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Post by speedwell on Aug 31, 2022 8:44:54 GMT
I don't think it was Antimony at all, or her fall from the bridge. Remember who the nascent time manipulator and tech goddess is here. The trigger event that day was caused by the Tic-Tocs as an agent of Kat's, not by Annie.
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Post by todd on Aug 31, 2022 12:44:19 GMT
I don't think it was Antimony at all, or her fall from the bridge. Remember who the nascent time manipulator and tech goddess is here. The trigger event that day was caused by the Tic-Tocs as an agent of Kat's, not by Annie. Yes, but the statement blaming Annie for it was made by a character in the story who doesn't know about Kat's involvement with the Tic-Tocs. The Court is unaware of the whole story, unlike the readers, and is therefore interpreting events differently than we are. |
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Post by speedwell on Aug 31, 2022 13:02:01 GMT
I don't think it was Antimony at all, or her fall from the bridge. Remember who the nascent time manipulator and tech goddess is here. The trigger event that day was caused by the Tic-Tocs as an agent of Kat's, not by Annie. Yes, but the statement blaming Annie for it was made by a character in the story who doesn't know about Kat's involvement with the Tic-Tocs. The Court is unaware of the whole story, unlike the readers, and is therefore interpreting events differently than we are. That doesn't invalidate what I said. |
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Post by drmemory on Aug 31, 2022 21:52:04 GMT
It does seem as if the Court is unaware that the Tic-tocs saved Annie when she fell off the bridge... but wouldn't they have asked her "How did you survive that fall?" I can't imagine why they wouldn't have asked her that. They didn't need to, she told everyone they did in the "Fangs of Summertime". I dunno. If I were a Court higher-up, my thinking would go "The Tic-tocs have been around for a long time, Excpet they don't know that. We only know it becuase the robots told Annie in "Sky Watcher and the Angel". The general court population has never been shown to have learned this, not even Kat. Then again, if nobody had ever fallen off the bridge before, maybe they thought the Tic-tocs might be some sort of lifeguards that would have saved anyone who fell off the bridge and it was simply happenstance that she was the first one who fell?
Except Omega would have predicted that if that was the case.
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Edit* Fixed some typos, corrected a mistake, and added sources.
On page 646, which you refer to above, the robot that told Annie about the mythical ornithonics also stated they were said to be older than the court itself. I don't remember the tic-tocs showing up that long ago, during the Norn chapter. We saw them being drawn to Zimmy a lot but that's about as far back as they went - which isn't nearly as long ago as the founding of the court.
Makes me wonder whether the robots (or their creators) might not know about other timelines? We know that Kat was "younger than usual" when she met the Norns, and that she usually had a mechanical bird, so I could easily believe there were birds that were used for other purposes in other timelines.
Perhaps that's why Coyote killed the birb as soon as Annie was saved - to keep Kat and the crew from exploring further.
Perhaps we just aren't done with timey-wimey stuff and tic-tocs, but this feels to me more like Coyote iterating timelines and events until he got a set that he liked, for reasons we do not know at present. It isn't the only evidence of possible cross-timeline contamination we've seen - see the hairclip and possible Annie corpse in the river mentioned previously. 
I doubt that continuity details are big on Coyote's priority list. He seems to be trying to achieve a specific outcome.
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Post by todd on Sept 2, 2022 13:54:09 GMT
If what prompted the Court's decision to relocate to another planet was indeed the ether interfering with the Omega Device, it indicates that they were lying about this being their plan from the beginning. First, the bridge incident happened just a few years before, while the Court's presumably been around for generations. Second, the Court would need time to notice that the Omega Device's predictions were becoming faulty, and then to track down the reason for it (the TicTocs rescuing Annie). (Unless, of course, the discovery of the Omega Device's problems simply caused them to speed up their plans rather than to put them in action.) Which would support the notion that the Court is engaged in cover-up again - they don't want to mention the Omega Device or that it's malfunctioning.
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