heranje
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Post by heranje on Dec 20, 2022 10:47:26 GMT
Huh. Maybe they try to study the era of gentlemen in Steam Locomotive Halloween Suits (late ⅩⅨ to early ⅩⅩ century) and then go “O-o-okay, that was a bit too much. What was before?.. Nice, but logistically impossible. Let’s look at the next”?  I think it's more along the lines of - you want to start wearing colour and get into a "lighter" style, but you still don't want to be "normie" with modern fashion, and you're used to dressing in a way that calls attention to yourself so why not go full 50s/60s vintage? |
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Post by arf on Dec 20, 2022 11:26:55 GMT
I would say that Jenny is still 'getting over herself'.
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 20, 2022 13:23:37 GMT
Upon looking into the matter, it’s not quite Twin Peaks eatery (Norma / Shelly / Annie) uniform. Compare: 1 2 3. But the style is similar, too. On a more philosophical side: My first impression was that it resembles a flight attendant uniform or something. To think of it, that’s probably how this style went out of fashion. And maybe some other styles on “more practical” side. I actually really liked Jenny's look from the Torn Sea, calling it "generic goth" seems kind of unnecessarily harsh. It was pretty much “generic goth”, however (not really generic in that it was specifically an imitation of Zimmy as well). It just looks much better on some people than others. So does almost everything else. |
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Post by rosebud on Dec 20, 2022 21:47:59 GMT
The real surprise for everyone is when Zimmy shows up as a blonde.
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Post by saardvark on Dec 20, 2022 23:42:34 GMT
I actually really liked Jenny's look from the Torn Sea, calling it "generic goth" seems kind of unnecessarily harsh. I am also highly skeptical of Jenny's claim that her change in style counts as "getting over herself". Feels to me like she's implying that the goth thing was just a desperate ploy for attention, while this ultra-femme 50s vintage style is her natural, casual, look. Kind of uncannily like Shell - "I only wear it when I don't care how I look". Sure, girl. Suuuuuure. I'm with you, I liked her goth look and didn't think it was all that generic. Her personality wasn't goth-like either! She was pretty bubbly and positive really.
Now, I can't look at her without thinking of Fallout.  yeah, she had the Goth look but with an anti-Goth personality... she wasn't mopey or gloomy-doomy at all. |
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Post by furubafan3 on Dec 21, 2022 0:24:26 GMT
As an ex goth girl who went full vintage in University, I just nodded and said "This tracks"
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 21, 2022 1:31:28 GMT
yeah, she had the Goth look but with an anti-Goth personality... she wasn't mopey or gloomy-doomy at all. This doesn’t seem too uncommon… eventually, anyway. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Dec 21, 2022 19:11:50 GMT
I'm with you, I liked her goth look and didn't think it was all that generic. Her personality wasn't goth-like either! She was pretty bubbly and positive really.
Now, I can't look at her without thinking of Fallout. yeah, she had the Goth look but with an anti-Goth personality... she wasn't mopey or gloomy-doomy at all. The "Perky Goth" is actually a pretty well-established aesthetic/subculture, to the point where it didn't even occur to me to comment on it! To quote the TV Tropes page (not putting a link to it, since I know some people really try to avoid getting sucked into that site), "the Perky Goth, who is almost always female, operates on the principle that dark does not always mean depressing"; also, "to emphasize: perky goth is an acknowledged part of the goth subculture, not just something made up by media." Gilly from Dork Tower is pretty much the ideal example of this, to my mind. |
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Post by rylfrazier on Dec 22, 2022 6:52:07 GMT
Goth isn't "gloomy doomy" the goth asthenic was borderline created by the Sandman "Death" character and she's very chipper. Being goth is more about a morbid / dark appearance and a willingness to take morbid or dark positions. The "ugh mopey" is more of a negative stereotype from people outside the group.
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Post by saardvark on Dec 22, 2022 19:36:24 GMT
Goth isn't "gloomy doomy" the goth asthenic was borderline created by the Sandman "Death" character and she's very chipper. Being goth is more about a morbid / dark appearance and a willingness to take morbid or dark positions. The "ugh mopey" is more of a negative stereotype from people outside the group. Apologies, no offense intended. It seems I have absorbed some negative Goth stereotypes by accident. I sit, corrected. I've always loved the "Death" character, but having read it sometime after was written, I had always assumed that Gaiman was playing off the Goth idea rather than helping birth it! |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 30, 2022 17:31:49 GMT
The out-of-Universe reason for the new look is more obvious than usually: avoid an obvious attempt to reuse same old trick («That’s… not Subject Zeta.»—«ZAP!»)
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