74 on Apr 5, 2023 14:10:41 GMT
Paz: " Nope." *walks away*
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Post by rabbit on Apr 5, 2023 14:19:30 GMT
Kat: Look, mom, I'm electrics now! Anja: I'm going to have to ground you.
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Post by rabbit on Apr 5, 2023 14:21:14 GMT
Huh. Did Kat just break the website? I was able to access the new page, see her conjure lightning arc on her fingers while having some creepy, uncanny anja eyes, and now nothing works. The webpage is just non reponsive. Error 404: Moral compass not found. Please check back after the Robocalypse.
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Post by Corvo on Apr 5, 2023 15:01:26 GMT
Kat: Look, mom, I'm electrics now! Anja: I'm going to have to ground you.
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Post by blazingstar on Apr 5, 2023 15:08:25 GMT
How do Annie and Paz plan to deal with this manic phase of Kat? A sneak preview of next chapter...
I didn't expect a blackface sketch to be the answer to that question. I'm shocked that the BBC would air racist comedy like that. (Or maybe I just don't know enough about the BBC and their history.)
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Post by Gemminie on Apr 5, 2023 15:21:20 GMT
Kat warps Annie and Paz back out of her ... computer dimension thingie, and they land on their feet as if they've just jumped down about three steps. And the first thing they see is Kat, who is up and off her folding bed, apparently back in her body. She seems fine, but she says she's better than fine, which is great and all ...
Then she says hold my beer watch this, her eyes turn black, and sparks fly from her fingertips.
Ominous? Yes. Worrisome? You bet. Somebody you'd want to break up with? Starting to look that way, yeah. Somebody you'd want to break up with while you're still in her fortress of technology? I'm not sure about that.
Anyway, next we'll see Kat test her new powers and make all the world's phones ring at once or something similarly harmless.
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Post by guntherkrieg on Apr 5, 2023 15:48:31 GMT
Clearly the start of a music number with robots in top hats coming down sweeping staircases. I used to be just like you, a flesh and bone dame But then I found a way to elevate my game I uploaded my soul, my mind, and my grace Into a body of steel, with a brand new face!
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Post by mzpx on Apr 5, 2023 17:08:03 GMT
Uh-oh..
So going back to what the Norns said - does this happen in every universe, mecha-Kat drives Paz away, no one holds her back anymore and she becomes bitter and emotionless, but this time, Annie being around can 'save her'? Probably with great difficulty, as Annie pointed out that this was only easy so far because it was a joint effort between Paz and Annie, but still.
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 5, 2023 17:48:43 GMT
After all, with great power comes great current squared times resistance. As for why they don't know, I personally think it's thanks to Omega. If Omega and Kat are linked as many have speculated, Omega may be manipulating the Court in giving Kat free rein because it needs or wants Kat to do something. The Court thinks Omega is a device, a truth-telling machine that predicts the future, but from Zimmy we know it's not just a device and probably has its own goals. Once again, do we have a reason to think it’s one and the same and not a conflation (bat cave is not a bat)? Kat: Look, mom, I'm electrics now! Anja: I'm going to have to ground you.
She just needs someone well-grounded. Error 404: Moral compass not found. Please check back after the Robocalypse. Then again, good taste suggests to stop after instigating one robot apocalypse. Or this would just look like a weird running gag.
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Post by storyteller on Apr 5, 2023 18:03:32 GMT
Uh-oh.. So going back to what the Norns said - does this happen in every universe, mecha-Kat drives Paz away, no one holds her back anymore and she becomes bitter and emotionless, but this time, Annie being around can 'save her'? Probably with great difficulty, as Annie pointed out that this was only easy so far because it was a joint effort between Paz and Annie, but still. Honestly I'm not sure that Kat ever actually started dating Paz in the first place in that timeline given the hairband removal /peptalk in Divine which happened because Zimmy and Gamma came by. Because Annie collapsed. There's no way that would have happened otherwise because Zimmy is terrified of Kat. And that was the timeline that is the cause if that fear isn't justified in Annie timelines.
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Post by sosleepy on Apr 5, 2023 18:41:47 GMT
Electricity! The next on the list iiiis.... Necromancy!
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Post by sosleepy on Apr 5, 2023 18:51:48 GMT
Man, i'll die of laughter if the next thing she says is gonna be about "gaining unlimited power".
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Post by manabi on Apr 5, 2023 18:52:22 GMT
And she already has her army of minions ready to go as well. The Angel is a suitable ominous supervillain name. Given her appearance in the ether, she'd be The Iron Angel, which is a truly excellent supervillian name.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 5, 2023 20:22:47 GMT
Wouldn't it be funny if Paz, perhaps with luggage in hand right before she gets on the plane to depart, is talking with Antimony again about how she felt unsafe in the Court with all the scary shenanigans, and Antimony says, "Oh right, remember that thing with the clown? Yeah actually that was a ghost I used to hang out with and I sorta had a hand in setting that whole thing up. He wanted advice on how to really scare the crap out of people so I gave him the idea and helped him with the Spanish because I figured that would super freak you out. And I was sorta there watching too. Hope that didn't have anything to do with you breaking up with Kat and leaving and stuff. But hey you got a great story out of it, right? k, bye."
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Post by blahzor on Apr 5, 2023 23:52:56 GMT
Kat's hair moved when she produced the electricity
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Post by silicondream on Apr 6, 2023 1:43:54 GMT
Uh-oh.. So going back to what the Norns said - does this happen in every universe, mecha-Kat drives Paz away, no one holds her back anymore and she becomes bitter and emotionless, but this time, Annie being around can 'save her'? Probably with great difficulty, as Annie pointed out that this was only easy so far because it was a joint effort between Paz and Annie, but still. I think the psychological damage was probably done to Kat much earlier than this in the original timeline. After all, without the Tic-Tocs, she would still have built her flyer at 12 years old and gone down to the Annan Waters; it's just that she would have found Annie's mangled corpse. She would also blame Robot for having killed Annie, and probably wouldn't be willing or able to rescue his CPU, so she'd never befriend the robots as a whole. So she'd pretty much spend her adolescence as a traumatized outsider who sunk 100% of her effort into Court-approved projects, because there would be nothing pulling her in any other direction. I imagine she'd end up a lot like post-Surma Tony.
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Post by maxptc on Apr 6, 2023 2:24:44 GMT
This chapter has really brought the concept of subjectivity some much needed attention. For example, lots of the things that have happened in this situation would be "to far" to most reasonable people, even within the much less reasonable relm of gunnerkrigg. Conversely, if we are to accept that these things aren't "to far" what is left that is? Certainly not the robotic uprising we saw on the preview, Kat has already done the equivalent.
The point is Kat is going to propose and Paz will say yes.
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Post by jda on Apr 6, 2023 5:05:15 GMT
Paz, with a lovely smile: "Kat, that is wondeful! I love you and will alway be with you" and runs to kiss & hug Kat Kat, hugging her, to Annie: "See? I fixed what was wrong inside of Paz's head!"
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Post by sosleepy on Apr 6, 2023 11:39:43 GMT
Uh-oh.. So going back to what the Norns said - does this happen in every universe, mecha-Kat drives Paz away, no one holds her back anymore and she becomes bitter and emotionless, but this time, Annie being around can 'save her'? Probably with great difficulty, as Annie pointed out that this was only easy so far because it was a joint effort between Paz and Annie, but still. I think the psychological damage was probably done to Kat much earlier than this in the original timeline. After all, without the Tic-Tocs, she would still have built her flyer at 12 years old and gone down to the Annan Waters; it's just that she would have found Annie's mangled corpse. She would also blame Robot for having killed Annie, and probably wouldn't be willing or able to rescue his CPU, so she'd never befriend the robots as a whole. So she'd pretty much spend her adolescence as a traumatized outsider who sunk 100% of her effort into Court-approved projects, because there would be nothing pulling her in any other direction. I imagine she'd end up a lot like post-Surma Tony. I don't think Kat would blame robot. Eglamore would smash him anyway and it would become obvious that someone from the forest has tinkered with it. With this knowledge i doubt Kat would ever trust any forest creature again or perhaps she might even bear hatred towards them. And i think being traumatized by losing her best friend combined with her tremendous intelligence... Kat wouldn't simply follow Courts orders. Kat is smart and dedicated enough to lead it. Her distrust for forest creatures might grow into hatred to ANY etheric creature. Being traumatized by Annies death she would come to reject the Ether itself seeing it as the source of all problems and bearing the idea to create a world where Ether doesn't exist at all. A world where she could control absolutely everything and nothing is accidental. All of that so she could never feel the pain of losing anyone again! ...Ahem, if we consider that the loop has a beginning and Kat who didn't save Annie and never met Norns exists somewhere of course.
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Post by Dvandaemon on Apr 6, 2023 13:49:55 GMT
Awww, she's got her mother's eyes. Makes me wonder, since her mother had those eyes since she was Kat's age, if that's similar to how she got it.
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Post by guntherkrieg on Apr 6, 2023 14:10:34 GMT
Clearly the start of a music number with robots in top hats coming down sweeping staircases. I used to be just like you, a flesh and bone dame But then I found a way to elevate my game I uploaded my soul, my mind, and my grace Into a body of steel, with a brand new face!
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Post by Corvo on Apr 6, 2023 15:08:20 GMT
Kat's hair moved when she produced the electricity If you're talking about her little "side-horn-hair", it had already moved a few panels before the electric trick. It sensed what was coming and wants nothing to do with it.
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Post by rabbit on Apr 6, 2023 19:47:13 GMT
There is an interesting pair of character arcs going on simultaneously here:
A canine god who is becoming - or wants to become - a human young man experiencing love for the first time. A young human woman who is achieving - or maybe achieved in this episode? - mecha-goddesshood.
--or as manabi so eloquently put it, "Iron Angel."
What makes them interesting is that Annie may be in a position to save them both?
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 7, 2023 3:02:06 GMT
There is an interesting pair of character arcs going on simultaneously here: Plus an electrical arc. ba dum tssh
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 7, 2023 3:54:27 GMT
I knew the black eyes looked familiar!
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Post by arf on Apr 7, 2023 4:44:07 GMT
How do Annie and Paz plan to deal with this manic phase of Kat? A sneak preview of next chapter...
My workshop? It's a wife mine now! All of which are cowled mutterers-to-animals called 'Paz'.
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Post by philman on Apr 7, 2023 8:55:45 GMT
How do Annie and Paz plan to deal with this manic phase of Kat? A sneak preview of next chapter...
I didn't expect a blackface sketch to be the answer to that question. I'm shocked that the BBC would air racist comedy like that. (Or maybe I just don't know enough about the BBC and their history.) In his original appearance Papa Lazerou was supposed to be a character that composed entirely of 1950's evil creepy circus stereotypes, hence the blackface, circus outfit and offensive gypsy stereotypes, and was designed to be offensive and creepy in order to unsettle the viewers and show that the circus he ran was horrifically outdated and creepy. League of Gentleman is a weird horror-comedy show, in which pretty much every character is some sort of horrific monster in some different way, and played by the same cast of 4 actors. Papa Lazarou is one of the more controversial ones, mostly due to the blackface, and is probably the most disturbing character in a show full of disturbing characters, but almost every other character in the show is just as horrific in terms of behaviour (aside from the "out-of-town" characters who usually end up as victims of the rest).
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Post by blazingstar on Apr 7, 2023 17:24:16 GMT
I didn't expect a blackface sketch to be the answer to that question. I'm shocked that the BBC would air racist comedy like that. (Or maybe I just don't know enough about the BBC and their history.) In his original appearance Papa Lazerou was supposed to be a character that composed entirely of 1950's evil creepy circus stereotypes, hence the blackface, circus outfit and offensive gypsy stereotypes, and was designed to be offensive and creepy in order to unsettle the viewers and show that the circus he ran was horrifically outdated and creepy. League of Gentleman is a weird horror-comedy show, in which pretty much every character is some sort of horrific monster in some different way, and played by the same cast of 4 actors. Papa Lazarou is one of the more controversial ones, mostly due to the blackface, and is probably the most disturbing character in a show full of disturbing characters, but almost every other character in the show is just as horrific in terms of behaviour (aside from the "out-of-town" characters who usually end up as victims of the rest). Thank you for answering. British humor (humour?) continues to be stranger than I ever imagined.
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