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Post by jda on Mar 17, 2021 17:08:23 GMT
On this stampede of non revelations and just brushing off explanations, Annie next page will meet Tony and say:
Annie "Father, don't worry, I now understand why you behave like you do with me. No need to address it anymore."
Tony: "Oh, ok."
And that would be it.
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Post by blahzor on Mar 17, 2021 17:27:59 GMT
On this stampede of non revelations and just brushing off explanations, Annie next page will meet Tony and say: Annie "Father, don't worry, I now understand why you behave like you do with me. No need to address it anymore." Tony: "Oh, ok." And that would be it. now who is this Steadman fellow..on wait here's his diary |
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Post by jda on Mar 17, 2021 17:31:26 GMT
On this stampede of non revelations and just brushing off explanations, Annie next page will meet Tony and say: Annie "Father, don't worry, I now understand why you behave like you do with me. No need to address it anymore." Tony: "Oh, ok." And that would be it. now who is this Steadman fellow..on wait here's his diary "and it shows he retired the Court before Jeanne¿s shenanigans, so he knows nothing. Ok, That'd be it" |
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 17, 2021 17:38:47 GMT
Huh.
I hadn't realised this was a thing that happened. When I read this page, I thought "What are they talking about?" until I visited the forums.
It seems last chapter the Annies recombined? I hadn't noticed. Even reading back, it's not clear to me.
I ended last chapter disappointed. It seemed like it was building up to a dramatic climax, and then nothing happened, I thought. I don't know if I'm less disappointed now (because something did happen!) or more (because something happened but I didn't even notice).
Maybe both.
You're far from alone in that sentiment! It was a peculiar and (seemingly, at least) anticlimactic way to end that story arc (if it ended – "It seems that way, yes!"). It seems Zimmy did something, but we've got no information about exactly what. I'm hoping for an explanation, preferably sooner rather than later, but as always we'll see. |
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Post by avianalia on Mar 17, 2021 18:32:12 GMT
“They wonder about your mental state”
Panel 4 internal thought: Well it’s not -worse- for going back to one Annie, but...........
Anyone else get the same impression?
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Post by murk on Mar 17, 2021 18:32:56 GMT
You're far from alone in that sentiment! It was a peculiar and (seemingly, at least) anticlimactic way to end that story arc (if it ended – "It seems that way, yes!"). It seems Zimmy did something, but we've got no information about exactly what. I'm hoping for an explanation, preferably sooner rather than later, but as always we'll see. Oh yes, by now Tom has built enough trust with me that I assume it will work out in a satisfying way.
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Post by Bo No Bo on Mar 17, 2021 18:52:23 GMT
As I thought, it seems to be the case that the bow tied at the end of the last chapter wasn't as tidy as we concluded. It creates an ominous mood of tension between the finality we're being served and the underlying importance of the actions that took place. IS this really Annie?? BOTH the Annies? Who is it IN the 'Mind Cage'?
SPOILERS, but it's giving me images of the end of Toby Fox's Delta Rune (Chapter 1) in which we watch the protagonist fling their soul into a cage.
It remains to be seen if this chapter will focus on who this IS, or, if it IS really Annie Recombined, what effects this has had on her...
I ALSO notice that Jones' weird eye thing someone brought up for the last comic is STILL happening, and I'm not sure if to read into that (Jones IS the 'Wandering Eye'; something is wrong here w/ reality) or not (has always been the case; just a consistent quirk of the art)...
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Post by crater on Mar 17, 2021 19:28:09 GMT
that's exactly what a fake Annie would say.....
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Post by saardvark on Mar 17, 2021 20:08:48 GMT
“They wonder about your mental state” Panel 4 internal thought: Well it’s not -worse- for going back to one Annie, but........... Anyone else get the same impression? welcome to the forum, avianalia! yes, it would seem that Annie has discussed some "issues" about the recombination with Kat - hence Kat's wry smile and upturned eyebrows. Though the last panel gives some hope that all is *generally* well... her reply there seems sincere enough. |
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Post by jocobo on Mar 18, 2021 0:04:28 GMT
I'm wondering if she's as singular as we are meant to believe.
"It seems that way, yes." It just feels so curiously worded. Not, "Yes, I am." But it seems that way. Follow that with the zoom in on the eye which seems to be implying something about perception or how we see the world and I am curious if Annie only seems to be one person to people who can't perceive her in a different way.
The concept of how we perceive the universe has been reoccurring theme. A good example with Kat's unique way of seeing things when encountering aspects of the ether. Her perception breaks them down into an easily understandable and solvable concept. So I wonder if this might be an extension of that concept.
Combined with the clear worry at the question about her mental state and I'm suspicious. I'd even dare to wonder if Kat's unique perception means she might be seeing the "truth" of whatever Zimmy did to Annie and that why she also looks nervous.
I'm think it really IS a DBZ situation and we've got a one body, two minds scenario on our hands. And maybe some people can still perceive the other Annie.
The "I'm still me!" isn't a lie, because she is her. She's both Annies simultaneously. But that doesn't mean they are one person.
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Post by Deepbluediver on Mar 18, 2021 0:25:13 GMT
Did anyone else miss the fact that Annie recombined, or was that just me?
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Post by Runningflame on Mar 18, 2021 0:46:26 GMT
Annie: I do no harm, I keep to myself. There's nothing wrong with my state of mental health. Thank you. This shall henceforth be my theme song. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Mar 18, 2021 0:52:15 GMT
Surprised that everyone's commenting on Annie's awkward smile in panel 4 and not Kat's "LAUGHING ON LINE, amirite?" smile in that same panel. That expression is GOLD. Also surprised at how many people seem to be assuming that Annie's awkward smile means that she is not, in fact, mentally stable! After Panel 3, *I* felt intimidated by Jones, and I'm not the one actually being questioned by her, so I kind of naturally assumed that that was the reason for her awkwardness! I can only presume that Kat is not acting more frightened because she's not the one who saw Jones punch through concrete walls with her bare hands and threaten gods with physical force. |
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Post by jda on Mar 18, 2021 6:14:46 GMT
In other words...  |
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Post by arf on Mar 18, 2021 6:58:16 GMT
... I was very much hoping for a single Antimony with ... possibly extra arms... That was the motif for Volume 8. |
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Post by foxurus on Mar 18, 2021 8:49:22 GMT
"People who definitely, absolutely are not me want to make sure you're doing okay. These people (who are not me) are concerned because they, unlike I, are able to care about others. Which I cannot do. Hence why I am only asking on behalf of them, and certainly not for my own benefit, because I (of course) don't care about the answer."
I'm excited for Single Annie to be back. There's something so refreshing about her getting to talk to someone without having to take turns saying sentences.
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Post by aline on Mar 18, 2021 9:04:23 GMT
Loup was created from two different and already insane creatures of doom, one of whom was brain damaged and unstable. So the result was not terribly surprising. |
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Post by saardvark on Mar 18, 2021 11:20:44 GMT
Surprised that everyone's commenting on Annie's awkward smile in panel 4 and not Kat's "LAUGHING ON LINE, amirite?" smile in that same panel. That expression is GOLD. I did, I did! See four comments above yours... "Kat's wry smile". I wins shiny medal.... yay! |
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 18, 2021 12:00:27 GMT
I still think the Court picked the wrong person to send, because Jones is giving Annie fair warning, whereas someone else probably wouldn't have. That's a good thing for Annie, but "people" may not get the result they wanted. Not that Jones won't give them an objective report of what she observes here, but she's put Annie on guard, so she's tainted the data from the start. Your points are true, but...! I think you are forgetting something important... Annie trusts Jones. Most others would not get a shred of information out of her at best and be met with hostility at worst. Of course, there are other Court employees she trusts, too (like Anja), but Jones is the only who actually confers with the higher-ups, as far as we know. Maybe Tony does, too, but I am pretty sure they do not trust him, just as he does not trust them (which they are certainly aware of as well). In fact, this might be another point in favor of sending Jones on certain important missions. The Court's leader(s) can be reasonably sure Jones is not playing various other games like most other of their people seem to do. Did anyone else miss the fact that Annie recombined, or was that just me? Looking at this thread and the comment's under the current page... no, you were certainly not the only one. Which is not suprising, given how it just happened as an afterthought in a chapter about something completely different. I might have missed it myself at first had I not been asking myself what the "We're following Dragon Ball Z rules for clothes." comment under page 2436 meant. |
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 18, 2021 12:04:25 GMT
now who is this Steadman fellow..on wait here's his diary "and it shows he retired the Court before Jeanne¿s shenanigans, so he knows nothing. Ok, That'd be it" And one page after that:
"Nice to finally know what the Court actually is."
"Yeah."
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"By the way, that Loup problem has been taken care of."
"Oh, really, how?"
"Ah, that's not important."
"Oh, I see."
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"And how are all the robots?"
"They're doing great again."
"Cool."
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 18, 2021 14:28:05 GMT
I still think the Court picked the wrong person to send, because Jones is giving Annie fair warning, whereas someone else probably wouldn't have. That's a good thing for Annie, but "people" may not get the result they wanted. Not that Jones won't give them an objective report of what she observes here, but she's put Annie on guard, so she's tainted the data from the start. Your points are true, but...! I think you are forgetting something important... Annie trusts Jones. Most others would not get a shred of information out of her at best and be met with hostility at worst. Of course, there are other Court employees she trusts, too (like Anja), but Jones is the only who actually confers with the higher-ups, as far as we know. Maybe Tony does, too, but I am pretty sure they do not trust him, just as he does not trust them (which they are certainly aware of as well). In fact, this might be another point in favor of sending Jones on certain important missions. The Court's leader(s) can be reasonably sure Jones is not playing various other games like most other of their people seem to do. Yeah, you're right, it's not as if the Court Higher-Ups (whoever they are) have a lot of other options for whom to send. I mean, I suppose they could have sent Anja, Donald, James, or Tony, or one of the various other teachers she's had, only some of whom we've seen, but could they trust their objectivity? They could have sent Llanwellyn, perhaps, but Annie wouldn't trust him. (Also, I'm not sure we've seen him stand.) It's not as if they can send a robot, for multiple reasons. Annie trusts Jones like the Court trusts her, I think: she trusts her not to push the Court's agenda, and the Court trusts her not to take Annie's side. Random thought: Is every chapter in this volume going to begin with people meeting on the street? |
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 18, 2021 14:48:51 GMT
Also surprised at how many people seem to be assuming that Annie's awkward smile means that she is not, in fact, mentally stable! After Panel 3, *I* felt intimidated by Jones, and I'm not the one actually being questioned by her, so I kind of naturally assumed that that was the reason for her awkwardness! I can only presume that Kat is not acting more frightened because she's not the one who saw Jones punch through concrete walls with her bare hands and threaten gods with physical force. I was assuming that Jones jumps right to (basically) "People are questioning your sanity" because most people would react defensively to that, basically just as Annie is doing, especially if they're terrible at dissembling, which Annie is. That extreme close-up of Jones' eye in the third panel (of this topic's page) just as she says this suggests that she's observing this as carefully as certain forum posters scrutinize every pixel of certain webcomics (hehe). And of course she remembers everything perfectly, so it's like she's a walking video camera with infinite storage. So of course Annie's suddenly awkward, because anyone would be, and that's by design. That does bring up the question of what someone who actually was mentally unstable would do in this situation, and that would probably depend on the type of instability. They might get violent, I suppose, or run away, or a lot of other things. I suppose hemming and hawing defensively isn't a sure sign of stability, but it does rule some things out. Where does Kat go in panel 6? Anyway, is Jones threatening Coyote with physical force in the page you link to? I thought it was more like "I can take her back, and there's nothing anyone here can do to stop me." In other words, I saw it as Jones referring to her imperviousness to ... everything. (I suppose he could toss Jones into space, but that would kill Annie.) Also, Coyote's response seems to suggest that such a contest has actually happened in the past. |
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Post by alevice on Mar 18, 2021 15:03:17 GMT
On this stampede of non revelations and just brushing off explanations, Annie next page will meet Tony and say: Annie "Father, don't worry, I now understand why you behave like you do with me. No need to address it anymore." Tony: "Oh, ok." And that would be it. Thats too long for new Annie. Tony: "Antimony! What has occurred?!" Annie: "Father, I understand" Tony: "Good" ... |
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 18, 2021 18:24:34 GMT
Your points are true, but...! I think you are forgetting something important... Annie trusts Jones. Most others would not get a shred of information out of her at best and be met with hostility at worst. Of course, there are other Court employees she trusts, too (like Anja), but Jones is the only who actually confers with the higher-ups, as far as we know. Maybe Tony does, too, but I am pretty sure they do not trust him, just as he does not trust them (which they are certainly aware of as well). In fact, this might be another point in favor of sending Jones on certain important missions. The Court's leader(s) can be reasonably sure Jones is not playing various other games like most other of their people seem to do. Yeah, you're right, it's not as if the Court Higher-Ups (whoever they are) have a lot of other options for whom to send. I mean, I suppose they could have sent Anja, Donald, James, or Tony, or one of the various other teachers she's had, only some of whom we've seen, but could they trust their objectivity? They could have sent Llanwellyn, perhaps, but Annie wouldn't trust him. (Also, I'm not sure we've seen him stand.) It's not as if they can send a robot, for multiple reasons. Annie trusts Jones like the Court trusts her, I think: she trusts her not to push the Court's agenda, and the Court trusts her not to take Annie's side. Random thought: Is every chapter in this volume going to begin with people meeting on the street? You know, only now do I realize how much the room where Llanwellyn always speaks with Coyote is built (and furnished) like a throne room, which is pretty ridiculous for a simple headmaster. Which convinces me even more that he is just a figurehead to distract everyone from who is really running things here. Probably someone who is hiding in plain sight. ...Bob the gardener? Also now I alternately imagine Llanwellyn's chair (with him still on it) to just swivel and disappear into the floor after the meeting, or to get up in the air, turn around and float away.
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Post by alevice on Mar 18, 2021 18:28:58 GMT
You know, only now do I realize how much the room where Llanwellyn always speaks with Coyote is built (and furnished) like a throne room, which is pretty ridiculous for a simple headmaster.
Given they only use it for dealing with the forst, it probably is meant to insult them in a way. The kingdom of gunnerkring is having an audience to listed to those forest peasants |
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 18, 2021 19:22:28 GMT
You know, only now do I realize how much the room where Llanwellyn always speaks with Coyote is built (and furnished) like a throne room, which is pretty ridiculous for a simple headmaster. Which convinces me even more that he is just a figurehead to distract everyone from who is really running things here. Probably someone who is hiding in plain sight. ...Bob the gardener? I'm still speculating it's the seraph robots, or maybe the Artilleryman's head in a jar. It can't be Steadman, Sir Young, or Diego; they all left final records, so they're pretty definitively dead (I doubt the RotD would let them leave final records unless they were certifiably dead, and I'm not sure how they'd have fooled the RotD, since they're kind of experts at being dead). It could still be some kind of Diego-based AI. Or the Seed Bismuth is sentient and still running the place. Or it's the laser cow hivemind. Well, we have seen him in his office, although he was seated there as well. Of course, that doesn't mean that chair can't lower into the floor too. It could be how he gets around. The chair sinks into the floor with him in it, doors sliding closed to cover the hole in the floor, then somewhere else the floor slides open and he rises out of the hole in a different chair. |
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Post by jda on Mar 18, 2021 23:38:51 GMT
"and it shows he retired the Court before Jeanne¿s shenanigans, so he knows nothing. Ok, That'd be it" And one page after that:
"Nice to finally know what the Court actually is."
"Yeah."
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"By the way, that Loup problem has been taken care of."
"Oh, really, how?"
"Ah, that's not important."
"Oh, I see."
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"And how are all the robots?"
"They're doing great again."
"Cool."
"Also Jones, My mom says Hello. She Father and I are going on a trip after Kat found a way to isolate her consciousness and put it on a new Body. Also, bye Kat." THE END Thanks for reading this comic. |
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Post by maxptc on Mar 19, 2021 0:07:18 GMT
I'm excited for Single Annie to be back. There's something so refreshing about her getting to talk to someone without having to take turns saying sentences. Same, I prefer a singular Annie. I'm hopeful that smile is a "oh its time for the awkward conversation we were expecting" smile as opposed to an impending psychological twin thing like some people are thinking. |
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Post by yhbc on Mar 19, 2021 0:29:55 GMT
"Wait, did Annie recombine?" is the new "Is that Eglamore? He looks different".
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Post by wies on Mar 19, 2021 9:06:25 GMT
In other words... This makes me wonder if this is most of the mindset Jones is in when dealing with those people with all their emotions running amok. "People who definitely, absolutely are not me want to make sure you're doing okay. These people (who are not me) are concerned because they, unlike I, are able to care about others. Which I cannot do. Hence why I am only asking on behalf of them, and certainly not for my own benefit, because I (of course) don't care about the answer." I'm excited for Single Annie to be back. There's something so refreshing about her getting to talk to someone without having to take turns saying sentences. Interesting interpretation! If true, it is a good example of how Jones can be subtle in a blunt way. Annie trusts Jones like the Court trusts her, I think: she trusts her not to push the Court's agenda, and the Court trusts her not to take Annie's side. (is it though?)
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