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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 24, 2020 8:02:44 GMT
New chapter starts today. Is that a bucket in the new chapter icon?
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Post by madjack on Feb 24, 2020 8:07:57 GMT
There was a body of water with a boat on it in the last treatise. Given the chapter page image, a metaphor for the robot's horizons beginning to expand? |
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Post by arf on Feb 24, 2020 8:08:28 GMT
The title page looks like it might represent a head crabbed robot. No idea what the thumbnail might be.
I'm assuming the "she" refers to Jeanne (or Kat?), rather than Lettie Hempstock, who isn't even in this story.
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Post by philman on Feb 24, 2020 8:10:15 GMT
Well, more updates to the Robot Cult were due I suppose!
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Post by arf on Feb 24, 2020 8:15:00 GMT
There was a body of water with a boat on it in the last treatise. Given the chapter page image, a metaphor for the robot's horizons beginning to expand? I had thought it represented Jeanne and her beau sailing away into the ether. |
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Post by madjack on Feb 24, 2020 8:15:01 GMT
Well, more updates to the Robot Cult were due I suppose! I'd be pissed if we got to see the old robots wake up then BAM plot sidetrack. Edit: I had thought it represented Jeanne and her beau sailing away into the ether. Might well be both. |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Feb 24, 2020 8:18:06 GMT
New chapter starts today. Is that a bucket in the new chapter icon? Bucket or barrel, one or the other. but yeah, wood being held together by a metal band. And the title page image, even if it will probably NOT be this, looks to me like the lower half of a robot face, potentially a representation of it on a computer screen. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 24, 2020 8:22:17 GMT
I still think Kat should be able to remote puppeteer all the old robots with her compy but if for some reason she has returned them to a conscious state we might get info on the early days of the Court, which might include why there's a big lake (inland sea?).
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Post by arf on Feb 24, 2020 8:23:14 GMT
Whilst we're looking at treatise #8, I note the 'egg' suspended between Annie* and Kat has the cracks we see on Kat's etheric projection.
I wonder if it's suggesting she's the seed bismuth?
* and is this page where the original Annie's been hiding??
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Post by philman on Feb 24, 2020 9:06:41 GMT
Well, more updates to the Robot Cult were due I suppose! I'd be pissed if we got to see the old robots wake up then BAM plot sidetrack. Edit: I had thought it represented Jeanne and her beau sailing away into the ether. Might well be both. How is it a plot sidetrack? The chapter image looks exactly like a robot's head, and the chapter title sounds exactly like the language that Robot uses when talking about the Angel. Kat waking up the old machines to do her bidding, and to potentially free the other robots from their slavery to the chips in their heads, is yet another thing that can be interpreted by the Prophet Robot in his own weird twisted way to further the cause of the cult, and another step on the pathway to godhood. It is pretty much directly connected, not a sidetrack at all |
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Post by madjack on Feb 24, 2020 9:24:51 GMT
Which is what I meant. That I'd be pissed if we got sidetracked from that, and we aren't.
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Post by migrantworker on Feb 24, 2020 9:24:58 GMT
That does sound like a creation myth, is all I'm going to say for now.
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Post by Elysium on Feb 24, 2020 9:27:03 GMT
FINALLY, I was missing my creepy robot cult antics as much as I was missings my Zimmy shenanigans.
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Post by wies on Feb 24, 2020 9:36:48 GMT
Well, more updates to the Robot Cult were due I suppose! I'd be pissed if we got to see the old robots wake up then BAM plot sidetrack. That was exactly what I expected to happen. Consider me shocked for this apparently direct follow-up. Also, the red rectangle makes me think of the head crab, but the equality sign? Maybe the electrical symbol for direct current? Hmm, in the wikipedia it says it used to have the name galvanic current. Which is an interesting term that definitely would be thematically fitting. What is the difference between that experiment on frog leg muscles and Kat's attempt on the bird wing? She even says in that page that she wants to introduce an electrical current. And the ocean part makes me think of this page. This chapter seems to be the pay-off of some set-ups. Let the Katscension begin. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 24, 2020 9:45:58 GMT
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Post by saardvark on Feb 24, 2020 11:25:24 GMT
There was a body of water with a boat on it in the last treatise. Given the chapter page image, a metaphor for the robot's horizons beginning to expand? horizons expanding into an ocean of emotion? (hence the ocean they are given - by goddess Kat!) edit: emotion... and sensation, I should add. |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 24, 2020 11:29:32 GMT
I'd be pissed if we got to see the old robots wake up then BAM plot sidetrack. And the ocean part makes me think of this page. Fascinating, I immediately thought of this, which is basically what Robot is describing in your page. |
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Post by saardvark on Feb 24, 2020 11:47:30 GMT
I'd be pissed if we got to see the old robots wake up then BAM plot sidetrack. And the ocean part makes me think of this page. This chapter seems to be the pay-off of some set-ups. Let the Katscension begin. exactly! I hadn't clicked on your link before posting my last comment, but clearly we are thinking along the same lines... |
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Post by wies on Feb 24, 2020 12:46:43 GMT
In chrysosprax someone asks: Is it possible for a robot to, through its actions, accrue enough spiritual energy for that energy to coalesce into a new soul - its soul?
Tom answers: Is a pile of meat and bone able to create a soul with the energy in its brain?
In this page we are shown humans live and die with the churning electricity in their brain.
Add to that the possible electrical symbol for direct current (which also helps with the ocean image); and I am certain that electricity is an important part of what Kat brings to the robots, biological or not.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 24, 2020 16:52:05 GMT
“Is it a fact – or have I dreamt it – that, by means of electricity, the world of matter has become a great nerve, vibrating thousands of miles in a breathless point of time?”
― Nathaniel Hawthorne
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Post by aline on Feb 24, 2020 18:32:21 GMT
There was a body of water with a boat on it in the last treatise. Given the chapter page image, a metaphor for the robot's horizons beginning to expand? I had thought it represented Jeanne and her beau sailing away into the ether. Yes. The treatises are mostly a summary of past events, not future ones, and Jeanne leaving was a big event of that particular book. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 24, 2020 20:28:54 GMT
In chrysosprax someone asks: Is it possible for a robot to, through its actions, accrue enough spiritual energy for that energy to coalesce into a new soul - its soul?
Tom answers: Is a pile of meat and bone able to create a soul with the energy in its brain?
In this page we are shown humans live and die with the churning electricity in their brain.
Add to that the possible electrical symbol for direct current (which also helps with the ocean image); and I am certain that electricity is an important part of what Kat brings to the robots, biological or not.
There appears to be an enduring soul in the Gunnerverse since there are experiences after death but I'm not sure about an immortal soul; it seems that in the ether there is no continuance in any meaningful way. But my point was that transfiguration or salvation may not be coming to all robots. |
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 24, 2020 22:06:03 GMT
Well, more updates to the Robot Cult were due I suppose! I'd be pissed if we got to see the old robots wake up then BAM plot sidetrack. It could a backtrack. The wooden bucket/barrel makes me wonder, if we'll see some of the first models' history. The "she" could be more than one: Kat in the present, and another "she" in the past. That would be pretty cool. Then again, it could just be a bucket. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 24, 2020 22:34:26 GMT
New chapter starts today. Is that a bucket in the new chapter icon? You gotta scrub hard when brainwashing your robots. *shrug* WMG: This guy is moving up in the world. WMG #2: It's actually "a notion," said by somebody with a thick accent. "She gave us a notion." |
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Post by Per on Feb 25, 2020 0:01:04 GMT
Aren't "a drop in the bucket" and "a drop in the ocean" idioms that mean the same thing? It follows logically that buckets = oceans.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 4:25:07 GMT
Initially, I thought it referred to Annie, spoken by one of the forest elves. Perhaps their opinion of her will turn around, and she becomes an ambassador again. I'm pleasantly surprised by the prevalent idea here that it will be said about Kat and a figurative ocean as interpreted by Robot; but, of course, I'd like it best if both should turn out true. It's a good chapter title, markedly so. Rouses the old inward smile again. |
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Post by laaaa on Feb 25, 2020 13:37:11 GMT
Oh God, I just realised where this is going.
Robots are no longer souless objects, property of the Court or others'. They are their own beings.
This means they can probably move the ether.
And they have this creepy cult where Kat is their "angel" and they believe it with their whole being.
Kat's going to turn into this precisely BECAUSE they believe it.
That moment when Kat electrocuted the ship robot and Paz saw her mecca form? The change has STARTED TO SEEP IN ALREADY. Paz saw her (at that moment) true form. It was what the robot beloeved was going on.
AAAAAAARGH.
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Post by Per on Feb 25, 2020 14:37:25 GMT
Kat's going to turn into this precisely BECAUSE they believe it. That's a popular theory since circa 2013, yes.  |
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Post by laaaa on Feb 25, 2020 14:44:58 GMT
Kat's going to turn into this precisely BECAUSE they believe it. That's a popular theory since circa 2013, yes. Ahaha I think it shows that I visit the forum once in a blue moon!  I felt like I made a groundbreaking discovery haha! |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 25, 2020 15:12:03 GMT
That's a popular theory since circa 2013, yes. Ahaha I think it shows that I visit the forum once in a blue moon! I felt like I made a groundbreaking discovery haha! But if it turns out to be true you can still be proud you got the idea by yourself! |
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I felt like I made a groundbreaking discovery haha!