[2713] "...it was calibrated for Coyote."

[saardvark]

wait - Im missing something - how does Kat know that Loup can't go to the ocean?

[smurfton]

Couldn't it also be the seed bismuth? It was strong enough to make the Court, they probably know where it is, and it's not something they'd necessarily want to use

[silicondream]

Nov 30, 2022 21:29:07 GMT drmemory said:

Heck, do we really know that Renard has a lot of etheric power? We really haven't seen him do that much! His body-changing-through-eyes power came from Coyote and we have no reason to believe it takes a lot of power to use, and we've always been told he doesn't care about power and is more of a sneaky prankster type. He can enter the ether and act there but we really have no reason to believe he's carrying around a big glob of ether, like Coyote.

Renard is probably etherically stronger than Annie or most of of the Chester House students, since he was able to remove the Court wards that they couldn't remove during "the Torn Sea."  But no, we've never seen him produce effects on Zimmy's scale, let alone Coyote's.

[saardvark]

Nov 30, 2022 21:29:07 GMT drmemory said:

A lot depends on just when it was reconfigured! It clearly affected Loup when he got close to it on the train. Maglev? You know what I mean.

So if it wasn't reconfigured until after Loup's Big Adventure (LBA), then this might be the clue that blows Jerrek's cover, allowing Annie to figure out where Loup is hiding. In that case, it might also be that those thinking it is reconfigured for Zimmy are correct.

If it was reconfigured before the train ride, then the reconfiguration didn't do what Kat thinks, and Loup is not off the hook.

I assume people are thinking it was reconfigured for Zimmy because she noticed something changed. We saw that just after LBA but there is timey wimey stuff sometimes and we don't know for sure that's the order things happened in, nor how long passed in between. At the time, I kinda thought she sensed the change in Loup for some reason, but I guess this makes more sense - Zimmy would care more about things that directly affected her or Gamma.

I'm inclined to take what Kat said at face value - either it's true or it's what she really believes. Still. Did the court reps tell her that the ocean was configured to suck Coyote dry, or did she deduce that? Did they tell her about the reconfiguration? If so, what specifically did they say? Heck, do we really know that Renard has a lot of etheric power? We really haven't seen him do that much! His body-changing-through-eyes power came from Coyote and we have no reason to believe it takes a lot of power to use, and we've always been told he doesn't care about power and is more of a sneaky prankster type. He can enter the ether and act there but we really have no reason to believe he's carrying around a big glob of ether, like Coyote.

What I'm poking at here is that what she says could be true but she may not be correct about every part of it, due to just not knowing. Even if the court reps specifically told her the ocean was previously configured to suck Coyote's power and had been reconfigured, that doesn't mean they are telling the truth, but it also could be true and still not contradict the ocean affecting Zimmy and not Renard, depending on their real innate power levels. We know Zimmy gathers up ether but can't generally do anything with it, like a broken power station, but we don't know anything about Renard's relationship to the ether.

Yeah, the timing is important here.  If it was recalibrated for Zimmy, why was Loup still affected?  Prior to the supposed Zim-recal, it was calibrated for Coyote... so Loup is affected because he is partly Coyote(?). Unless the recal was quite recent, and then perhaps now it is no longer affecting Loup (and Jerrek) (?). I guess time will tell....

EDIT: or quite simply, is *Loup* the new target?  (Considering him as at least partly distinct of Coyote)

[rabbit]

You know, I had a really terrible thought about the reconfiguration.

Kat's statement "can you think of anything in the Forest that can do something similar to Coyote?" is certainly leading. The obvious answer seems to be "Well, not in the Forest..." And the assumption that follows is that Zimmy is the next most powerful etheric entity and the Court's new target.

But what if she isn't? The person who we have seen have power over Zimmy (though wielded for benign purposes) and able to easily enter the ether (her conversation with Rey) is Gamma. If she is the real target, we may be about to witness Zimmageddon.

[drmemory]

Dumb question - is that really Kat? I can't think of any precedent for the court imitating someone or controlling them, but frankly, it feels like Kat has a lot of information that it doesn't really seem like she should have, and she is asking slightly odd questions.

It's probably fine...