[2394] "I can sense the terrible end..."

[imaginaryfriend]

And why it must be so? Because Ys wasn't a god, most likely, and because Coyote would find it funny.

[shaihulud]

Wasn't expecting him to be humble, gonna be honest.

[wies]

It reads like Ysengrin is apologizing for attacking coyote. I worry about what all this is doing to Ys' state of mind.

Seems Loup is agreeing with Coyote's grand plan, like Coyote did predict.

Also, 'something else' being that light Loup noticed close by Renard?

[imaginaryfriend]

Not sure I see a "Loup" humble or apologetic here, but a regretful "Loup" in the "um yeah I see now that was never gonna work out in the long run" sort of way.

[migrantworker]

Behold, Loup in a Bargaining stage of grief.

[arf]

"And something else... those peyote mushrooms you told me never to eat are *cra-zy* bad!"

[Eily]

So the newborn Loup realized that he is not only fated to end quickly, he thinks it will be a *terrible* end as well 😐

Seeing what's happening to Zimmy I wonder if Coyote's big plan has to do with changing, or even removing magic and the Ether from the reach of the Court and humans in general. Basically, I'm wondering if Coyote's big plan is to create the Annan waters all over again, this time between the Ether and the real world.

[aquamafia]

I'm sure a lot of people are getting the sense that the comic is approaching it's last storylines now. It's kinda wild isn't it? 
That "and something else" feels like it's hinting at Annie, what with the red streak and how Ysengrin straight up told Annie earlier that the Court's plotting involves taking her far far away. 

Are there any major plot threads that haven't been addressed or tied up yet?

So far, we still need info on Coyote's plan for Loup, the missing memory, Zimmy's issues, the two Annies, the first timeline and how Kat time traveled, the Omega device, properties of the green arrow, the seed bismuth and the origins of the court. Oh and maybe what Jones actually is. Any I'm missing?

[migrantworker]

Nov 25, 2020 10:22:16 GMT aquamafia said:

I'm sure a lot of people are getting the sense that the comic is approaching it's last storylines now. It's kinda wild isn't it? 
That "and something else" feels like it's hinting at Annie, what with the red streak and how Ysengrin straight up told Annie earlier that the Court's plotting involves taking her far far away. 

Are there any major plot threads that haven't been addressed or tied up yet?

So far, we still need info on Coyote's plan for Loup, the missing memory, Zimmy's issues, the two Annies, the first timeline and how Kat time traveled, the Omega device, properties of the green arrow, the seed bismuth and the origins of the court. Oh and maybe what Jones actually is. Any I'm missing?

There's been the psychopomps' designs for Annie, potentially life-changing ones, and I would like to hear more about them.

[philman]

Nov 25, 2020 10:22:16 GMT aquamafia said:

So far, we still need info on Coyote's plan for Loup, the missing memory, Zimmy's issues, the two Annies, the first timeline and how Kat time traveled, the Omega device, properties of the green arrow, the seed bismuth and the origins of the court. Oh and maybe what Jones actually is. Any I'm missing?

I'm sure I remember Tom saying somewhere that Zimmy was a character he came up with long before he created Gunnerkrigg Court, and is a character he'd like to do more with after it ends too. So I don't know id Zimmy's issues will ever be fully addressed in this comic.

[AluK]

Nov 25, 2020 8:49:19 GMT arf said:

"And something else... those peyote mushrooms you told me never to eat are *cra-zy* bad!"

Peyote's a cactus psilocybes are mushies.

[speedwell]

Here we see a fictional character made up of two dead characters, addressing the after-death manifestation of one of the dead characters (as if it was a separate entity from himself) who professes to never have existed in the first place, upon finally figuring out that that means he not only doesn't exist himself, but will also die soon by the plan of (and perhaps even at the hands of) the non-existent dead character, who will doubtless react with glee when that happens.

[Gemminie]

Nov 25, 2020 10:22:16 GMT aquamafia said:

I'm sure a lot of people are getting the sense that the comic is approaching it's last storylines now. It's kinda wild isn't it? 
That "and something else" feels like it's hinting at Annie, what with the red streak and how Ysengrin straight up told Annie earlier that the Court's plotting involves taking her far far away. 

Are there any major plot threads that haven't been addressed or tied up yet?

So far, we still need info on Coyote's plan for Loup, the missing memory, Zimmy's issues, the two Annies, the first timeline and how Kat time traveled, the Omega device, properties of the green arrow, the seed bismuth and the origins of the court. Oh and maybe what Jones actually is. Any I'm missing?

There's also the relationship between Annie and her father, Annie's destiny (or two destinies maybe), the conflict between the Court and the Forest, Kat's destiny, Kat and Paz's relationship, Renard's destiny, Robot's destiny, the evolving robots' destiny, and Robot and Shadow's relationship. Maybe other things too. I think we've seen what the Seed Bismuth was, in general (a long time ago actually); we just don't know specifically how it happened.

[ctso74]

Nov 25, 2020 10:41:34 GMT migrantworker said:

Nov 25, 2020 10:22:16 GMT aquamafia said:

I'm sure a lot of people are getting the sense that the comic is approaching it's last storylines now. It's kinda wild isn't it? 
That "and something else" feels like it's hinting at Annie, what with the red streak and how Ysengrin straight up told Annie earlier that the Court's plotting involves taking her far far away. 

Are there any major plot threads that haven't been addressed or tied up yet?

So far, we still need info on Coyote's plan for Loup, the missing memory, Zimmy's issues, the two Annies, the first timeline and how Kat time traveled, the Omega device, properties of the green arrow, the seed bismuth and the origins of the court. Oh and maybe what Jones actually is. Any I'm missing?

There's been the psychopomps' designs for Annie, potentially life-changing ones, and I would like to hear more about them.

Which Annie? They kind of have a choice now. One Annie may want to pursue psychopomp activities, by the end of the story.

It seems these Loup pages are another side-story; Kat/Paz, Annies/Tony, Loup/Coyote. Where is Zimmy's framing narrative, going to lead her?

[pyradonis]

"And something else...2020 really was a crappy year."

[TBeholder]

Nov 25, 2020 8:09:37 GMT wies said:

I worry about what all this is doing to Ys' state of mind.

At this point?
Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor.

Nov 25, 2020 12:59:57 GMT AluK said:

Nov 25, 2020 8:49:19 GMT arf said:

"And something else... those peyote mushrooms you told me never to eat are *cra-zy* bad!"

Peyote's a cactus psilocybes are mushies.

Maybe it insists it's a mushroom? Then some confusion is understandable.

[ditchboyus]

Nov 25, 2020 11:08:50 GMT philman said:

Nov 25, 2020 10:22:16 GMT aquamafia said:

I'm sure I remember Tom saying somewhere that Zimmy was a character he came up with long before he created Gunnerkrigg Court, and is a character he'd like to do more with after it ends too. So I don't know id Zimmy's issues will ever be fully addressed in this comic.

Tom definitely said that Zimmy and Gamma were characters that were created before Gunnerkrigg, and that he had been thinking about doing a comic about them before he came up with the idea for Gunnerkrigg.  Don't know if he's said that he wants to do something about them after Gunnerkrigg ends, but it could be.  For anyone who's curious and doesn't already know, Jones and Tea were also created before he came up with the idea for Gunnerkrigg Court.

[Runningflame]

Nov 25, 2020 12:59:57 GMT AluK said:

Nov 25, 2020 8:49:19 GMT arf said:

"And something else... those peyote mushrooms you told me never to eat are *cra-zy* bad!"

Peyote's a cactus psilocybes are mushies.

Well then peyote mushrooms must mean both of them mixed together. Which really would be *cra-zy* bad!

[arf]

Nov 25, 2020 12:59:57 GMT AluK said:

Nov 25, 2020 8:49:19 GMT arf said:

"And something else... those peyote mushrooms you told me never to eat are *cra-zy* bad!"

Peyote's a cactus psilocybes are mushies.

"... you've put your finger on it, Renard!"
(Either could lead to the appearance of the current page)

[hen3ry]

So, quick extrapolation: So far, we've had 6 pages of non-Zimmy, 1 of Zimmy, 5 of non-Zimmy, 2 of Zimmy, so if the pattern continues, the chapter will take 42 pages in total (excluding title & end). Each of the non-Zimmy pages has so far dealt with a character disliked by the fandom at some point (Paz, Anthony, Loup) and a related dysfunctional (more or less) relationship. I don't think there are any more of these currently going on, the closest thing being perhaps Court administration (Jones and the headmaster?).

[pyradonis]

Nov 26, 2020 10:18:57 GMT hen3ry said:

So, quick extrapolation: So far, we've had 6 pages of non-Zimmy, 1 of Zimmy, 5 of non-Zimmy, 2 of Zimmy, so if the pattern continues, the chapter will take 42 pages in total (excluding title & end). Each of the non-Zimmy pages has so far dealt with a character disliked by the fandom at some point (Paz, Anthony, Loup) and a related dysfunctional relationship. I don't think there are any more of these currently going on, the closest thing being perhaps Court administration (Jones and the headmaster?).

Red & Ayilu? But AFAIK Tom said those two wouldn't appear again in the comic.

By the way, the relationship between Zimmy and Gamma is also dysfunctional and abusive, but for some reason no significant part of the fandom seems to vocally resent Zimmy for that.

[arf]

Nov 26, 2020 10:18:57 GMT hen3ry said:

So, quick extrapolation: So far, we've had 6 pages of non-Zimmy, 1 of Zimmy, 5 of non-Zimmy, 2 of Zimmy, so if the pattern continues, the chapter will take 42 pages in total (excluding title & end). Each of the non-Zimmy pages has so far dealt with a character disliked by the fandom at some point (Paz, Anthony, Loup) and a related dysfunctional (more or less) relationship. I don't think there are any more of these currently going on, the closest thing being perhaps Court administration (Jones and the headmaster?).

I think the progression has been showing couples coming to some sort of reconciliation, interspersed with Zimmy, who appears to have been separated from Gamma.
Other possible pairs:
- Robot and Shadow 2 (Shadow appeared somewhat concerned by Robot's messiah complex at one point, but that was some time ago now)
- Eglamore and Jones (concerning Idra... )
- Eglamore and Idra (... maybe not!!)
- William and Jane (what relationship?)
- Rabbit boy and *snuffle* (if *snuffle* was able to escape with the forest folk)
- Don and Anje (a debriefing)
- Lindsey and Bud (been a while)
- Brinnie and Verdandi (who is Brinny's mother in some versions of the myth)

[Gemminie]

Nov 26, 2020 10:18:57 GMT hen3ry said:

So, quick extrapolation: So far, we've had 6 pages of non-Zimmy, 1 of Zimmy, 5 of non-Zimmy, 2 of Zimmy, so if the pattern continues, the chapter will take 42 pages in total (excluding title & end). Each of the non-Zimmy pages has so far dealt with a character disliked by the fandom at some point (Paz, Anthony, Loup) and a related dysfunctional (more or less) relationship. I don't think there are any more of these currently going on, the closest thing being perhaps Court administration (Jones and the headmaster?).

Oh, I think the relationship between Robot and Shadow 2 is quite dysfunctional. Shadow is quite unhappy about Robot's obsession with Kat, questioning him at first, but Robot just brushes his questions aside. Robot starts acting like a prophet, preaching to the other robots, and Shadow's unhappy about it. But Robot doesn't care, even though he admits to having feelings for Shadow; he doesn't take Shadow's feelings into account or change what he's doing in any way whatsoever. He even seems to make secret plans that put everyone in danger. Shadow's seemingly stopped questioning Robot, but I doubt that means his feelings about this have gone away.

However, I don't think either of them is disliked by the fans. I mean, Shadow and Robot are the second and third continuing characters to be introduced.

[AluK]

Nov 26, 2020 2:56:24 GMT Runningflame said:

Nov 25, 2020 12:59:57 GMT AluK said:

Peyote's a cactus psilocybes are mushies.

Well then peyote mushrooms must mean both of them mixed together. Which really would be *cra-zy* bad!

I like how you think.

[najmniejszy]

Nov 26, 2020 12:17:43 GMT arf said:

Nov 26, 2020 10:18:57 GMT hen3ry said:

So, quick extrapolation: So far, we've had 6 pages of non-Zimmy, 1 of Zimmy, 5 of non-Zimmy, 2 of Zimmy, so if the pattern continues, the chapter will take 42 pages in total (excluding title & end). Each of the non-Zimmy pages has so far dealt with a character disliked by the fandom at some point (Paz, Anthony, Loup) and a related dysfunctional (more or less) relationship. I don't think there are any more of these currently going on, the closest thing being perhaps Court administration (Jones and the headmaster?).

I think the progression has been showing couples coming to some sort of reconciliation, interspersed with Zimmy, who appears to have been separated from Gamma.
Other possible pairs:
- Robot and Shadow 2 (Shadow appeared somewhat concerned by Robot's messiah complex at one point, but that was some time ago now)
- Eglamore and Jones (concerning Idra... )
- Eglamore and Idra (... maybe not!!)
- William and Jane (what relationship?)
- Rabbit boy and *snuffle* (if *snuffle* was able to escape with the forest folk)
- Don and Anje (a debriefing)
- Lindsey and Bud (been a while)
- Brinnie and Verdandi (who is Brinny's mother in some versions of the myth)

Basil and Bugsy, because we haven't seen either of them in a while, and they're getting lonely. Also, alliteration, because it's a comic after all

[bedinsis]

Nov 26, 2020 10:37:51 GMT pyradonis said:

By the way, the relationship between Zimmy and Gamma is also dysfunctional and abusive, but for some reason no significant part of the fandom seems to vocally resent Zimmy for that.

Probably because whenever Gamma has a chance to communicate in presence of the readers she seems to either be on at least friendly terms with Zimmy or to be standing up to her.

[pyradonis]

Nov 26, 2020 20:54:24 GMT bedinsis said:

Nov 26, 2020 10:37:51 GMT pyradonis said:

By the way, the relationship between Zimmy and Gamma is also dysfunctional and abusive, but for some reason no significant part of the fandom seems to vocally resent Zimmy for that.

Probably because whenever Gamma has a chance to communicate in presence of the readers she seems to either be on at least friendly terms with Zimmy or to be standing up to her.

That doesn't excuse Zimmy keeping Gamma from making any friends, lying to her and telling her everyone would say she is stupid and ugly. If that's not abusive behaviour, I don't know what it is. People criticized Paz as being possessive because she doesn't like one of Kat's friends. What is Zimmy then?

[bedinsis]

Nov 27, 2020 12:37:06 GMT pyradonis said:

Nov 26, 2020 20:54:24 GMT bedinsis said:

Probably because whenever Gamma has a chance to communicate in presence of the readers she seems to either be on at least friendly terms with Zimmy or to be standing up to her.

That doesn't excuse Zimmy keeping Gamma from making any friends, lying to her and telling her everyone would say she is stupid and ugly. If that's not abusive behaviour, I don't know what it is.

I agree.

[blahzor]

Nov 27, 2020 12:37:06 GMT pyradonis said:

Nov 26, 2020 20:54:24 GMT bedinsis said:

Probably because whenever Gamma has a chance to communicate in presence of the readers she seems to either be on at least friendly terms with Zimmy or to be standing up to her.

That doesn't excuse Zimmy keeping Gamma from making any friends, lying to her and telling her everyone would say she is stupid and ugly. If that's not abusive behaviour, I don't know what it is. People criticized Paz as being possessive because she doesn't like one of Kat's friends. What is Zimmy then?

A terrible translator who doesn't really speak english enough for Gamma to learn English

[clover]

We have only known Loup as an extremely young God, one that seems to have gone through childlike and adolescent phases and only now seems to have advanced to any kind of maturity. I wouldn't be surprised to find that his behavior has substantially changed to the point that it is not recognized.