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Post by TBeholder on Feb 24, 2023 15:12:12 GMT
Wood or cardboard boxes and crates would cause smoke and maybe force them to move Kat when they shouldn't, but containers of chemicals catching fire could be an immediate disaster. Most likely there’s some furniture, stray gadgets, etc. Smoke inhalation is likely to become a danger long before the fire spreads (if at all), especially while there may be several problems with moving Kat. I still have to put that second to checking to see if Kat's still breathing, though. Yes, but it won’t take long, and once done, there are two of them (also, Annie may or may not count as two for action economy purpose).
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 24, 2023 15:58:24 GMT
Wood or cardboard boxes and crates would cause smoke and maybe force them to move Kat when they shouldn't, but containers of chemicals catching fire could be an immediate disaster. Most likely there’s some furniture, stray gadgets, etc. Smoke inhalation is likely to become a danger long before the fire spreads (if at all), especially while there may be several problems with moving Kat. Not sure about that. At least some of the inputs for making robot bodies in dry or concentrate are likely more flammable than the robot bodies plus electricity. The remains of the coil device are potentially on/in/under boxes/bins of such things and what's left of its power source is probably burning pretty hot. Smoke inhalation and blinding are big problems but a big kaboom that concusses everybody and then fills the place with smoke would be worse than just the smoke. Or buries them in debris. IRL that'd be a big concern but there should be enough concentrated plot armor present so that can't happen.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 24, 2023 16:17:54 GMT
I think some care should be taken to separate the experience when reading the comic from a book or the archive, where one can immediately turn a page for additional developments and context, from that of pages slowly filtered through the forum, where fourteen people each grab a handful of speculation balls and run off in their various directions then complain the storytelling is sprawling. Generally I agree, but I don’t see how that would work in this chapter and the end of the last one. The last chapter wasn’t abrupt and disjointed as read page by page. The end with Annie being turned on by Jack and Jenny felt abrupt and disjointed from what came before. Jack and Jenny were calm in a crisis on the boat, but suddenly they won’t let Annie explain? Then this chapter started with Kat asking the two characters closest to her to implant a chip. Their expressions are horrified but they just agree to do it without much discussion. They smile widely at each other after Paz crying a page before. Kat’s device goes “BOOM” and Paz and Annie panic. That doesn’t seem like Annie but I guess it’s a continuation from her being ripped into last chapter by Jack and Jenny. Is Annie going to be blamed by Paz, Kat, her father, the Donlans, and the entire court for the outcome of this? Why not, it’s blame Annie year in the comic. Maybe Renard and Eglamore can get in some digs at her too. Why not a suprise appearance by Khepi too, blaming things Annie had absolutely no control over on her doing "too much meddlin'"?
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Post by Per on Feb 24, 2023 23:54:07 GMT
To these specific points: The last chapter wasn’t abrupt and disjointed as read page by page. The end with Annie being turned on by Jack and Jenny felt abrupt and disjointed from what came before. Jack and Jenny were calm in a crisis on the boat, but suddenly they won’t let Annie explain? Who knows? They requested explanations (decisively from their POV as protagonists, aggressively from the POV of them as auxiliaries), Annie didn't really give them any and ran off instead. (If you transposed the scene back in time to the earlier chapters, OG Annie would hardly have behaved in that way, but she's come a long way and the stakes have been raised.) It's possible to give the sequence a fairly straightforward reading where Annie and Paz react to developments. At first they are concerned, Paz then decides it's not up to her to tell Kat no and to trust her instead, but she's clearly still conflicted and perhaps seeing wider implications for their relationship. When the procedure goes well, she's relieved and acknowledges Annie's contribution, while Annie is always happy to be at all relevant in the science world that Kat and Anthony inhabit. When Kat goes bang they are understandably shocked and afraid. But in the forum this reading will be overlaid with a weeks-long web of incompatible and incongruent theories of doom and double-dealing. Maybe part of it underscores how "what Annie is like" hasn't remained constant over time. At one point she'd have been consistently unflapped and sword ghosts and body-stealing spirits notwithstanding she'd have done fine, now she finds herself in a more treacherous setting and has to second-guess herself in situations like this like everyone else.
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Post by silicondream on Feb 25, 2023 13:29:07 GMT
Is Annie going to be blamed by Paz, Kat, her father, the Donlans, and the entire court for the outcome of this? Why not, it’s blame Annie year in the comic. Maybe Renard and Eglamore can get in some digs at her too. Why not a suprise appearance by Khepi too, blaming things Annie had absolutely no control over on her doing "too much meddlin'"? Technically, Khepi was just wrong about which instances of meddling caused the problem. If Annie hadn't unilaterally disarmed the Court by freeing Jean, Coyote wouldn't have unleashed Ysengrin and enabled Loup's creation. And if the Annies hadn't ticked off Loup during their conversation, he might have chosen a different method to assist them besides expelling all the Forest People. (Of course then they'd just be in stasis with the rest of the creatures, but at least they wouldn't know that.) Theodicy 101: God may set up an elaborate chain of events leading to catastrophe, but as long as your free choice was involved somewhere that makes everything your fault. Note: This may not be a completely accurate characterization of the entirety of Abrahamic theology.
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