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Post by gpvos on May 20, 2019 20:17:49 GMT
Too stubborn to learn modern languages, huh? So etheric contracts are probably written in COBOL.
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Post by tustin2121 on May 20, 2019 21:43:01 GMT
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Post by netherdan on May 20, 2019 22:31:18 GMT
What's the Etheric Science version of StackOverflow? I'm sure there is something at StackExchange to cover that Edit: There isn't. This is the closest I could find: parenting.stackexchange.com/ welp... |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 20, 2019 22:53:58 GMT
Too stubborn to learn modern languages, huh? So etheric contracts are probably written in COBOL. ... on paper punch cards. |
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Post by pyradonis on May 20, 2019 23:06:50 GMT
Now here's something I'd very much like to ask Tom: - Do all the gods in the Gunnerverse know they're inside a webcomic or just some of them? I know Coyote does and aside from maybe Loup he's the only known god so far The Chinese moon goddess Chang'e visited GKC, as narrated by Matt in "Faraway Morning". But it was only confirmed in Tom's comment, that it was Chang'e.
Thirdly: she may not have to waive her humanity, but accepting her share of divinity makes sense. It would continue the nice parallelism of Annie and Kat's evolution - Annie had to accept her psychopomp role, and now Kat may have to accept her godhood - both regretfully. This is reminding me of a D&D campaign, where the characters at the end of the campaign are basically destined to ascend to godhood in some way. But it still feels like we're at level 17 or so and not 20 quite yet, so I don't know that she'll just be given godhood so soon. That's not to say this won't be a precursor to godhood. She'll be required to take additional classes and then take the divine exam before becoming a goddess in two or three years.
Too stubborn to learn modern languages, huh? So etheric contracts are probably written in COBOL. ... on paper punch cards. .
This can't be more than the second or third time we've seen on-panel that Kat has made a mistake. Does "not realizing the robots are building a religion around her" count? |
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Post by todd on May 21, 2019 0:16:24 GMT
Does "not realizing the robots are building a religion around her" count? An understandable slip on Kat's part, because all of the scenes about the robot religion take place when no humans (including Kat) are around to observe them. Though I'd count also as a mistake her not considering the possibility that the robots might misinterpret her casual remarks - though the scenes when they proceeded to show how they were misinterpreting her remarks also took place when she and the other human characters weren't within earshot. I certainly think that this intervention has nothing to do with the robot religion, concern about robots having souls, or anything else of this nature - that it's happening only because Kat used Diego's arrow to help transfer Reynardine's ownership back to Annie and that if she'd just given him back to her the same way that Annie had given him to her, these beings wouldn't have shown up. |
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Post by Runningflame on May 21, 2019 0:16:53 GMT
Lots of nerds of various types here... the richness and multi-layered complexity of GC attracts nerdy analysis like bears to honey! And we nerds love reading about our own. Nah, Lisp is too elegant--it shall never be entirely forgotten! Saslamel's language is probably more like GEORGE. |
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Post by jda on May 21, 2019 0:33:42 GMT
What's the Etheric Science version of StackOverflow? |
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Post by jda on May 21, 2019 2:09:45 GMT
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Post by jda on May 21, 2019 2:12:35 GMT
Someone do a BigNerdlingers Survey to see what the more represented Nerd Field here is.
Computers
Internet
Archery
Alchemy, etc
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Post by madjack on May 21, 2019 2:36:42 GMT
Someone do a BigNerdlingers Survey to see what is the more represented Nerd Field here is. Computers Internet Archery Alchemy, etc Mythology??? |
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Post by Kuraimizu on May 21, 2019 5:43:07 GMT
hmm it seems that those that guessed kat cut and pasted the wrong bit of code were right.
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Post by hnau on May 21, 2019 7:49:27 GMT
I think that Kat's way of reversing the transfer, using Diego's arrow, is the most likely explanation for Annie and Reynardine's contract being involved with Kat's experiment. Nothing happened - on the surface level - when Kat used Diego's arrow to transfer Reynardine's ownership back to Annie. In which case, there was seemingly no reason (from a narrative perspective) for Kat to be shown using the arrow, or to undertake any such complicated high-tech procedure. But if something *did* go wrong then, but didn't show itself at the time, so that they're only finding out about that now, then Kat's way of doing it *does* have a plot point. In real life, there are organisations and protocols used to assign unique addresses and namespaces. Probably, Kat just needs to apply for her own Etheric Protocol Address at the Ethernet Assigned Numbers Authority and generate a new Etheric Unique Identifier for the new contract. ... Little spook will move on to next discuss the main violation here: a dispute about to be caused concerning (etheric) ownership. Im suspecting that Kat copied the etheric ownership protocol when ownership of Rey was returned to Annie (now Annies). She is using this - not to do the brain transfer - but rather to break the Court's (etheric, apparently) ownership of Arthur, and transfer it to Arthur himself.... giving him free will, which might also incidentally be another component of en-souling him. ... ... I hereby predict that in order to grant the new creature "free will" Kat will have to waive her humanity and accept her divinity. You can probably "create" life, mind, personality, individuality, "make them flesh" and whatnot but the last step for a full fledged creature is free will, and you can only create full fledged beings if you're a registered Divine Being™ at the Godly Union. ... If there are contracts for every living soul, this is less about free will, and more about predestination. |
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Post by Eily on May 21, 2019 10:11:42 GMT
"Whoever built the thing knew exactly what they were doing." That's kinda ominous. I hope it doesn't mean that there's a failsafe that was triggered by Jeanne being freed. Rey looks alright, but it looks like he (and Annie) got bound to the arrow somehow, either because Kat made some mistake, or because Annie was the one to break the previous binding (between Jeanne, the waters and Green Guy) with Reynard already bound to her. I hope the new contract is not someone getting trapped the way Jeanne and her boyfriend were. |
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Post by coastal on May 21, 2019 12:40:58 GMT
Well, I'm a linguist and I don't know much about computers, so all I have to say about today's page is that I find the interpreter's use of the singular pronoun "her" to refer to "the Annies" quite interesting.
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Post by pyradonis on May 21, 2019 13:44:16 GMT
Does "not realizing the robots are building a religion around her" count? An understandable slip on Kat's part, because all of the scenes about the robot religion take place when no humans (including Kat) are around to observe them. Though I'd count also as a mistake her not considering the possibility that the robots might misinterpret her casual remarks - though the scenes when they proceeded to show how they were misinterpreting her remarks also took place when she and the other human characters weren't within earshot. You mean except for calling her "Angel" and "Creator" and catering to her every wish (e.g. providing her all the equipment she asks for). Did Kat never think that something about this behavior is not right? |
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Post by pyradonis on May 21, 2019 13:48:11 GMT
Well, let's face it, Kat used the wrong network technology.
Of course she should have hooked it all up with...guess what?... Ethernet.
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Post by saardvark on May 21, 2019 14:18:51 GMT
Well, let's face it, Kat used the wrong network technology. Of course she should have hooked it all up with...guess what?... Ethernet. ba-dump kissh!  |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on May 21, 2019 14:36:49 GMT
Well, I'm a linguist and I don't know much about computers, so all I have to say about today's page is that I find the interpreter's use of the singular pronoun "her" to refer to "the Annies" quite interesting. To him there is only one person... just... shifted. |
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Post by ohthatone on May 21, 2019 14:54:36 GMT
Someone do a BigNerdlingers Survey to see what the more represented Nerd Field here is. Computers Internet Archery Alchemy, etc Grammar? Anime? |
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Post by tustin2121 on May 21, 2019 15:22:10 GMT
Well, I'm a linguist and I don't know much about computers, so all I have to say about today's page is that I find the interpreter's use of the singular pronoun "her" to refer to "the Annies" quite interesting. Well, he did say the contract was single use (likely meaning a 1-to-1 relationship), and he did casually pass off her current condition as "shifted" (implying that it's not unheard of for there to be two physical beings representing one entity at a given period of time). So it's likely just the case that in the terms of the etheric contract, the Annies are one person, and thus he refers to them as such. |
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Post by jda on May 21, 2019 15:34:40 GMT
Well, I think all these deaths were actually feeding Kat's becoming deity. Robot decyphered that (ha!) before the Torn Sea* and knows that every robotic death fuels Kat's deification, and behold, Kat now is able to create things out of thin air. Soon, applying that logic, Kat will be able to transport herself via her computer, being factually omnipresent. Don't get fooled by InterpretGuy nonchalance when addressing Kat. Soon, there may be some equivalent of "Well, all this contract mess could be waivered by the local Goddess filling the right forms (passing some etheric printed papers to Kat)" Kat: What? Everyone else: .....? Robot: It was worth it. *Even setting up WhaleLoveBoat to die as a boost for that Ether enhancement? even filling his roboears with the idea of loving Lindsey? |
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Post by kite on May 21, 2019 16:07:29 GMT
The caveat is that Kat pressed the button, right? So if one of the Annies does it there's no problem? Unless Kat being the instigator is something written into the code. But then the Annies could just give Renard to her again to make the transfer go through. Either way I'm guessing either Arthur and Renardine will have a heartwarming friendship or we'll see some kind of dissolution of the contract.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 21, 2019 16:18:26 GMT
Someone do a BigNerdlingers Survey to see what the more represented Nerd Field here is. Computers Internet Archery Alchemy, etc Grammar? Anime? Probably comics/manga. |
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Post by novia on May 21, 2019 17:04:46 GMT
- Do all the gods in the Gunnerverse know they're inside a webcomic or just some of them? I know Coyote does and aside from maybe Loup he's the only known god so far Do you have a source for that assertion? |
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Post by pyradonis on May 21, 2019 17:59:34 GMT
- Do all the gods in the Gunnerverse know they're inside a webcomic or just some of them? I know Coyote does and aside from maybe Loup he's the only known god so far Do you have a source for that assertion? But he could also just be screwing with Annie. Well, I think all these deaths were actually feeding Kat's becoming deity. Robot decyphered that (ha!) before the Torn Sea* and knows that every robotic death fuels Kat's deification, and behold, Kat now is able to create things out of thin air. Soon, applying that logic, Kat will be able to transport herself via her computer, being factually omnipresent. Don't get fooled by InterpretGuy nonchalance when addressing Kat. Soon, there may be some equivalent of "Well, all this contract mess could be waivered by the local Goddess filling the right forms (passing some etheric printed papers to Kat)" Kat: What? Everyone else: .....? Robot: It was worth it. *Even setting up WhaleLoveBoat to die as a boost for that Ether enhancement? even filling his roboears with the idea of loving Lindsey? That is a cool theory! Although the ship claims having been in love with Lindsey for several years, Robot might very well have played the metaphorical little devil on the shoulder, urging the ship to finally act on its desires. Well, I'm a linguist and I don't know much about computers, so all I have to say about today's page is that I find the interpreter's use of the singular pronoun "her" to refer to "the Annies" quite interesting. Well, he did say the contract was single use (likely meaning a 1-to-1 relationship), and he did casually pass off her current condition as "shifted" (implying that it's not unheard of for there to be two physical beings representing one entity at a given period of time). So it's likely just the case that in the terms of the etheric contract, the Annies are one person, and thus he refers to them as such. Or, to keep it short and the theme going: person fAnnie = Annie; person& cAnnie = fAnnie; |
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Post by todd on May 22, 2019 0:08:02 GMT
You mean except for calling her "Angel" and "Creator" and catering to her every wish (e.g. providing her all the equipment she asks for). Did Kat never think that something about this behavior is not right? Good point. I'd forgotten that they'd called her that directly. I suspect that Kat (and almost everyone else at Court) underestimates the robots because of their "comic relief" tone. And Kat may be too focused on her project to pay attention to the implications of their remarks. |
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Post by todd on May 22, 2019 0:10:19 GMT
That is a cool theory! Although the ship claims having been in love with Lindsey for several years, Robot might very well have played the metaphorical little devil on the shoulder, urging the ship to finally act on its desires. Or maybe the ship was just pretending to be in love with Lindsey, playing the role of the over-the-top obsessive suitor to keep Kat from figuring out the real reason for what the robots were doing. |
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Post by pyradonis on May 22, 2019 11:40:44 GMT
That is a cool theory! Although the ship claims having been in love with Lindsey for several years, Robot might very well have played the metaphorical little devil on the shoulder, urging the ship to finally act on its desires. Or maybe the ship was just pretending to be in love with Lindsey, playing the role of the over-the-top obsessive suitor to keep Kat from figuring out the real reason for what the robots were doing. In that case, the ship was much better at lying than other robots ("NOT A secret base"). |
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Post by todd on May 22, 2019 12:45:09 GMT
In that case, the ship was much better at lying than other robots ("NOT A secret base"). Good point, though Robot might be good at "lying by omission" - successfully concealing his part in the business from Annie and Kat. After the ship's "over-the-top" cry of "It is the only way!" when Paz pointed out that his interest in Lindsay was adulterous, we hear nothing more about its desire for Lindsay - not even an exchange between it and Lindsay when she intervenes at the end. (The ship also neglected to address - as far as we can tell - the fact that after its actions, the Court is hardly going to allow it to be at liberty to live with Lindsay, even if she *had* accepted it. Unless it and Lindsay were to flee into self-imposed exile immediately afterwards, going into hiding. Presumably the short-sightedness of mad passion.) |
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