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Post by pyradonis on May 10, 2019 19:10:29 GMT
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Post by Runningflame on May 10, 2019 19:33:00 GMT
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Post by Eversist on May 10, 2019 20:14:18 GMT
You know, I can't help but wonder if it's relevant that Juliette backed out and Kat was the one to press the button. I don't know how it could be, but it almost feels a little suspect. Yeah, would Juliette be the "god" if she had pressed the button? ;P Usually when reality warping effects happen, the comic panel borders start warping too, and I guess the border to the left is slanted, so maybe warping is starting to happen? And will happen more next page? Nice catch! I looked back through the chapter and the comic panels have been perfectly straight until now. Things are definitely getting etheric up in here It looked like to me that the purple/grey stripes of the walls were turned to black, perhaps for dramatic/visually isolating reasons, but maybe also to denote etheric intervention... it's a good observation. A part of me feels like it's Loup coming busting in with a root, haha. |
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Post by keef on May 10, 2019 20:23:43 GMT
That text there...  I bet it was Robot who suggested they place that "incubator" there.You know, I can't help but wonder if it's relevant that Juliette backed out and Kat was the one to press the button. I don't know how it could be, but it almost feels a little suspect. Yeah, would Juliette be the "god" if she had pressed the button? ;P A minor profet at most  , but it could never happen; Robot's eyes were starting to burn holes in her backActually the most "logical" explanation of a wall starting to cave in when a giant tree forms roots under a city. |
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Post by pyradonis on May 10, 2019 22:45:40 GMT
Why did the panel at the wall vanish ? [EDITed:] and more than that... - the mechanical unit next to the pod with the attachment cord has vanished (?? possibility A) - or just its cord and top box vanished and it has been displaced to the right (? possibility B) - the second mechanical unit next to the pod (at a bit more distance) is gone (warped out of frame?? possibility B) or is strangely unaffected (possibility A) - Kat, the Annies, and Rey are gone (ditto? or they just ran away when the warpage started??) - the pod door is not open (HAL forgot? being surly as usual?) - and yes, the panel on the wall is gone (or warped thru the wall??) I think possibility B is more likely, since the remaining mechanical unit post-stream-venting is clearly a stack of two modules. some serious reality/spatial distortion going on, or something even weirder?? Monday beckons with a boatload of puzzles to answer... I am sure it is possibility B. Looking at panel 3, 7 then 8 makes it clear the equipment is being pushed away from the incubator. Furthermore looking at panel 2 of this page confirms the incubator is pushing itself away from the wall (or pushing away the wall from itself(hello Einstein)) - it was standing directly next to the wall before the waking up procedure. |
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Post by netherdan on May 11, 2019 0:15:54 GMT
imaginaryfriend 's suggestion got me thinking that it's not just his "source code"/memory that's being transferred. It is well in the realm of possibility that the contraption that Kat installed nearby Arthur is transferring actual physical components from his body and the body growing vat is converting them from "parts" to "organs" by running them through Juliette's brain algorithm and other possible organ building algorithms. I don't know why it would need to be done that way but that would avoid the SOMA problem and explain the three teke teke sounds produced by both ends during the transfer. What the hell is happening anyway? Why did the panel at the wall vanish ? Maybe what is happening is a Feedback Loop in the matter transfer algorithm and the vat is incorporating any technological equipment nearby (which may or may not include a certain Robot) into Arthur's body while distorting spacetime and drawing the attention of pomps and ghosts. "I am Root"? |
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Post by madjack on May 11, 2019 1:40:06 GMT
Wildspec: Perhaps an etheric distortion (if that's what it is) on this scale will be noticed by others who aren't necessarily looking for one. Like the Court.
Edit: Or Zimmy. Thanks jda.
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Post by jda on May 11, 2019 3:14:34 GMT
Likely events: -Kat angel appears in the wall -etheric shenanigans about creating life -RoTD people stepping in Less likely but it would be really funny: -Coyote pops through the doorway to reveal that he's still alive and cookin' and would like very much to know how Kat made a whole soul The Coyote possibility was what I suspected!( Or at least Loup) |
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Post by unbalanced on May 11, 2019 3:21:23 GMT
I was assuming that the smoke from the tube is similar to the smoke in The Torn Sea, since they're both related to body creation. If that's right then whatever etheric by-product is venting out of the tube would naturally be affecting the space around it. |
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Post by jda on May 11, 2019 4:32:27 GMT
Long time no see you, Zimmy
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Post by dramastix on May 11, 2019 6:37:01 GMT
Yeah, would Juliette be the "god" if she had pressed the button? ;P A minor profet at most , but it could never happen; Robot's eyes were starting to burn holes in her back Oh absolutely, it needed to be Kat to press the button, that was my thought as well. With regards to the visual - it's almost like expanding space, right? Everything getting farther away from everything else, Big Bang style. My guess is it'll contract back down once whatever is arriving... gets here. But if it's the Angel Kat, then where does that leave Real Kat? How will Robot (and the rest) relate to the two of them if they become separate entities? |
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Post by jda on May 11, 2019 6:43:43 GMT
All Hail the Seed Bismuth, Angel, Goddess, the Terrible! The One that makes all organic Machine, and all machine Organic!
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Post by jda on May 11, 2019 6:51:32 GMT
That text there... I bet it was Robot who suggested they place that "incubator" there.Wild Wild Spec: Kat: Ummmm, weird! That soul was not coming from Arthur... Pshhhhht; (body case opening, organo-metallic body stepping out) Diego: Seems like I was right in my descendant being able to call me forth from the dead realm. |
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Post by Runningflame on May 11, 2019 8:55:42 GMT
Wild Wild Spec: Kat: Ummmm, weird! That soul was not coming from Arthur... Pshhhhht; (body case opening, organo-metallic body stepping out) Diego: Seems like I was right in my descendant being able to call me forth from the dead realm. Kat:  * BAP* |
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Post by Futurismo on May 11, 2019 19:57:11 GMT
A minor profet at most , but it could never happen; Robot's eyes were starting to burn holes in her back Oh absolutely, it needed to be Kat to press the button, that was my thought as well. With regards to the visual - it's almost like expanding space, right? Everything getting farther away from everything else, Big Bang style. My guess is it'll contract back down once whatever is arriving... gets here. But if it's the Angel Kat, then where does that leave Real Kat? How will Robot (and the rest) relate to the two of them if they become separate entities? I'm thinking that Real Kat would just transition into Angel Kat from everyone else' perspective. Or maybe Kat gets double vision? |
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Post by saardvark on May 11, 2019 21:32:14 GMT
What is even happening? That effect in the second to last panel could be some weird camera thing, but then it could be the archway suddenly trying to tumble down onto the pod? But then the last panel has the archway stretching? Or is it flopping backwards? Or are those cracks forming that look like folds? Or is the camera being wibbly again? I'm so confused as to what I'm supposed to be seeing. Usually when reality warping effects happen, the comic panel borders start warping too, and I guess the border to the left is slanted, so maybe warping is starting to happen? And will happen more next page? The archway and the opening are even more visible here, a few chapters later: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=638Which, by the way, places the opening in the middle of the archway, but in this page, the archway is to the left-hand side. Maybe that's what's happening then? Space-time is stretching in such a way that the opening has been shunted to the side, and the middle of the arch has gotten bigger? ...Are we about to see an outer god of some sort step through the archway or something...? In the 2nd to last panel, the bricks in the arch even seem to be separating on the left - like it is being stretched and pulled over the incubator; then (last panel) bent back the other way. The etheric force of creating a new life form, maybe a new soul!, is stretching reality like taffy. Maybe! The page you cite (p638) clearly shows that it is normally a perfectly ordinary vertical arch... |
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Post by csj on May 12, 2019 10:22:59 GMT
Looks like everything is turning up spiders
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Post by csj on May 12, 2019 10:23:56 GMT
Diego: Seems like I was right in my descendant being able to call me forth from the dead realm. but will he do the Monster Mash? |
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Post by pyradonis on May 12, 2019 10:50:40 GMT
I was assuming that the smoke from the tube is similar to the smoke in The Torn Sea, since they're both related to body creation. If that's right then whatever etheric by-product is venting out of the tube would naturally be affecting the space around it. Hm, I always understood that the smoke in The Torn Sea was burning flesh, since it only appears when Kat electrocutes the half-formed whale body. |
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Post by keef on May 12, 2019 17:51:38 GMT
But if it's the Angel Kat, then where does that leave Real Kat? How will Robot (and the rest) relate to the two of them if they become separate entities? I thought: Just a thought: From the moment a robot "dies" who believes in Kat the Angel, there are two different people. Kat the angel, who is of the ether and so has always existed like the guides and gods like Coyote (and looks like Zimmy's vision), and the real Kat. Still should be all in wild spec really, tomorrow we will know more (but how much more... maybe only a lot of smoke and the door of the pod slowly opens...) Or: In the 2nd to last panel, the bricks in the arch even seem to be separating on the left - like it is being stretched and pulled over the incubator; then (last panel) bent back the other way... A lot of bricks moving:
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Post by pyradonis on May 13, 2019 8:09:55 GMT
But if it's the Angel Kat, then where does that leave Real Kat? How will Robot (and the rest) relate to the two of them if they become separate entities? I thought: Just a thought: From the moment a robot "dies" who believes in Kat the Angel, there are two different people. Kat the angel, who is of the ether and so has always existed like the guides and gods like Coyote (and looks like Zimmy's vision), and the real Kat. Still should be all in wild spec really, tomorrow we will know more (but how much more... maybe only a lot of smoke and the door of the pod slowly opens...) Or: In the 2nd to last panel, the bricks in the arch even seem to be separating on the left - like it is being stretched and pulled over the incubator; then (last panel) bent back the other way... A lot of bricks moving:
There is only one problem with that: Robots do not have souls, so nothing goes to the Ether when they "die".
Cookies to you for realizing the bricks would form the chapter cover!
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, but it could never happen; Robot's eyes were starting to burn holes in her back
*BAP*
