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Post by rafk on Jan 25, 2022 9:45:22 GMT
Didn't see that coming. Well played, Tom.
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Post by blahzor on Jan 25, 2022 11:24:38 GMT
For a creature who has ultimate control over their body there's a chance that Loup wasn't bothering doing the same in this NP form and got telling signs he normally wouldn't I.E. the blushing
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Post by mavis on Jan 25, 2022 12:16:52 GMT
I'd just like to express my thanks to the group. Never mind didn't see it coming; I didn't see it go by! Completely missed the red and black dot next to the eye being an indication of Loup; thought it was some funky robot/new people remote observation tech. But the ear! the canine! Completely missed that  I'm blaming hectic work day. |
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Post by DonDueed on Jan 25, 2022 19:24:03 GMT
I'd just like to express my thanks to the group. Never mind didn't see it coming; I didn't see it go by! Completely missed the red and black dot next to the eye being an indication of Loup; thought it was some funky robot/new people remote observation tech. But the ear! the canine! Completely missed that  I'm blaming hectic work day. Haha, no worries mavis! I've lost count of all the things I've missed in this comic. I'm not the only one, either -- the whole "Things I Noticed On Reread" thread is all in on that.
And welcome to the forum, in case nobody else said that!
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Post by davidm on Jan 25, 2022 23:53:25 GMT
Red and Blue (fairies) were transferred into humans after they "passed the test"/died. Possible Loup used same ability to transfer himself.
He also split Annie and likely like Zimmy had power to merge Annie after. So if he had no other way and wanted to share, he could have split timeline for a New Human, let one side of timeline get the robot person, other one got him instead then merge timelines to merge personalities if he wanted to share body with a robot.
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Post by mordekai on Jan 26, 2022 0:15:27 GMT
How come Loup isn't reacting to Kat? Can't he see the Robotic Eldritch Horror?
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Post by davidm on Jan 26, 2022 0:16:44 GMT
I'd just like to express my thanks to the group. Never mind didn't see it coming; I didn't see it go by! Completely missed the red and black dot next to the eye being an indication of Loup; thought it was some funky robot/new people remote observation tech. But the ear! the canine! Completely missed that I'm blaming hectic work day. Also the pointy teeth. |
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Post by davidm on Jan 26, 2022 0:23:08 GMT
How come Loup isn't reacting to Kat? Can't he see the Robotic Eldritch Horror? He's hitching a ride in "New People", he probably was well aware of Kat long before he was listening in. At end of Kat and robot bird saving Annie falling off bridge near beginning of story, Coyote was there to smash the robot bird. Coyote said that when Loup finally got to know Coyotes big plan he would agree it was a good plan. Kat is likely a part of Coyotes big plan, with Loup in Kat's creation, as likely known in advance by Coyote. ... Its possible Kat is the core of the courts omega device, and the shadow girls right now helping team Annie and Kat are there at manipulation of court to help bring Kat to the desired end point. And coyote knows this and is throwing in his own influence to change the outcome. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 26, 2022 1:11:51 GMT
Kat may not look like a mecha angel to "Loup" in the ether. She probably looks like *something* but I'm not sure what that would be.
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Post by maxptc on Jan 26, 2022 2:23:47 GMT
How come Loup isn't reacting to Kat? Can't he see the Robotic Eldritch Horror? I personally think its because this instance of Kat (this timelines Kat) is only in Robot God mode when using the arrow to interact with the ether. She isn't that all the time yet. Her being just Kat in the Realm of the Dead is why I think this. |
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Post by Ophel on Jan 26, 2022 4:24:14 GMT
Well, i have a thought on how Loup and Jerrek can be seperate:
You know how robots get an ocean when they transfer over? We don't know what the process of transferring over actually is in practice.
It might take a while after the decision is made. It might not require supervision.
So what if the transfer was (still) taking place while the attack happened? Loup is aware of what's happening over at Kat's place. So he decides to take advantage by, not complete take over, but by hiding in the ocean that is Jerrek's mind.
In short, we have a case of Jekyll and Hyde, or Jerrek and Loup, split personalities. In this situation, Jerrek is completely unaware, but Loup very much is.
There's a lot of assumptions here, of course.
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Another possibility is using a similar ability where Coyote forces / influences Yssengrin to attack Annie that one time, while Ysengrin doesn't know why it happened.
Loup might control / influence Jerrek in a similar manner but, with greater nuanced control afforded by being directly inside another Jerrek's mind, Jerrek is prevented Loup from being even aware of what he's doing, unlike Ysengrin questioning, as in being aware, why he attacked Annie that time.
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 26, 2022 9:45:36 GMT
Red and Blue (fairies) were transferred into humans after they "passed the test"/died. Possible Loup used same ability to transfer himself. Makes sense, considering the Court was taught the ritual by Coyote. All it needs is a soul totem and a mindless body. |
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Post by blahzor on Jan 26, 2022 12:01:18 GMT
How come Loup isn't reacting to Kat? Can't he see the Robotic Eldritch Horror? I personally think its because this instance of Kat (this timelines Kat) is only in Robot God mode when using the arrow to interact with the ether. She isn't that all the time yet. Her being just Kat in the Realm of the Dead is why I think this. Except she would always be Mecha Angel because she will be. Even Annie never saw her as one until certain conditions. Zimmy always or almost always see's her that way because there's levels to the vision. Just like Annie has seen things she previously couldn't |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 26, 2022 20:01:23 GMT
I don't think "Loup" knows much at all about human technology and probably doesn't care much about it either (though since the Court nearly succeeded in sucking away Coyote's power perhaps he's starting to care) because with etheric power he has better/faster ways of doing things. Kat may look just like a typical human wizard to him when/if he looks at her in the ether but I doubt she looks like an imposing mecha angel (yet, unless he looks at her in just the right way). Possibly she looks like a Rube Goldberg angel?
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Post by jda on Jan 26, 2022 20:49:22 GMT
How come Loup isn't reacting to Kat? Can't he see the Robotic Eldritch Horror? This isn't even her final form. |
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Post by Gemminie on Jan 26, 2022 21:55:20 GMT
(Again, I'm posting my impressions without reading anyone else's first.) After expressing that those who remain behind will be on their own with the Court gone, Annie states that they still have Loup to deal with – he's somewhere, and they don't know where. But Annie's in some sort of photoinverse color with some strange line fringes like echoes. Then we see Jerrek, with a fang, a furry and pointed ear, and the eye effect we see when Coyote and Loup are extending their senses. It seems that Loup is either inhabiting Jerrek or has transformed himself into Jerrek – was there ever a real Jerrek, then? Did Loup waylay him and take his place? It seems unlikely, given how technological the conversion process is, that nobody would notice an extra New Person or check into their identity and past. Automatic processes would certainly log a discrepancy, but perhaps no one's noticed it yet. I think it's more likely that Loup either killed the original "Jerrek" (or whatever he called himself) and has taken his place, or he's somehow possessing or inhabiting Jerrek's body. Loup's been listening in on this entire conversation. What has he learned that he didn't know before? Perhaps the bit about the Court pulling up stakes and leaving for another place. What would Loup think about that? He wants to get revenge on the Court, but if they're going somewhere there's no Ether, he's got a limited time in which to do that. Or will he find it sufficient to attack those whom the Court leaves behind? It seems to me that would be unsatisfying, but who knows? In any case, Lana runs up and remarks on his not getting a haircut. Before she can see anything, he changes his eye and ear back to normal and says he's decided to just keep it pulled back for now. That's either Loup dissembling or the original Jerrek speaking. And ... chapter end! Crazy stuff! I had been thinking that the chapter seemed to have completely transitioned away from Lana and Jerrek and moved to this conversation with Shell, but no, there was a reason to introduce Lana and Jerrek; we came back to them. So, what's Loup's plan here? Will he try to do something before the Court completely leaves? Or will he stay hidden until after it does? Will he keep up this disguise, or will he switch to other ones? As for those left behind, what is their life going to be like without the Court to provide for them? Will they still get an education? Will they be living in anarchy? The terrain the Court is leaving behind is vast and must require a lot of upkeep. Without robots to do it, will it decay? There will be former Court humans with etheric abilities and former Forest denizens living there; how will they get along? What about the former Forest denizens who are now in human bodies; will they be left behind? Almost certainly they will be. Big changes are ahead! |
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 27, 2022 22:18:00 GMT
How come Loup isn't reacting to Kat? Can't he see the Robotic Eldritch Horror? Renard, all the ex-fairies and animals, and all other supernatural beings Kat has met (Mort, Basil, all the psychopomps) can't see it either. Annie and Paz could each see it only once, under special circumstances (and it appears Annie could not see it when Paz could). Zimmy seems to be the only one who can see it constantly.
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Post by mturtle7 on Jan 31, 2022 17:41:47 GMT
How come Loup isn't reacting to Kat? Can't he see the Robotic Eldritch Horror? Renard, all the ex-fairies and animals, and all other supernatural beings Kat has met (Mort, Basil, all the psychopomps) can't see it either. Annie and Paz could each see it only once, under special circumstances (and it appears Annie could not see it when Paz could). Zimmy seems to be the only one who can see it constantly.
Yeah, contrary to what a lot of readers thought at first, Eldritch Mecha Kat isn't actually what Kat looks like in the Ether...or rather, it is, but only on the incredibly rare occasion that she personally & actively enters the Ether. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure she just looks like a normal person in the Ether, sort of like how, say, Renard looks like a normal wolf when his etheric form isn't active. |
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Post by crater on Feb 2, 2022 22:29:48 GMT
"thank you for reading my comic about gods deciding if they should get a hair cut"
also that top panel is so sick one of the coolest pages in this whole comic
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