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Post by madjack on Nov 30, 2020 8:01:33 GMT
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Post by wies on Nov 30, 2020 8:03:50 GMT
The two most etherical chaotic entities are starting to connect, it seems!
Zimmy's eyes turning red without rain is very interesting.
Anyway, Gamma, Zimmy...and Omega? They said "device", not "person" but if there is someone in this story that would dehumanize those they consider instrumental to their plans, it is probably the Court.
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Post by mzpx on Nov 30, 2020 8:14:55 GMT
Worlds collide! So hyped. Bonus page prediction: all ethereally connected characters asking 'Omega?' with a worried expression. Last panel is Jones, minding her own business.
Ooooor Kat and Paz running into Tony and making a comment about him not wearing shoes.
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Post by philman on Nov 30, 2020 8:24:14 GMT
Huh, Zimmy is connected to Loup somehow? Interesting
If we weren't approaching the endgame before, we definitely are now
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 30, 2020 8:56:36 GMT
I don't think they're connected in any way I'd consider meaningful. Unlike lesser mortals, some beings in the Gunnerverse know things directly rather than rely on sense experience. They just have to "look" in the right way or, if the thing is important enough, refuse to not perceive.
re: Omega- Who says that a long-watched pot won't come to a boil eventually?
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Post by jda on Nov 30, 2020 9:39:20 GMT
I don't think they're connected in any way I'd consider meaningful. Unlike lesser mortals, some beings in the Gunnerverse know things directly rather than rely on sense experience. Yeah, in Zimmy's case most like when her trance states occur, she is like an old TV with the tuning circuits working randomly: she sees present, past, other dimensions, what would be or not. In this case, in this page Zimmy lands on Loup's internal (?) dialogue dimension, one of the channels where ZimmyTV got stuck. I like the reference for this pages background, meaning maybe even Loup is not aware of being eavesdropped. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 30, 2020 9:52:11 GMT
I don't think they're connected in any way I'd consider meaningful. Unlike lesser mortals, some beings in the Gunnerverse know things directly rather than rely on sense experience. Yeah, in Zimmy's case most like when her trance states occur, she is like an old TV with the tuning circuits working randomly: she sees present, past, other dimensions, what would be or not. In this case, in this page Zimmy lands on Loup's internal (?) dialogue dimension, one of the channels where ZimmyTV got stuck. I like the reference for this pages background, meaning maybe even Loup is not aware of being eavesdropped. She may also be tuning in to Omega independently. There should be more people learning about Omega recently, particularly so if the Court is going to actually do something important with it soon... |
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Post by blahzor on Nov 30, 2020 10:59:03 GMT
To think Zimmy just off to the right of Loup talking to Coyote
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Nov 30, 2020 11:40:48 GMT
God I hope the next chapter directly picks up with her.
But also I want to know where Tony is headed with his weather data.
But also I want to see what's happening with Coyote's water vial.
But also I want to find out what Kat is planning
But also...
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Post by wies on Nov 30, 2020 12:27:06 GMT
God I hope the next chapter directly picks up with her. But also I want to know where Tony is headed with his weather data. But also I want to see what's happening with Coyote's water vial. But also I want to find out what Kat is planning But also... This book will entirely consist of chapters showing multiple viewpoints to keep all of us satisfied! |
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Post by philistine21 on Nov 30, 2020 13:41:27 GMT
Gamma is a greek letter. Omega is a greek letter.
HOW DID I NEVER MAKE THIS CONNECTION BEFORE?!?!?
I'm not sure it's relevant in any way but seeing them both side by side suddenly lit that particular light bulb.
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Post by Gemminie on Nov 30, 2020 13:54:38 GMT
We don't see Zimmy with points of red light in her eyes very often. Seems to be associated with flashes of perception or insight? Zimmy is much more together than we've seen her in this chapter, as if the initial shock, whatever it was, was a one-time event rather than an ongoing effect. The background has two of the five-pointed stars that went off the frame to the right in the previous page, and a hint of the river, but it's all sepia-tone, as if Zimmy's there with Loup but not quite. But is she seeing Loup and getting "omega" from him, or is she seeing the same thing he's seeing and getting "omega" from it? We don't see the array of points, lines, and circles at all in this panel, which suggests she's pseudo-eavesdropping on Loup. This is an unexpected end to the pattern. We'd been seeing 6-1-5-2, then we had three pages of Loup. The pattern was suggesting there'd be 4 pages of Loup, but nope. Zimmy shatters the pattern and puts an end to things. So much for all the "the endgame is here" speculation. Other chapters that begin volumes have looked in on various different characters – chapter 32, for example. Chapter 49 also brings in a lot of characters, though it ends a volume. |
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Post by Per on Nov 30, 2020 15:23:15 GMT
Bonus page prediction: all ethereally connected characters asking 'Omega?' with a worried expression. Last panel is Jones, minding her own business. Or in the third to last panel, Jones asks, "Lemon curry?" In the second to last panel, a flustered Dr Disaster in a chef's hat says, "Actually this recipe is what I call my 'Omega Project'." In the last panel, a completely random side character like a nameless elf asks "Omega?" with a dubious expression. |
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Post by alevice on Nov 30, 2020 15:29:29 GMT
Can anyone photdhop the last pages in sequence? Seems to me at least a few are meant be rrad as one larger page akin to robots sensory description
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Post by Corvo on Nov 30, 2020 15:36:10 GMT
Probably a coincidence, but the background looks a little like Annie's hair when she's in the ether.
On another note, those stars in the last two pages strike me as out of place. We know Coyote put the stars in the sky, but I don't think any part of his body was associated with stars, right? In this case, could the stars be originating from something else (Omega, most likely), just off panel?
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Post by Corvo on Nov 30, 2020 15:50:04 GMT
Can anyone photdhop the last pages in sequence? Seems to me at least a few are meant be rrad as one larger page akin to robots sensory description |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 30, 2020 16:07:41 GMT
Gamma is a greek letter. Omega is a greek letter. HOW DID I NEVER MAKE THIS CONNECTION BEFORE?!?!? I'm not sure it's relevant in any way but seeing them both side by side suddenly lit that particular light bulb. Zimmy stands for Zeta, too. |
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Post by blazingstar on Nov 30, 2020 16:22:08 GMT
Plot twist: the Omega Device is a person the Omega Device is a PERSON the Omega Device is a person the Omega Device is a person th-
I am exploding with excitement over this revelation, which many of us had probably considered before, but now is looking like an actual possibility for the first time.
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Post by alevice on Nov 30, 2020 16:27:29 GMT
Can anyone photdhop the last pages in sequence? Seems to me at least a few are meant be rrad as one larger page akin to robots sensory description Thank you sir or madam, Kind of a bummer at leats the loup pages werent connected but oh welll. |
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 30, 2020 16:34:39 GMT
Zimmy. Gamma. Omega. Gasp! The Laser Cows' hive mind must be called Mu. It's all coming together!
My guess is Loup and Zimmy are tuning into the same "signal", that's probably being "broadcast" by the Court. The question is what was Coyote's plan, and how did it alter/stop the Omega Project?
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Post by fia on Nov 30, 2020 16:55:41 GMT
Well I'm nervous. The only link we have to the Omega device is Tony, and some vague gesture at the Court. If the device is a person, it's either a person we know or it is not. I'm hoping it is someone or something we do not know. Because if it is a person we know, it's not going to be a cute revelation, I'm afraid  EDIT: I do not think the Omega Device is a person, but Zimmy turning around in that way makes me uneasy. |
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Post by blazingstar on Nov 30, 2020 17:07:50 GMT
Zimmy's eyes turning red without rain is very interesting. Her eyes are naturally red, and we've seen them without rain before. Those moments usually seem to be to emphasize the narrative. We don't see Zimmy with points of red light in her eyes very often. Seems to be associated with flashes of perception or insight? Case in point. |
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Post by bedinsis on Nov 30, 2020 17:21:00 GMT
I think the court is doing another experiment, only it is now at a much larger scale, and Zimmy is picking up on it. I don't think Zimmy is part of the experiment, she's been left to her own devices. Is she was crucial they'd pull her in. Zimmy's manifestations are due to her being more attuned to the ether and Loup is swimming in it, so a larger scale experiment is something they would pick up on. I wonder if the experiment involves the lake water; if the purpose of the court is to become god and the court already has been doing experiments involving water and they now have a liquid that contains divinity it makes sense that they'd experiment on it. EDIT: Ahhhhh!! I only now noticed the end-of-chapter-symbol! Okay, then this page reads much differently to me, even though the above speculation still stands. |
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Post by iconocat on Nov 30, 2020 19:34:37 GMT
Can anyone photdhop the last pages in sequence? Seems to me at least a few are meant be rrad as one larger page akin to robots sensory description We can see that at least the last two pages are connected - the stars spill from Loup's page into Zimmy's, and, even more interestingly, the flowing water in Loup's world becomes the fleshy red substance that Zimmy is trapped in. If you look at the pages side by side, the two pieces share the same lines and curves, but have different textures. |
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Post by echo on Nov 30, 2020 20:20:26 GMT
When I think of Omega I think of "Alpha and Omega", like in the bible. Omega being an end.
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Post by Gemminie on Nov 30, 2020 20:55:06 GMT
When I think of Omega I think of "Alpha and Omega", like in the bible. Omega being an end. Definitely. The Court wouldn't name it the "Omega Device" unless they intended for it to be the end of something. The question is what, though. Coyote said the Court was Man's effort to become God, though that's vague and could simply be figurative. Technology, though, is often likened to humanity trying to be like God (bending the world to human will), so perhaps the Court is simply a human effort to push the limits of technology – perhaps into the etheric realm. For this purpose they seek out humans with etheric abilities and learn what they can from them. Of course, they do other studies as well. It seems to me that if they're calling something the "Omega Device," the Court probably intends for it to accomplish the end of their goals, a device that can make someone like a god. What that would do, I'm not sure – perhaps it would allow the user to bend physical reality to their will? Or allow them to match Coyote's or Loup's power? Anja's computer seems to grant her and Donnie some pretty amazing abilities, though, but Anja said that the Court is completely uninterested in it, because it involves effects that are unexplainable by science, even etheric science. Perhaps that's the difference – perhaps the Omega Device is meant to do wondrous things while being completely predictable and explainable. |
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Post by mzpx on Nov 30, 2020 21:13:06 GMT
This definitely reads like an exposition chapter to the last volume, has Tom said anything about how much more is left of the series? Also, it's entirely possible that the Omega device was supposed to be an actual physical device originally, but the Court had to speed things up for obvious reasons, so they took a shortcut with some.. biological components. Then again, there are lots of possibilities, although I'm stumped by the Court wanting to take Annie far away. |
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Post by mzpx on Nov 30, 2020 21:23:10 GMT
When I think of Omega I think of "Alpha and Omega", like in the bible. Omega being an end. Definitely. The Court wouldn't name it the "Omega Device" unless they intended for it to be the end of something. The question is what, though. Coyote said the Court was Man's effort to become God, though that's vague and could simply be figurative. Technology, though, is often likened to humanity trying to be like God (bending the world to human will), so perhaps the Court is simply a human effort to push the limits of technology – perhaps into the etheric realm. For this purpose they seek out humans with etheric abilities and learn what they can from them. Of course, they do other studies as well. It seems to me that if they're calling something the "Omega Device," the Court probably intends for it to accomplish the end of their goals, a device that can make someone like a god. What that would do, I'm not sure – perhaps it would allow the user to bend physical reality to their will? Or allow them to match Coyote's or Loup's power? Anja's computer seems to grant her and Donnie some pretty amazing abilities, though, but Anja said that the Court is completely uninterested in it, because it involves effects that are unexplainable by science, even etheric science. Perhaps that's the difference – perhaps the Omega Device is meant to do wondrous things while being completely predictable and explainable. We've seen the shield, next comes the sword? Certainly possible, although I still think that any weapon(/reality warping) would just be a byproduct of whatever it is they really want (probably a working replica of the ether/seed bismuth/etc.). By the way, the Court did say they were uninterested in Anja's abilities, and then they stole it and used it on a massive scale. Wouldn't be surprised if that happened again. |
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Post by Gemminie on Nov 30, 2020 21:28:55 GMT
This definitely reads like an exposition chapter to the last volume, has Tom said anything about how much more is left of the series? I think he's said something like there's quite a bit more story to get to – from what I've seen, he hasn't said anything concrete. I've puzzled about that too – especially the choice of words. "They" (who?) mean to " take you away," not " send you away." That is, it's not like the Court's going to expel Annie, or buy her a one-way ticket to Tokyo. It sounds like the Court's going to keep Annie with it as it goes away somewhere. But also, he doesn't say "the Court means to take you away." Yes, he did just mention the Court, but can we be sure that it's the Court who means to take her away? What if he means the psychopomps? I love how every answer brings up more questions. It's one of the coolest things about this comic. |
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Post by Gemminie on Nov 30, 2020 21:32:14 GMT
By the way, the Court did say they were uninterested in Anja's abilities, and then they stole it and used it on a massive scale. Wouldn't be surprised if that happened again. But ... did they? I'm still thinking that we haven't seen the last of time travel in this story. I kind of think that Anja and/or Kat are going to go back in time and install that hidden shielding subroutine in the robots. It's just like Anja's shield because Anja herself put it there, working together with her daughter. But again, speculation. |
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