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Post by csj on Feb 27, 2019 11:17:24 GMT
Never say that in front of Spanish Squirrel Girl
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Post by netherdan on Feb 27, 2019 12:36:00 GMT
Sylvie trying to get Courtnie to open up a bit more now that she seems to show moe about herself? Immediately imagines Antimony in a Bunny Girl Senpai costume Also also also: Where water keeps going up(!), and comic illumination physics continue to apply It has electrical conduits on the wall so we can presume lighting fixtures from now on... Though it didn't seem lit from the outside
PS: You can do that with PIR sensors and a bit of coding or "technological wizardry" (in Reynard's words) |
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Post by sleepcircle on Feb 27, 2019 14:23:51 GMT
Annie does not even need to possess a particular meanness to have such a thought. Be honest, how many of you here have never entertained a similar thought towards a person who acted nasty to you? i agree. anyway who says they've never thought something similar about anything is probably lying. |
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 27, 2019 15:05:59 GMT
Sylvie trying to get Courtnie to open up a bit more now that she seems to show moe about herself? Immediately imagines Antimony in a Bunny Girl Senpai costume I fully support this. I think she's a bad influence on her... herself? Honestly though, I've been so focused on how terrible it might be, to have to share all your stuff with a duplicate, that I failed to consider the two of them forming their own clique (echo chamber). That might not end well. |
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Post by ohthatone on Feb 27, 2019 15:20:25 GMT
Very interesting page. Pft!Annie being the more haughty of the two (or at least shows it more)definitely makes her comment believable. Though I am very confused by panel 3--I'm not sure what she is thinking here. Is she happy Forest!Annie was threatened? or amused that Paz indirectly threatened Pft!Annie? Or that Paz even went there?
What are others taking from this panel?
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Post by madjack on Feb 27, 2019 15:32:20 GMT
Very interesting page. Pft!Annie being the more haughty of the two (or at least shows it more)definitely makes her comment believable. Though I am very confused by panel 3--I'm not sure what she is thinking here. Is she happy Forest!Annie was threatened? or amused that Paz indirectly threatened Pft!Annie? Or that Paz even went there? What are others taking from this panel? The latter, probably. Others have linked all her moments of bravery and ferocity etc, but I don't think Annie was witness to any of them (except afterwards with Lindsay). So maybe she just didn't realise Paz had this side of her, and like flowsthead said, the forest respects strength. |
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Post by novia on Feb 27, 2019 16:33:33 GMT
Hmm... Paranoid wildspec time: This "bonding" is anything but, Court!Annie is going to subtly goad Forest!Annie into confronting Paz' threat from earlier, then undercut Forest!Annie's efforts by acting shocked and taking Paz' side to cement herself as the #1 Annie in Kat's eyes. Edit: Nah, that's Annie genuinely trying to be funny and instead being her weird self. I was more reminded of the dismissive self-centeredness she displayed in the page I linked. Another time Annie was being a bitch. Can we not? |
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Post by novia on Feb 27, 2019 16:49:51 GMT
Of course, of course, there are still many variables to predict the outcome of the Saturday Fight Night, but going by what we have seen... I feel safe saying that Annie could defeat the majority of the other characters if she really wanted to, and put a bit of planning to it.  ¿Que no soy una amenaza?  |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 27, 2019 17:23:33 GMT
 That Moment When you realize the person you can't stand actually has a valid point. |
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Post by Runningflame on Feb 27, 2019 18:17:10 GMT
Courtnie seems well on her way to become an evil overlord. Maybe Frannie too. |
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Post by tustin2121 on Feb 27, 2019 18:54:47 GMT
What an odd thing to bond over. "I think I could snap this person in half!" "Me too! Let's be friends!"
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 27, 2019 19:35:13 GMT
Honestly rather surprised that almost everyone seems to be reacting to panel 5 ("snap her like a twig"), when panel 3 was what really got my attention ("REALLY?!" *happy sparkles*). That's, like... completely genuine pride and joy, on a level with Annie's expression when Tony first let her help him around the house. It's definitely the happiest we've ever seen Court!Annie, and in response to such an ominous, unexpected threat...the "snap her like a twig" comment seems rather mundane in comparison. After all, it's pretty much just a statement of fact.
Oh, and side note: if this really is a simulation as people have speculated, and Kat is monitoring the whole thing, she's going to be TRULY horrified at just how the Antimonies have chosen to "work out their problems". |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Feb 27, 2019 20:44:32 GMT
Honestly rather surprised that almost everyone seems to be reacting to panel 5 ("snap her like a twig"), when panel 3 was what really got my attention ("REALLY?!" *happy sparkles*). That's, like... completely genuine pride and joy, on a level with Annie's expression when Tony first let her help him around the house. It's definitely the happiest we've ever seen Court!Annie, and in response to such an ominous, unexpected threat...the "snap her like a twig" comment seems rather mundane in comparison. After all, it's pretty much just a statement of fact.
Oh, and side note: if this really is a simulation as people have speculated, and Kat is monitoring the whole thing, she's going to be TRULY horrified at just how the Antimonies have chosen to "work out their problems". Yeah. TBH, to me it read in an almost Coyote like way. She seemed WAY too excited about that threat. |
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Post by zaferion on Feb 27, 2019 21:41:05 GMT
First: the over the shoulder angle in panels 2 and 5 make Courtney look positively gorgeous.
Second: Once again, I feel that it needs to be pointed out that Paz's strengths don't lie in combat: her powers lie in communication. Paz could very easily undermine both of the Annies without either of them ever realizing it was her. Specifically, Paz would only need to voice a few well-placed "concerns" to rip Kat away from Annie--and we've seen how poorly Annie handles emotional turmoil.
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Post by worldsong on Feb 27, 2019 22:17:44 GMT
Annie does not even need to possess a particular meanness to have such a thought. Be honest, how many of you here have never entertained a similar thought towards a person who acted nasty to you? i agree. anyway who says they've never thought something similar about anything is probably lying. Thirding this.
I'm somewhat surprised that people are taking Annie thinking to herself that she could easily beat down Paz if needed as a sign that Annie is actually being really mean and violent. Paz came (from Annie's perspective) out of nowhere with those threats and it's not like what Annie says translates into 'I'm definitely going to snap her' or 'I am planning to snap her'. It doesn't seem to go any further than 'If the situation ever were to arise I'm pretty damn sure I could snap her' which is not much more than threat assessment.
If performing a threat assessment and confirming that you're the stronger one is now a sign of being a bad person I think we're going a bit overboard with pacifism (that you can't even calculate the most likely outcome of a fight which you have essentially been threatened with by another party without any sign that you yourself are looking forward to or planning to make that fight occur..).
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Post by heranje on Feb 27, 2019 22:51:00 GMT
Honestly rather surprised that almost everyone seems to be reacting to panel 5 ("snap her like a twig"), when panel 3 was what really got my attention ("REALLY?!" *happy sparkles*). That's, like... completely genuine pride and joy, on a level with Annie's expression when Tony first let her help him around the house. It's definitely the happiest we've ever seen Court!Annie, and in response to such an ominous, unexpected threat...the "snap her like a twig" comment seems rather mundane in comparison. I was puzzled by that too, but then I thought it might not be supposed to be read as happy so much as... you know when someone tells you a really juicy/outrageous piece of gossip, and there's this reaction of grinning, wide-eyed "really!?" - Court!Annie may just have been surprised and kind of excited to hear about this unexpected side of Paz, who she didn't think "had it in her." At the same time she doesn't take the threat very seriously, because she believes Paz to be no match for her (and, not having experienced it first hand, she also doesn't know about the ominousness of the threat or what way it was delivered). So to her the threat might just seem pretty harmless, uncharacteristic of Paz, and therefore kind of funny - more like a "really, the chihuahua tried to maul you!?" (Not saying that Paz is a chihuahua, but that seems to be the way C!Annie sees her) Maybe it also comes with a side of glee because Paz threatened Forest!Annie, who she sees as her rival, but hasn't said anything to C!Annie. Also, re: C!Annie's general arrogance here - Annie has been known to get a little big for her britches when she feels important. (See: the page someone linked of her skipping class with a flippant, "what are they going to do?" attitude, and also the whole episode where she learned a lesson about walking around the forest "like she owned the place.") We've been shown that until F!Annie appeared, C!Annie was considered to have been responsible for stopping the attack on the Court, she's living with her father and has been building a better relationship with him, she's developed her fire powers in cool ways and is casually helping fight off Forest creatures - sounds like a perfect recipe for cocky, over-confident Annie to me. |
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Post by todd on Feb 28, 2019 0:04:37 GMT
We've been shown that until F!Annie appeared, C!Annie was considered to have been responsible for stopping the attack on the Court, Has that been explicitly stated? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 28, 2019 3:19:08 GMT
We've been shown that until F!Annie appeared, C!Annie was considered to have been responsible for stopping the attack on the Court, Has that been explicitly stated? It's been claimed by Courtnie and there's evidence to support it, though she can easily be called hyperbolic or just plain wrong. #2071 Panel 1: Courtnie says, "Ysengrin -or Loup, I suppose- didn't want to talk at all, but he said he'd stop his attack." Anthony said in the same panel that since then there had been no activity from the forest directly. #2072 panel 3: Courtnie says, "I stopped the attack on the Court and now that you're here (emphasis hers), things are happening again!" after being called a fake by Fannie. In #2073 Kat mentions that the Court has formed teams to investigate creature sightings inside the barrier, which tells us that the Court has made some organizational change to the ongoing crisis and I think how people react to the attack on the train (or not react, in Anthony's case) lets us infer something about post-Loup daily life in the Court and Courtnie's role in defending it. That said, I highly doubt that the Court has officially recognized Courtnie as its savior or even thanked her. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 28, 2019 4:08:30 GMT
Once again, I feel that it needs to be pointed out that Paz's strengths don't lie in combat: her powers lie in communication. Paz could very easily undermine both of the Annies without either of them ever realizing it was her. Specifically, Paz would only need to voice a few well-placed "concerns" to rip Kat away from Annie--and we've seen how poorly Annie handles emotional turmoil. I don't think so. If Antimony was just Kat's long-running main babe then Paz, as a lover, could do a lot to slowly poison the friendship and then peel Kat away from Antimony like you say... but Antimony isn't just a close friend, she's a project friend. Kat and Antimony first became friends when Antimony was wandering the Court alone after Surma's death and her father's disappearance. Depending on how you look at it, the comic has been a grand magical adventure... or one crisis after another focused mostly on Antimony. In a real sense Antimony is a project of Kat's that sometimes requires her to drop everything and do anything she can to help. At this point Kat's used to Antimony taking up a lot of her time when there's an emergency. Then the official state of emergency happened and Anthony and Antimony had a reconciliation. Paz and Kat presumably live either in Kat's house as a continuation of being roommates or near each other with lots of empty buildings around where they can get privacy. While Antimony and Anthony may come visit the focus is probably on helping with Kat's work, for which Kat is making quite a name for herself, so they probably mostly visit Kat's workshop. So Paz had a good boundary separating Antimony from Kat's private life and- WHOOPS THE DUMB REDHEADED [redacted] HAS GONE AND GOTTEN HERSELF DUPLICATED. Even if Paz isn't trying to come between Antimony(s) and Kat if Paz isn't very careful she may become an obstacle to Kat helping Antimony(s) during an emergency. And if that happens Paz may try to make Kat choose between helping Antimony(s) during said emergency or protecting Paz's feels, which would be a massive error on Paz's part. Also: It appears that we lost a day or more in the break between chapters 69 and 70. At the end of ch. 69 Courtnie left for Kat's house. Did she come back? Or did she stay over at Kat's? Is she staying there still? |
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Post by csj on Feb 28, 2019 5:25:36 GMT
Once again, I feel that it needs to be pointed out that Paz's strengths don't lie in combat: her powers lie in communication. Paz could very easily undermine both of the Annies without either of them ever realizing it was her. Specifically, Paz would only need to voice a few well-placed "concerns" to rip Kat away from Annie--and we've seen how poorly Annie handles emotional turmoil. Oh, beware, my lord, of jealousy! It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock The meat it feeds on. That cuckold lives in bliss Who, certain of his fate, loves not his wronger, But, oh, what damnèd minutes tells he o'er Who dotes, yet doubts— suspects, yet soundly loves! ((This is especially fun if not representative of her character because Iago is a Galician word)) |
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Post by rafk on Feb 28, 2019 11:12:53 GMT
What an odd thing to bond over. "I think I could snap this person in half!" "Me too! Let's be friends!" I think it's more that they're coming to accept they are the same person and understand each other. |
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Post by rafk on Feb 28, 2019 11:14:42 GMT
Honestly rather surprised that almost everyone seems to be reacting to panel 5 ("snap her like a twig"), when panel 3 was what really got my attention ("REALLY?!" *happy sparkles*). That's, like... completely genuine pride and joy, on a level with Annie's expression when Tony first let her help him around the house. It's definitely the happiest we've ever seen Court!Annie, and in response to such an ominous, unexpected threat...the "snap her like a twig" comment seems rather mundane in comparison. After all, it's pretty much just a statement of fact. Oh, and side note: if this really is a simulation as people have speculated, and Kat is monitoring the whole thing, she's going to be TRULY horrified at just how the Antimonies have chosen to "work out their problems". If Kat has taken the step of putting the Annies in a sim without their consent to spy on their internal dialogue, she should be horrified at herself. |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 28, 2019 12:11:32 GMT
Of course, of course, there are still many variables to predict the outcome of the Saturday Fight Night, but going by what we have seen... I feel safe saying that Annie could defeat the majority of the other characters if she really wanted to, and put a bit of planning to it. ¿Que no soy una amenaza? |
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Post by novia on Feb 28, 2019 16:59:32 GMT
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Post by netherdan on Feb 28, 2019 17:05:35 GMT
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Post by novia on Feb 28, 2019 17:37:39 GMT
Paz can't talk to spiders or insects according to the word of Tom. Which, to me, makes it a little weird that Paz could talk to Lindsey without a computer terminal, since Lindsey is clearly an arthropod like spiders, but, whatever~ maybe she just flailed her arms wildly. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 28, 2019 17:44:34 GMT
If Kat has taken the step of putting the Annies in a sim without their consent to spy on their internal dialogue, she should be horrified at herself.
Any way you look at it, Kat's plan seems pretty dodgy.
Lock the Annies up in a bunker (real or not doesn't matter) without warning and without giving them much in the way of instruction about what to do. Talk? Mope? Fight? Stay in the top room with a little line down the middle separating "my" side of the room from "your" side? Explore, wander, solve the maze? Did they check beforehand to make sure the bunker was not likely to fall apart and also free of monsters?
(And if the water creature is in on the plan, how and when were they supposed to encounter it?)
Add to that the possibility of monitoring them (for safety's sake or for laughs) and Kat seems more like the villain of this chapter.
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Post by bicarbonat on Feb 28, 2019 18:18:34 GMT
First person to make the obvious joke loses. I must make this sacrifice, for the good of everyone else. Ehem: Oh i very much doubt Paz has ever had it in her.  *tootles "My Heart Will Go On" on the recorder as the community punts your bier into an estuary* |
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Post by bicarbonat on Feb 28, 2019 18:19:59 GMT
Oh, and side note: if this really is a simulation as people have speculated, and Kat is monitoring the whole thing, she's going to be TRULY horrified at just how the Antimonies have chosen to "work out their problems". From your lips to Randy's ears. |
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Post by ohthatone on Feb 28, 2019 20:32:35 GMT
If Kat has taken the step of putting the Annies in a sim without their consent to spy on their internal dialogue, she should be horrified at herself.
Any way you look at it, Kat's plan seems pretty dodgy.
Lock the Annies up in a bunker (real or not doesn't matter) without warning and without giving them much in the way of instruction about what to do. Talk? Mope? Fight? Stay in the top room with a little line down the middle separating "my" side of the room from "your" side? Explore, wander, solve the maze? Did they check beforehand to make sure the bunker was not likely to fall apart and also free of monsters?
(And if the water creature is in on the plan, how and when were they supposed to encounter it?)
Add to that the possibility of monitoring them (for safety's sake or for laughs) and Kat seems more like the villain of this chapter.
Turns out this is more a catharsis trip for Kat. |
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