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Post by Yin on Jul 30, 2008 7:01:23 GMT
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Post by edzepp on Jul 30, 2008 7:13:18 GMT
Man Annie looked strange back in the day. Seeing these two strips side by side blows my mind.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jul 30, 2008 7:40:56 GMT
Nice.
No antimony logo. I was expecting this to be the end of the chapter.
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Post by mudmaniac on Jul 30, 2008 7:49:21 GMT
The flashback in recent art style seems to give annie a "Sad girl in the snow" aura.
Were it open to request, I would very much like the ending epilogue to be Kat, Annie and the Gang visiting Basil, and having tea.
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Post by Count Casimir on Jul 30, 2008 7:53:22 GMT
It is interesting to see how the art has changed by comparing the two winsburys.
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Post by popo on Jul 30, 2008 7:58:06 GMT
man, winsbury has/had some crazy hair. dude looks all super saiyan.
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Post by maxie on Jul 30, 2008 10:34:00 GMT
The flashback in recent art style seems to give annie a "Sad girl in the snow" aura. Were it open to request, I would very much like the ending epilogue to be Kat, Annie and the Gang visiting Basil, and having tea. Ah yes, I had forgotten about him actually.
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Post by ronokki on Jul 30, 2008 15:33:06 GMT
with the exception of showing the improvement in the art, this update is unnecessary and only helps to slow the pace of the story
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Post by popo on Jul 30, 2008 16:22:57 GMT
it helps set up whatever the next page is gonna be
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Post by nikita on Jul 30, 2008 19:16:47 GMT
with the exception of showing the improvement in the art, this update is unnecessary and only helps to slow the pace of the story It's probably a necessary page to complete the flashback story line on this chapter.
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Post by ronokki on Jul 31, 2008 0:00:09 GMT
with the exception of showing the improvement in the art, this update is unnecessary and only helps to slow the pace of the story It's probably a necessary page to complete the flashback story line on this chapter. I personally can not see how it would be. We learn nothing new and the comic is not long enough for a recap to be needed.
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Post by Per on Jul 31, 2008 1:31:47 GMT
I'm pretty sure it's intended to fit into the composition and pacing of this chapter specifically. It's not necessary to assume it's intended as a recap for the benefit of people who can't remember chapter 2.
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Post by King Mir on Jul 31, 2008 1:32:48 GMT
It brings closure to the flashback, and ties the current story in. It establishes that Kat has finally achieved what she longed for at the start of school: a place to fit in. And the day she met Annie was the key to that.
It is possible that the next page may also be in flashback to help make this connection more obvious.
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Post by Per on Jul 31, 2008 2:07:04 GMT
It could show Kat and Annie walking together down the hall towards the bright sunlight of the playground, flanked by a collage of minotaurs, sword ladies, regional fairies and much crazy stuff. This page wouldn't look so bad then,
would it
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Post by mudmaniac on Jul 31, 2008 4:19:03 GMT
I personally can not see how it would be. We learn nothing new and the comic is not long enough for a recap to be needed. Well, from my point of view, it's not really a recap, so much as a different point of view on the same scene. When first we see Annie and Kat becoming friends, Annie is seen as a cold, unshakable girl, whereas Kat is this bubbly "friends with everyone" girl who wants to bring Annie out of her shell. Now, we see that Annie was actually a sheltered girl spending most of her childhood with etheric spirits, unable to make friends with other children because she had to stay in the hospital. Kat, on the other hand, spent most of her time growing up amongst teachers of the court, facing a social stigma that also made it hard to befriend other children. Knowing their history now, I see two people that have more in common with each other than initially revealed, becoming fast friends as a result.
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Post by monkeybucks on Jul 31, 2008 7:52:07 GMT
with the exception of showing the improvement in the art, this update is unnecessary and only helps to slow the pace of the story This comment is unnecessary and only helps to clog the board. There's not really any exception.
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Post by mudmaniac on Jul 31, 2008 8:57:36 GMT
Hehe.
FLASHBACK TIIIIIIIME!!
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Post by Klex on Jul 31, 2008 10:15:33 GMT
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Post by Per on Jul 31, 2008 14:35:29 GMT
A few of the comments looked as if Tom had made a temporary edit of the page (like he did for this), which is however gone now. Did anyone happen to save it?
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Post by ronokki on Jul 31, 2008 17:25:26 GMT
with the exception of showing the improvement in the art, this update is unnecessary and only helps to slow the pace of the story This comment is unnecessary and only helps to clog the board. There's not really any exception. why because I am not permitted to say when an update doesn't seem up to par? re. mudmaniac: I see your point, but in my opinion having a flashback page of something we have already seen to help establish that changed in perspective is not the best way to do it.
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Post by Tom Siddell on Jul 31, 2008 18:01:44 GMT
I am not permitted to say when an update doesn't seem up to par? Who said this? There will be no persecution complexes on this board.
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Post by kilthmal on Jul 31, 2008 20:28:04 GMT
A page doesn't have to give new pieces of the plot every update. Many people read for different things. Some read for the art, seeing how Tom's art has evolved made me happy. Some read for characterization. The way Tom has presented this page certainly gives a richer luster to Kat first appearance. Some read for the funny. Some read for the puzzle of figuring out Tom's obscure references. Some read to finally see the Kat/Annie kiss we're all anticipating. Just because this particular update doesn't directly address what you're looking for doesn't mean it is wasted. If Tom goes 2 or more chapters without addressing the "Plot" and mysteries of Gunnerkrigg Court then you definitely have a reason for complaint.
Sometimes I'm a little disappointed by the seeming lack of advancement in this and other story heavy webcomics. The cure for that is usually a reread of the archives. When I take a moment to look at the bigger picture I notice how much I enjoy the quiet moments of the comic. My impatience is a product of the webcomic medium. So while I wish Tom was putting out 10 pages a day, every day, I understand that that is just not feasible. If you want to get plot every time you read you have the option to wait a few weeks between checking back. Or you can take my tack of appreciating every free update for what it offers.
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Post by Klex on Jul 31, 2008 20:47:47 GMT
This is certainly the least place I expected to have trolls. Because you (ronokki) are one.
By the way, I'm constantly rereading half the whole comic a week, and I understand that it IS a whole, not a bunch of linear pages. thus explaining the slow-paced moments.
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Post by Tom Siddell on Jul 31, 2008 20:56:52 GMT
This is certainly the least place I expected to have trolls. Because you (ronokki) are one. We'll not be having any of this either. Ronokki was just stating his opinion, and there is nothing wrong with that. The comic is certainly open to criticism, and people on the forum can discuss their criticisms as much as they want. People are also allowed to disagree with other people's opinions without resorting to namecalling. Just keep it civil. No lashing out (even if it's in defence of the comic).
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Post by monkeybucks on Aug 1, 2008 5:53:53 GMT
I just really felt like making that joke, sorry ronokki. Hope no one was offended. Also I wanted to express my disagreement, but not in a horrible way . Anyway. Maybe my jokes need footnotes to explain them too. Edit - Also, after reading kilthmal's comment, I'm in complete agreement with him.
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Post by jubal on Aug 1, 2008 7:32:42 GMT
I actually don't wish Tom was churning out 10 pages a day.
1. It's a nice pace, I don't get behind on reading it (main reason I stopped reading some comics, away for a fortnight and you have 14 strips to churn through even when you're busy and catching up on work...) 2. GKC would be over REALLY fast. Like maybe by Christmas. I want this comic to last me up to (and preferably past) GCSEs, darnit!
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Post by ronokki on Aug 1, 2008 10:50:32 GMT
I just really felt like making that joke, sorry ronokki. Hope no one was offended. Also I wanted to express my disagreement, but not in a horrible way . Anyway. Maybe my jokes need footnotes to explain them too. Edit - Also, after reading kilthmal's comment, I'm in complete agreement with him. no problem, last forum i posted on with an regularity was basically a retched hive of scum and villainy so i got in the habit of seeing most things as a slight (cause on that board most thing were). don't worry i fall out of habits like that quickly
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Post by david on Aug 1, 2008 11:00:04 GMT
A few of the comments looked as if Tom had made a temporary edit of the page (like he did for this), which is however gone now. Did anyone happen to save it? He did ; I think it was a "see let me explain this to you" kind of joke. The first and last panels were blurred and "FLASHBACK TIME", "END OF FLASHBACK" (or something like this), respectively, was written in big letters on top of them. There were commentary boxes everywhere on the rest of the comic, with explanations like "meanwhile, in chapter 2, which means, in the past" "this is antimony, protagonist, blabla", "this is kat, whose mother told her to try and befriend her old classmate's daughter" (I'm rewriting it, I don't happen to remember the exact wording). Tom also suggested the choice to follow Annie rather than remaining with the rest of the class might have been a crossroads for Kat. I shall try and see whether this version still is in my browser cache.
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Post by Tom Siddell on Aug 1, 2008 11:27:58 GMT
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Post by Per on Aug 1, 2008 11:35:41 GMT
Thanks!
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