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Post by warrl on Nov 26, 2021 19:44:39 GMT
Doorbot probably saw Rey as a pet, rather than a person.
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Post by speedwell on Nov 26, 2021 22:26:11 GMT
Can robots have contracts of possession, and can they see the contract status of an entity? Hmm...
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Post by Runningflame on Nov 28, 2021 0:35:33 GMT
Doorbot probably saw Rey as a pet, rather than a person. Maybe. But he does address both Annie and Rey: "Come on in, friend s!" Annie also includes Rey in her later statement: "We are also robots."
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 29, 2021 14:18:25 GMT
Doorbot probably saw Rey as a pet, rather than a person. Maybe. But he does address both Annie and Rey: "Come on in, friend s!" Annie also includes Rey in her later statement: "We are also robots." Maybe he assumed a fellow robot would of course never let a non-robot enter -> since Annie is a robot, the other one she lets in must also be a robot.
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Post by pyradonis on May 8, 2024 13:59:24 GMT
During "Torn Sea", Annie said "Wait...The ship is almost there..."The ship? She was talking about the drone, right? Did Tom make a mistake, or was this deliberate? Now what's the really weird thing about this? It is that I read through the discussion thread of page 1411, and in three pages no one brings it up.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 8, 2024 14:15:02 GMT
During "Torn Sea", Annie said "Wait...The ship is almost there..."The ship? She was talking about the drone, right? Did Tom make a mistake, or was this deliberate? Now what's the really weird thing about this? It is that I read through the discussion thread of page 1411, and in three pages no one brings it up. Jenny calls the drone " Jack's ship" a few pages before that. "Ship" probably fit the word bubble [edit] on #1411 [/edit] better. (shrug)
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Post by blazingstar on May 10, 2024 18:42:43 GMT
Not on a reread, but your comment about this page made me think of something. And am I imagining things or does she look more similar to her NP incarnation than ever before? Well, she definitely looks healthier, though still bedridden. I still think she looks partially like the black-haired NP, partially like Zimmy. Which brings to mind this offhand comment about imagining "Zimmy in a dress, doing up her hair, and she could impress anyone's parents". Looking back, that joke was DEFINITELY a long-game foreshadowing by Tom. Yes, it was sarcastic, but now we may be getting a glimpse at what Zimmy could look like in a dress (and with frizz-free hair), if she was more stable.
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Post by yellowb on May 12, 2024 20:24:44 GMT
This wasn't on a reread, it was right after I started reading the comic circa 2015. When Surma was first mentioned, to be specific.
I'm Finnish, and in the Finnish language the word "surma" means death, usually a violent one. The more common and neutral word for death in Finnish is "kuolema".
But the black plague (or black death), for example, was called "musta surma" in Finnish. In our legal system, "surma" is a homicide that is less severe than manslaughter, but more severe than negligent homicide.
There are completely other meanings for Surma with a capital S, of course. Like a pastoralist ethnic group in western Ethiopia, or a river in Bangladesh.
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Post by Hatredman on May 12, 2024 20:30:23 GMT
This wasn't on a reread, it was right after I started reading the comic circa 2015. When Surma was first mentioned, to be specific. I'm Finnish, and in the Finnish language the word "surma" means death, usually a violent one. The more common and neutral word for death in Finnish is "kuolema". But the black plague (or black death), for example, was called "musta surma" in Finnish. In our legal system, "surma" is a homicide that is less severe than manslaughter, but more severe than negligent homicide. There are completely other meanings for Surma with a capital S, of course. Like a pastoralist ethnic group in western Ethiopia, or a river in Bangladesh. I will not be able to find it, but I think Tom mentioned this somewhere.
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Post by Per on May 12, 2024 20:43:36 GMT
From the Formspring search engine:
Q: Were you aware of the Finnish meaning of Surma ("death" or "slaying"), and that it is the name of a mythological beast that guards the underworld, when you named the character?
A: Yep, I am aware of that
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Post by pyradonis on May 23, 2024 10:59:59 GMT
So, Aata said Omega's predictions grew inaccurate only after Annie fell from the bridge.
However, the Tic-Toc has changed the timeline much earlier, as it led Anja and Donald to discover the warehouse with the Golems underneath when they were still children.
So...did the Court simply not ask the right questions for one whole generation to notice any inaccuracies?
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Post by blahzor on May 23, 2024 13:14:17 GMT
So, Aata said Omega's predictions grew inaccurate only after Annie fell from the bridge. However, the Tic-Toc has changed the timeline much earlier, as it led Anja and Donald to discover the warehouse with the Golems underneath when they were still children. So...did the Court simply not ask the right questions for one whole generation to notice any inaccuracies? i would assume they weren't looking at this direction of the timeline and/or when coyote interferred and destroyed the ticktoc that locked in the inaccuracies as he can subvert time
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Post by Nika on May 24, 2024 10:47:12 GMT
To be fair, discovering a warehouse is on another level from a whole person being alive and a (very active) agent in many events when they shouldn't be. But yeah that is a fair question, Coyote "canonizing" the differences is an interesting idea, but I don't think it works because if that was the case it should apply to Annie's not-death as well, since it is all the same Ticktoc 🤔
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Post by pyradonis on May 24, 2024 15:29:16 GMT
To be fair, discovering a warehouse is on another level from a whole person being alive and a (very active) agent in many events when they shouldn't be. But yeah that is a fair question, Coyote "canonizing" the differences is an interesting idea, but I don't think it works because if that was the case it should apply to Annie's not-death as well, since it is all the same Ticktoc 🤔 It definitely is a much smaller change at first, however due to the butterfly effect I would expect the changes within the Court to become significant over an estimated two decades, if Omega's predictions are accurate enough to say when and where a couple of slugs will go at it. Not to mention it's still open whether Kat will send another Tic-Toc back in time. There still needs to be an explanation why the robot mythology included the Tic-Toc as a "mythical ornithonic", older than the Court itself and created by a divine being. We were even reminded of this fact when Kat built the first Tic-Toc. The more I think about it, the more I believe another Tic-Toc must be sent back, perhaps to observe the founding of the Court.
However... this would also predate Omega's birth, so perhaps the timeline she observes already includes the effects of this hypothetical second Tic-Toc?
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