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Post by jda on Apr 16, 2022 1:44:22 GMT
Both are already more than meets the eye. of course Loup's trickery would make them icons of deception. Decept-icons, if you will. I find this one a bit forced, but
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Post by jda on Apr 16, 2022 1:45:37 GMT
Annie on last panel: Zero f_ks given
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 16, 2022 2:02:09 GMT
I-it's not like I'm really into her, baka... Haha, I came here to post the exact same thing. Same here. So… Loup earned the title of "Tsunderwolf" now?
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Post by aline on Apr 16, 2022 16:26:57 GMT
I don't see Annie doing anything more than being nice and humoring a young person. He has a visible crush on her but she's just being friendly. If she knew, she would be in a very different mood. And we all know what a masterful seductress she was with Jack so I find it hilarious that some people assume she's making Loup fall in love with her. He's doing that all on his own. And Annie has shown in the past that she can be extremely oblivious of other people's emotional turmoil, so... Annie is older and more mature now. And in the past three years, her experience of romantic relationships went from zero to zero. She blushed at Kamlen and almost kissed Jack that one time, and that's pretty much all she knows about love. How is she supposed to have become a seductress? Surma was very different in that regard, and afaik she was already an adult with an active love life in the scene with Renard. And again, all Annie did was smile at a boy in a friendly way... Women don't become a seductress just because men react to them a certain way. If she knew, she would be in a very different mood. And what is that very different mood? Angry, on her guard, afraid? Not sure, but she looks very relaxed in that scene and that doesn't compute with knowingly interracting with a homicidal god intent on destruction, not even counting Coyote's statement that he would "force" Annie to kill Loup. Also if it's a covert operation it's a very lousy one. She told him what she knew about the Omega device and got zero information in return.
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Post by maxptc on Apr 16, 2022 17:05:53 GMT
Angry, on her guard, afraid? Not sure, but she looks very relaxed in that scene and that doesn't compute with knowingly interracting with a homicidal god intent on destruction, not even counting Coyote's statement that he would "force" Annie to kill Loup. Also if it's a covert operation it's a very lousy one. She told him what she knew about the Omega device and got zero information in return. Annie is pretty good at being relaxed in situations with powerful things that could kill her, particularly if the interaction isn’t a combative one. I've said before that Annie isn't going to be eager or even willing to kill Loup just because Coyete said so, so the plan may be more complex then "let's sneak up and stab him". If we accept that Annie knows what is what, this move makes sense if the team is trying for a non violent resolution. While they didn't gain any information, they did teach Loup about Omega, as well as computers. Perhaps that was the plan, letting Loup know about Omega. I can accept that Annie would talk about Omega freely with anyone she trusts, and I don't think she is aware of Loup. Still "hey stranger let me ask you about a super secret project" is a great way to give information to someone while framing it as innocently bouncing an idea around. I'm not convinced Annie knows Loup is flirting with her, let alone that he is Jerrek. But the possibility of her knowing definitely exists and this chapter is absolutely playing to that. Edit- Completly agree with the top half of your post.
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Post by dramastix on Apr 16, 2022 22:19:20 GMT
Anyone else reminded of The Last Unicorn? As mentioned above, the mind is influenced by the shape the body is in. In this very own narrative Coyote has explained a few times that the main risk of shapeshifting is the influence that the shape of the body has over the mind. He himself almost was lost once to be a body of water because he was forgetting he was a living creature. True that. Enjoying the parallels, though; I'm sure there are multiple other examples out there.
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Post by mturtle7 on Apr 16, 2022 23:11:16 GMT
Also if it's a covert operation it's a very lousy one. She told him what she knew about the Omega device and got zero information in return. I'm, like, 75% sure at this point that this wasn't a covert operation, but I was also under the impression that Annie did learn some new information here, or at least get some new & valuable insights into the nature of Omega and its operation, which is (supposedly) why she was talking to "Jerrek" about all this in the first place. Namely, she learned about the need for abstraction and the inaccuracy that naturally causes, the increase in accuracy when measuring an enclosed & ordered system, and fundamental problems ether would cause, and the existential horror a completely successful Omega Device could actually create. Her reactions would seem to indicate she hadn't thought of any this before, at least not quite in the way that "Jerrek" is describing it. And while Kat probably could have helped her a bit with the science side of things, and maybe Anja could have helped explain the ether issue, I think Loup's ability to explain all this is actually pretty unique, as a purely Etheric being that used to know nothing about science and then suddenly gained an expert's knowledge all at once.
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Post by Isildur on Apr 18, 2022 16:53:27 GMT
Haha, I came here to post the exact same thing. Same here. So… Loup earned the title of "Tsunderwolf" now? (At the risk of betraying my age a bit...) Tsunder, tsunder, TSUNDERWOLF LOUUUUUUUUP!
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Post by Isildur on Apr 18, 2022 17:24:16 GMT
In this very own narrative Coyote has explained a few times that the main risk of shapeshifting is the influence that the shape of the body has over the mind. He himself almost was lost once to be a body of water because he was forgetting he was a living creature. True that. Enjoying the parallels, though; I'm sure there are multiple other examples out there. One Mori ( in the on-page comments the other day) also pointed out how Reynard has acted differently according to form.
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