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Post by pyradonis on Jan 20, 2023 12:40:47 GMT
Hmm, then maybe the Court gives out phones only to its employees? |
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Post by laaaa on Jan 20, 2023 13:12:07 GMT
I'm also a bit confused by the latest turn of events, but I think it makes sense in hindsight.
Jenny and what's-his-face don't know Annie THAT well. They've never really hung out. He has spoken to Annie, like, 5? 6? times in the entirety of the comic. Once or twice they spoke very briefly, twice they were in action-packed scenarios. They only really talked that time when Annie dumped him. And while those interactions went well, it still wasn't clear (from his perspective) where Annie's allegience lies. She helped protect Zimmy, sure, but the Court itself has been providing a safe space for Zimmy until now. He doesn't know about the whole Jeanne thing.
This guy and Jenny are obsessed with Zimmy. She's the one they base their decisions on. They go out of their way to protect HER, specifically. So when Zimmy says "you're betraying me Annie", why should they listen to Annie instead of Zimmy? For all we know, Annie IS a pawn of the Court, albeit against her knowledge.
And, while THEY know exactly how their spell works, they know that Annie DOESN'T know how their spell works. As I understand it, they are now thinking that Annie used them not for Zimmy's benefit but for the Court's, hoping that whatever method they were gonna use would help the Court locate Zimmy. And, for all that we know, this already happened (if the Court was keeping an eye on Annie, that is).
As for why Annie is running: personally I was expecting her to run. Two angry people, one of whom has magical powers, aren't people you want to stick around to. I actually expected Jenny to try something. My guess is that Annie (while she could probably beat Jenny) wanted to defuse the situation immediately and so she ran before they had time to process what's going on.
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Post by Ophel on Jan 20, 2023 14:16:50 GMT
... I don't like where this is going. I could imagine them messing with the omega device could make things go pear shaped in different ways. It may cause the court to find Zimmy faster, getting to her first. It might cause Zimmy to go haywire, as others suggest. It might cause the start of... Divine Kat 😥 Well, I guess i kinda called it out. In terms of people's worries. ------ I suppose this is the beginning of the endgame? |
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Post by mturtle7 on Jan 20, 2023 17:50:48 GMT
Do we even know if the students have cellphones? We've assumed they must have, but how many times have we ever actually seen anyone in this comic use a cellphone? I mean aside from Jones, when Anthony's message came thru as a phone call to Annie. I'm drawing a blank. The comic started in 2005, before the idea of smartphones (iPhone was released 2007)and I think about 4-5 years has passed in comic time since then, although it was being written as if it was a history back then (I think that idea has been dropped though). GC has always been in a sort of semi not-real time period to me, which feels a bit like early 2000s with some modern references thrown in (such as the video game references in the side comics), so the lack of phones doesn't throw me too much See, I feel like keeping smartphones out of your comic as much as possible USED to help make it feel timeless, but after a certain point I think a *lack* of smartphones starts to become more noticeable than their obvious presence would be. |
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Post by yellowb on Jan 21, 2023 2:05:50 GMT
They didn't have to be smart phones, just cell phones, which everyone had by 2005. Even most 11-12 year olds. Or was that just in Finland? (I'm from Finland)
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 21, 2023 3:41:40 GMT
It's not a cellphone but we did see Kat with an MP3 player way back in ch. 18. They didn't have to be smart phones, just cell phones, which everyone had by 2005. Even most 11-12 year olds. Or was that just in Finland? (I'm from Finland) I held off getting a cellphone for a long time because I knew other people wanted to use it for a leash but I think I got my first around 2007 and was the last of my friends to have one. I remember my uncle getting a mobile phone back in the late 1980s to early 1990s; it was a big unit that nearly the size of a thick briefcase. He gave it to me when he got another and I think it's still in my mom's attic or garage somewhere next to some very old gaming systems. Before that were the pagers. In the 1970s-1980s people were impressed whenever a pager went off because it meant an important person was present... but then in the late 1980s they started handing them out to just anybody. The point being that some sort of mobile communications tech like a mobile phone or better was within the Court's reach from Antimony's first day there. |
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Post by warrl on Jan 21, 2023 18:48:44 GMT
And, while THEY know exactly how their spell works, they know that Annie DOESN'T know how their spell works. So why did Jenny choose to cast it so close to the star ocean? And why did they blame Annie specifically for that choice? |
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Post by laaaa on Jan 21, 2023 19:08:54 GMT
And, while THEY know exactly how their spell works, they know that Annie DOESN'T know how their spell works. So why did Jenny choose to cast it so close to the star ocean? And why did they blame Annie specifically for that choice? My guess is that they thought that a) Annie was hoping their spell would allow her (and by extention the Court) to realize where Zimmy was irl or b) Annie was hoping that by contacting Zimmy close to the star ocean, a part of Zimy's essence or something would be connected to the star ocean, allowing it to start siphoning her powers. Admitedly, if Annie e.g. carried a hidden device on her person for that purpose or if she was closely watched by the Court, those things are not off the realm of possibility. When Jenny cast her spell she didn't believe anyone from the Court was closely watching their every move, ready to pounce on the opportunity to locate Zimmy/siphon her powers. Edit: I admit that it feels like I'm retroactively grasping at straws to explain their behavior, but I still think it CAN make sense, from their point of view. Honestly, the only thing that confuses me is the whole star ocean thing. I can't understand how it works and what it's made of. I thought of it as a literal ocean, but Loup was getting sicker by getting close to it (and he seemed to know beforehand that this would happen, the whole "I can't even get close, why did I ask Annie to go there with me?!"). The Court didn't know Loup was approaching, which meant that the star ocean was calibrated to start using him the moment he came close enough. Yet Zimmy being contacted close to it didn't affect her. But... Jack and Jenny thought that Annie would think it would affect Zimmy? We, the readers, had reason to fear this might happen (after seeing the affect it had on Loup) but... why would Jack and Jenny think that Annie (or anyone) thought that Zimmy getting close to the star ocean would automatically do something??? Do THEY know how the star ocean works?? Honestly I thought the star ocean would be like road or a literal ocean, not an automatic siphon of power. Oh well. Edit 2: Okay, I went back and chdcked, Kat KNOWS the Star Ocean functions as a giant ether siphon for the being it's calibrated for. Which means this was explained in the creepy ocean meeting. Which in turn means Jack, Jenny, and everyone else knows. So yeah, Jack and Jenny thought that Annie thought that by contacting Zimmy close to the ocean, it would start siphoning her ether and that this was her goal all along. |
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Post by sleepcircle on Jan 23, 2023 19:46:51 GMT
i feel like either tom really isn't focused on his writing or that we're still in a zimmy distortion because i feel like nobody has been talking like a human being for the past page or so.
honestly i've felt a bit like that in general lately--the past few months to a y ear--maybe something is stressing him out IRL, idk. i find pretty much all the characters less empathetic than i used to though. not empathetic like i think they all act like sociopaths or anything, but less empathetic in that i can empathize with them less? like they are less driven by emotions and more by the fact that he needs the plot to go a certain way? idk. it's bumming me out.
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Post by philman on Jan 27, 2023 9:00:55 GMT
They didn't have to be smart phones, just cell phones, which everyone had by 2005. Even most 11-12 year olds. Or was that just in Finland? (I'm from Finland) Being fair, the home of Nokia HAD to be ahead of the curve back at their height in the early 2000s! But yes I would expect them to have normal mobile phones given I assume this to take place in the 200s, but modern smart phones would feel ahead of the time, despite the ether technology |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 28, 2023 12:11:09 GMT
It took an eternity but I eventually managed to find an instance of someone using a (cell?)phone or at absolute minimum a pager to communicate with someone else from the Court. And I could have found it much sooner if I'd just kept reading from that link you provided for him scrolling. It's Andrew again. |
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