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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 6, 2021 8:18:31 GMT
Sounds like Zimzims was already apart from Gamma before these kids started chasing her. What happened before that remains to be seen. |
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Post by jda on Jan 6, 2021 8:20:42 GMT
What wall, may I ask? I'm at lost on this. EDIT: I can only speculate there is a wall surrounding an encircled cluster of Elves houses/refugee camp? If the wall divides to the forest.... oh noes, Loup kidnapped Gamma! (that would ensure Zimmy reaching critical mass, beginning here, and would be a HELL OF AN INCENTIVE FOR ANNIES TO RETURN THE COYOTE WATER!!!) |
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Post by Fishy on Jan 6, 2021 8:25:57 GMT
I wonder if the wall climbing is an exaggeration. Probably, but like...
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Well, I'm just sayin' we don't know that Zimmy CAN'T do that.
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Post by blahzor on Jan 6, 2021 8:33:30 GMT
I wonder if the wall climbing is an exaggeration. Probably, but like... ... Well, I'm just sayin' we don't know that Zimmy CAN'T do that. Aren't the forest people too literally to exaggerate outside that one thing telling stories to the fairy and rabbit? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 6, 2021 8:40:42 GMT
"A wall" might be any sort of wall, or in this case anything that an elf kid would see as a wall. Included in that (but not limited to this) is: Any sort of building, any barrier tall enough to prohibit jumping or stepping over, any artificial incline steep enough to require climbing, and any object or conglomeration of objects that can be said to form a barrier meeting the previously-mentioned criteria.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jan 6, 2021 8:52:14 GMT
"We saw her writhing in pain. So we came to the most logical conclusion:"
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Post by speedwell on Jan 6, 2021 10:12:16 GMT
"We saw her writing in pain. So we came to the most logical conclusion:" You may laugh, but I live in rural Ireland, so rural that some of the locals still cross themselves when they see stray cats on the theory that they're fairies in disguise. I am more than half convinced that the wood elves are, in general, thinly veiled versions of Irish "culchies" and in a few cases perhaps Travellers. I could almost match the kids in this group to kids of my friends in Roscommon or South Sligo, heh. |
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Post by saardvark on Jan 6, 2021 12:52:34 GMT
I wonder if the wall climbing is an exaggeration. Probably, but like... ... Well, I'm just sayin' we don't know that Zimmy CAN'T do that. infested by too many white-legs and got all spidery? new superhero Spider-Zimms! |
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Post by bedinsis on Jan 6, 2021 12:59:29 GMT
When we last saw Gamma: here, at the end of chapter 74. When we first saw Zimmy in peril without Gamma: here or here, explicitly, in chapter 78. Some time between these pages Gamma was no longer in Zimmy's presence, I wonder when. I would guess it's relatively recent since reality distortions appear pretty much instantly when Zimmy is left alone, but I wonder how long time has passed between those pages? Chapter 75, She gave us an ocean, was probably an instant or nearly instant experience so that took no time. Chapter 76, Down that road, starts out with Annie C talking about how Tony treated her differently again, implying some time of significance had passed without showing it to us. Significance could be anything between one day to a month. Later on in the chapter the shadow men took hold of the lake water, and the rest of the chapter was set during the same day, so no significant time passes there. Chapter 77, The thousand eyes, directly follows the previous chapter and spends some time beyond the reaches of time with the Norns, so no significant time passes there. Chapter 78, Behind it all, is a montage chapter interspersed with Zimmy screaming for Gamma, and it starts out with Kat reconciling with Paz and Annie C making a new attempt with connecting with her father. Some time of significance could have passed between this chapter and previous one, but I think Kat would immediately reconcile with Gamma after getting her hair cut. All considered I think there's been two weeks max between Gamma appearing and Zimmy screaming for her. I also think this is the Shadow men's doing. The Power Station was under control of Shadow Men, such as operative Juliette, and that station has been dismantled. At the same time they have shown initiative by nabbing the lake water, so I suspect we are seeing something of their design. |
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Post by Polyhymnia on Jan 6, 2021 13:52:41 GMT
Considering this page: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1241The kids reactions make a lot more sense. I thought they were just being bullies, but written the way it was, it looks like they didn’t seek her out. Not that I agree with or condone their behavior, but within the forest there seem to be rules about who is accepted where and Zimmy seems to break those rules. |
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Post by wies on Jan 6, 2021 14:20:40 GMT
Touched that Annie is offended on Zimmy's behalf. But that yellin' and crying' points to Zimmy been in a bad state due to reasons unrelated to the elves. And why does everyone think Zimmy is a demon? I think it has to do something with her warping the ether, because only etherical beings have regarded her so. Interesting that Annie doesn't think that way. Maybe because she is able to offset Zimmy's distortions somewhat? (or maybe because she and Zimmy are the same person)
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Post by fia on Jan 6, 2021 15:17:08 GMT
Touched that Annie is offended on Zimmy's behalf. But that yellin' and crying' points to Zimmy been in a bad state due to reasons unrelated to the elves. And why does everyone think Zimmy is a demon? I think it has to do something with her warping the ether, because only etherical beings have regarded her so. Interesting that Annie doesn't think that way. Maybe because she is able to offset Zimmy's distortions somewhat? (or maybe because she and Zimmy are the same person) Or maybe because Annie generally doesn't blame people for traits they are not responsible for having. She has many flaws, Annie, but lack of empathy for all creatures under the Ether, no matter how weird looking or obnoxiously behaved, is not one of them it seems. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jan 6, 2021 16:04:55 GMT
Have you ever been so angry that you climbed up the wall like a spider?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 6, 2021 16:16:45 GMT
Have you ever been so angry that you climbed up the wall like a spider? I got so bored on a date once that I practiced chimneying in a doorway. If the ductwork had been a little more sturdy-looking I'd have been all over the ceiling. |
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Post by glyphomatrix on Jan 6, 2021 16:31:34 GMT
Can't help but to be slightly reminded of Sadako/Samara from the Ring with all that has been going with Zimmy.
(I'm pretty sure she had issues with superpower incontinence too)
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Post by echo on Jan 6, 2021 16:48:45 GMT
You all clearly lack astral insight. Now I am under the illusion of the veil like most mortals, but by dabbling into occult tome "The Amazing Spiderman" I have reasons to believe the elves were actually chasing a costumed vigilante dubbed "Spiderman" and if that is indeed the case, that providing Jonah Jameson with photographic images of him could prove quite lucrative if libel is not a concern.
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Post by warrl on Jan 6, 2021 18:34:45 GMT
if libel is not a concern. Under US law, telling the truth is an affirmative defense against accusations of libel. However, at least as of the time that Leon Uris set QB VII in, that was not true in Britain. In that book, the respondents to a libel suit claimed to be telling the truth and, on that basis among others, recommended that the jury find for the plaintiff and award damages of one ha'penny. (Wanna know what the suit was about or the outcome of the case? Go read the book.) |
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 6, 2021 22:22:00 GMT
I would guess it's relatively recent since reality distortions appear pretty much instantly when Zimmy is left alone, but I wonder how long time has passed between those pages? The question is, which of these are distortions that other people can perceive? Because we usually saw those from Zimmy's POV which is...well...not that reliable when it comes to determining what is real and what is not. |
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Post by DonDueed on Jan 6, 2021 23:44:57 GMT
Touched that Annie is offended on Zimmy's behalf. But that yellin' and crying' points to Zimmy been in a bad state due to reasons unrelated to the elves. And why does everyone think Zimmy is a demon? I think it has to do something with her warping the ether, because only etherical beings have regarded her so. Are you making a distinction between "warping the ether" and "warping reality"? Because the elves were calling Zimmy a demon even before the reality distortion set in, and they clearly have no prior experience with it.
So it seems like they decided she was a demon on some other basis.
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Post by Jota on Jan 7, 2021 0:53:29 GMT
And why does everyone think Zimmy is a demon? Perhaps she is one? Not in the real-world religious sense, of course. But if there's a kind of creature that they use the word "demon" to refer to, maybe that's what Zimmy actually is, in the same way that Annie is an elemental and Coyote is a deity. |
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Post by blahzor on Jan 7, 2021 1:36:03 GMT
Touched that Annie is offended on Zimmy's behalf. But that yellin' and crying' points to Zimmy been in a bad state due to reasons unrelated to the elves. And why does everyone think Zimmy is a demon? I think it has to do something with her warping the ether, because only etherical beings have regarded her so. Interesting that Annie doesn't think that way. Maybe because she is able to offset Zimmy's distortions somewhat? (or maybe because she and Zimmy are the same person) Annie only ever cared here because everyone here is actually Zimmy |
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Post by warrl on Jan 7, 2021 3:45:38 GMT
And why does everyone think Zimmy is a demon? Perhaps she is one? Not in the real-world religious sense, of course. But if there's a kind of creature that they use the word "demon" to refer to, maybe that's what Zimmy actually is, in the same way that Annie is an elemental and Coyote is a deity. In a certain multiverse that Phil Foglio created, "demon" is the common abbreviation for "dimension traveler". So pretty much all his major and secondary characters are demons, including the straight-human ones. |
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Post by wies on Jan 7, 2021 13:40:22 GMT
Touched that Annie is offended on Zimmy's behalf. But that yellin' and crying' points to Zimmy been in a bad state due to reasons unrelated to the elves. And why does everyone think Zimmy is a demon? I think it has to do something with her warping the ether, because only etherical beings have regarded her so. Are you making a distinction between "warping the ether" and "warping reality"? Because the elves were calling Zimmy a demon even before the reality distortion set in, and they clearly have no prior experience with it.
So it seems like they decided she was a demon on some other basis.
I'm not making that distinction, I guess. But maybe they can sense it somehow that Zimmy is able to do that? Renard doesn't seem to have experienced it before Torn Sea, and yet one of the first things he did in the comic was expressing his disgust of her. |
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Post by ohthatone on Jan 7, 2021 15:11:26 GMT
Has zimmy been seen in ether-vision? I wonder if annie shouldn't just make a habit of glancing around in the ether every once in a while like Link's eye of truth in OoT
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Post by OrzBrain on Jan 7, 2021 19:09:17 GMT
"Wait, where's Tam?"
"Eh? Oh, she was probably abducted and eaten by giant spiders. That happens here a lot. Nothing to worry about."
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Post by sleepcircle on Jan 7, 2021 20:42:37 GMT
Has zimmy been seen in ether-vision? I wonder if annie shouldn't just make a habit of glancing around in the ether every once in a while like Link's eye of truth in OoT bro, if zimmingham is all in her head then you're looking at her in ethervision right now |
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Post by ohthatone on Jan 8, 2021 13:21:27 GMT
Has zimmy been seen in ether-vision? I wonder if annie shouldn't just make a habit of glancing around in the ether every once in a while like Link's eye of truth in OoT bro, if zimmingham is all in her head then you're looking at her in ethervision right now We aren't seeing ether reynardine right now. |
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Post by sleepcircle on Jan 8, 2021 17:53:21 GMT
i mean, it's cause it's manifesting in the real world, right?
(i'm probably wrong about this but why give up on a headcanon just because it's been proven 100% wrong, amirite)
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Post by thesteve on Jan 9, 2021 1:01:21 GMT
Perhaps she is one? Not in the real-world religious sense, of course. But if there's a kind of creature that they use the word "demon" to refer to, maybe that's what Zimmy actually is, in the same way that Annie is an elemental and Coyote is a deity. In a certain multiverse that Phil Foglio created, "demon" is the common abbreviation for "dimension traveler". So pretty much all his major and secondary characters are demons, including the straight-human ones. I think you mean Robert Asprin's "Myth" series. Phil Foglio was just the cover artist. |
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Post by warrl on Jan 9, 2021 18:47:50 GMT
In a certain multiverse that Phil Foglio created, "demon" is the common abbreviation for "dimension traveler". So pretty much all his major and secondary characters are demons, including the straight-human ones. I think you mean Robert Asprin's "Myth" series. Phil Foglio was just the cover artist. THAT'S why I couldn't remember what that multiverse was called! Thanks! |
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