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Post by V on May 17, 2021 7:02:24 GMT
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Post by aline on May 17, 2021 7:06:45 GMT
Annie dgaf about the Tony haters
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 17, 2021 7:07:29 GMT
Is that true, though? Does she really not care? I think she means that she loves her father no matter what people say.
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Post by madjack on May 17, 2021 7:08:53 GMT
Title should read [2468] Annie been taking Ys' lessons to heart? Edit: Those thicker lines around her hair really feel like a deliberate throwback to the old Annie. |
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Post by aline on May 17, 2021 7:17:55 GMT
Looks good.  Is that true, though? Does she really not care? I think she means that she loves her father no matter what people say. I think she means what she said. Not just that she loves him anyway, but that she has no time to waste on the opinions of other people, even people she likes like Parley. Good for her. Running after the rumor mill can get exhausting quickly. And her relationship with her dad is her business. |
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Post by flowsthead on May 17, 2021 7:18:59 GMT
Looks good. Is that true, though? Does she really not care? I think she means that she loves her father no matter what people say. I think she means what she said. Not just that she loves him anyway, but that she has no time to waste on the opinions of other people, even people she likes like Parley. Good for her. Running after the rumor mill can get exhausting quickly. And her relationship with her dad is her business. That would be very in character considering her friendships with Ysengrin and Renard and Zimmy. |
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Post by Refugee on May 17, 2021 7:25:35 GMT
I think she means what she said. nod-nod She's thought about this, hard and long. She's glad to say this. Note that she's not saying she thinks her Father is perfect. She's saying she doesn't care about what other people think about him. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 17, 2021 7:33:22 GMT
I think she means what she said. Not just that she loves him anyway, but that she has no time to waste on the opinions of other people, even people she likes like Parley. Good for her. Running after the rumor mill can get exhausting quickly. And her relationship with her dad is her business. That would be very in character considering her friendships with Ysengrin and Renard and Zimmy. I dunno guys, if you love someone then it's probably natural to care when other people hate/dislike them. When Kamlin said Ys wasn't right in the head Antimony did say Ys was her friend... Not quite defending him but she did seem to feel the need to say something. |
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Post by Per on May 17, 2021 7:45:15 GMT
I think she means that she loves her father no matter what people say. Everything's gonna be A-OK! |
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Post by flowsthead on May 17, 2021 7:51:59 GMT
That would be very in character considering her friendships with Ysengrin and Renard and Zimmy. I dunno guys, if you love someone then it's probably natural to care when other people hate/dislike them. When Kamlin said Ys wasn't right in the head Antimony did say Ys was her friend... Not quite defending him but she did seem to feel the need to say something. Maybe a little bit defensive, but also declarative. He is her friend, and probably Kamlen doesn't know that, and he probably doesn't have any other friends really. |
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Post by arf on May 17, 2021 8:10:09 GMT
Yep! That's kids of today: they just do not care about anybody!*
* (Don't tell my daughter I said this!)
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Post by V on May 17, 2021 8:19:00 GMT
Whoopsie, fixed. At least the link was right. I dunno guys, if you love someone then it's probably natural to care when other people hate/dislike them. When Kamlin said Ys wasn't right in the head Antimony did say Ys was her friend... Not quite defending him but she did seem to feel the need to say something. Maybe a little bit defensive, but also declarative. He is her friend, and probably Kamlen doesn't know that, and he probably doesn't have any other friends really. I think she's more or less equally defensive with her other unpopular friends, but it shows more when they are directly attacked or slandered. (With Kamlen it was more of a calm-voiced exchange of opinions.) Regarding her father, I think she had her opportunities with her friends and she may consider the case closed. Or maybe she remembers quite well the time when she was basically on their side and they were defending him, and realized that it would be best for them to see for themselves, or leave them with their opinion, rather than try and sway them in the opposite direction again. Also one substantial difference between Tony and the other guys is that in the case of Zimmy and Ysengrin Annie is almost the only one in regular contact with them. So in her eyes, others are acting upon very superficial information and need to be told more before judging. With Renard it's no longer like this, but used to be. Anyway as he started to be more sociable the negative general perception of him is mostly gone. |
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Post by guntherkrieg on May 17, 2021 10:20:12 GMT
In which Annie tells, not shows, her character development.
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Post by descoladavirus on May 17, 2021 10:39:59 GMT
I'm glad to see Annie letting her own experiences shine through and not what everyone else thinks.
It kinda sucks that his mind is a trap for his emotions, but she knows what he feels inside the trap at least thanks to her time as two Annie.
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Post by lisanela on May 17, 2021 10:45:30 GMT
I love the art in the last panel! What a change from this too. I wonder what Jones will say to all this (maybe nothing?? She hasn't been talking much this whole chapter). I keep picturing Tony listening to all this with his ear against the door like in a Hollywood movie but realistically he's probably just cooking dinner with Reynard. |
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Post by ohthatone on May 17, 2021 10:54:21 GMT
She understands why others dont like her father but she isn't going to let them color her picture of tony for her.
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Post by mynie on May 17, 2021 11:24:27 GMT
I got the impression that she no longer cares what anyone cares about her father because she no longer cares about her father the way she used to
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Post by pyradonis on May 17, 2021 12:48:36 GMT
I love the art in the last panel! What a change from this too. I wonder what Jones will say to all this (maybe nothing?? She hasn't been talking much this whole chapter). I keep picturing Tony listening to all this with his ear against the door like in a Hollywood movie but realistically he's probably just cooking dinner with Reynard. Just had a thought: Could Renard listen in without Annie knowing through his special Familiar connection? |
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Post by Gemminie on May 17, 2021 12:57:52 GMT
Annie is again speaking while facing away from Jones. Until the final and largest frame we don't see her face either. In the second frame we see Jones too, still watching and listening passively, still letting Annie monologue. Today she's on about how other people hate her dad, about how they say bad things about him.
And then in the final and largest frame she turns to Jones (and the camera) and says she doesn't care. But in context, this could be interpreted multiple ways. I suspect she means that what other people say about Tony won't change how she feels about him. But she could also mean that she isn't bothered or troubled by the fact that everyone hates her father, although I doubt that's what she means. That tilt or Dutch angle has reappeared in this frame, and the fact that the ends of Annie's hair, which have been hanging straight down in the previous panels, have flipped upward in this one, means that she's rather suddenly turned around. She's emphasizing her point. Her face is calm, but the flip and the tilt are making me wonder again what's going on under the surface.
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Post by blahzor on May 17, 2021 13:11:17 GMT
booo Annie
get back to Kat
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Post by madjack on May 17, 2021 13:22:06 GMT
I love the art in the last panel! What a change from this too. I wonder what Jones will say to all this (maybe nothing?? She hasn't been talking much this whole chapter). I keep picturing Tony listening to all this with his ear against the door like in a Hollywood movie but realistically he's probably just cooking dinner with Reynard. Just had a thought: Could Renard listen in without Annie knowing through his special Familiar connection? Gonna say no, based off the interaction of this page. Might not be too hard for him to guess the topic of conversation though. |
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Post by Daedalus on May 17, 2021 14:14:09 GMT
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Post by ctso74 on May 17, 2021 14:55:53 GMT
Has it been seven years? Yikes. Did not realize that. The chapter was moving along, and we came to this scene, and it seems strange. It may be from reading a "book" comic in semi-weekly form, but I keep waiting for "another shoe to drop". I'm assuming Renard would have come running out by now, if Jones had gutted Tony. |
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Post by yinglung on May 17, 2021 15:14:19 GMT
I don't want to invalidate your feelings, just provide some context. Since his arrival, Tony and Annie's relationship with him has occupied less than 1/3 of the chapters from that point onward. Notably, the Jeanne plotline got a climatic conclusion. The robot plotline advanced, giving robot an techno-organic arm, meeting Juliette and Arthur, and making a near-human body for Arthur. The thousand-eye birds plotline got resolved. We got a little more information on Coyote's goals, including experiencing death. Loup was introduced and brought a sense of looming threat and unease, and doubled Annie. We even got a little more information on what Zimmy can do. Just about the only plotline that didn't get resolved or progressed was the omega project and arguably what the psychopomps want Annie to do. Though considering the ties between the afterlife and the ether, and the ether and the omega project, it seems likely that they will be progressed together and involve each other, especially at the end. |
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Post by bicarbonat on May 17, 2021 15:25:02 GMT
[slaps 4th wall] This bad boy can hide so many frustrations
OH GOD – OH GOD, IT'S CARDBOARD
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Post by maxptc on May 17, 2021 15:53:45 GMT
I don't want to invalidate your feelings, just provide some context. Since his arrival, Tony and Annie's relationship with him has occupied less than 1/3 of the chapters from that point onward. Notably, the Jeanne plotline got a climatic conclusion. The robot plotline advanced, giving robot an techno-organic arm, meeting Juliette and Arthur, and making a near-human body for Arthur. The thousand-eye birds plotline got resolved. We got a little more information on Coyote's goals, including experiencing death. Loup was introduced and brought a sense of looming threat and unease, and doubled Annie. We even got a little more information on what Zimmy can do. Just about the only plotline that didn't get resolved or progressed was the omega project and arguably what the psychopomps want Annie to do. Though considering the ties between the afterlife and the ether, and the ether and the omega project, it seems likely that they will be progressed together and involve each other, especially at the end. Tony did stop the Freinds Robot edition storyline from progressing, which imo is the worst thing he has done. |
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Post by flowsthead on May 17, 2021 16:01:57 GMT
Which plotlines do you feel have been forgotten or neglected? |
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Post by mturtle7 on May 17, 2021 16:16:28 GMT
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Post by mitten on May 17, 2021 16:56:25 GMT
At this point, I'm mostly interested in hearing what Jones has to say. She has no emotional stake in the situation at all, after all, and she has all those eons of observing humans to draw upon. As for whether Tom cares what we think, I would assume he cares whether he can mostly have his characters be perceived the way he wants them to be perceived. Obviously we have no way of knowing how he wants us to perceive Tony, but if I were to guess I would say 'In shades of grey'.
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Post by alevice on May 17, 2021 18:29:37 GMT
TBH does Annie care about how other people feel beyond maybe Kat? I know she may have been affected by others attacks, but not to the extent she really cares about how they feel, at most how they make her feel. Which is good tbh. Its just not exclusive about how people feel towards tony
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