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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 16, 2019 21:34:28 GMT
Hmmm. So the MiniLoup degrades into plant material. This makes me wonder, what was that thing they were fighting on the train earlier? "Oops, I suppose the heavy-handed approach doesn't work so well." It was a Bound Dog.Ah, OK. That makes sense. Also thanks, seeing a laser cow chapter like that reminds me how goofy this strip can get. (Although that chapter also featured Jack, and we all know how that eventually turned out.) This page does seem to blow a hole in my theory that Kat's in the simulated bunker control room, creating "dangerous" situations for them to battle together. It's still possible that MiniLoup could have broken into a simulation and glitched it, but it seems less likely now... would Kat create a chasm for them to fall into? Then again, I mentally added "...in hell!" to MiniLoup's "see you soon" statement. Maybe Loup created the chasm, and this is a nice fun friendly threat from the mad god. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 16, 2019 22:05:12 GMT
The Antimonies really should have examined the door. I think they may have been able to open it. Back there, Annie's Ether-body could go through the open window above the door. As far as we know, she can not pass through solid material. Assuming that's the case, two things: 1. She probably doesn't need a direct route or even to know what the route is, like the first lesson Anja gave her shows. Back then she was using her blinker stone and had a big open garage door. The bunker must have an air circulation system and even if it's got a mode where it runs entirely on internally circulated air it almost certainly also can vent with external air. If they need a hole and can't make one near the door (even through cooperation) they should have enough access to the air circulating system enough to make one somewhere. 2. They've only got Parley's word that the bunker is sealed and bunkers aren't made to imprison people. It looks like four dogs or latches on the door; if those are the kind that can be operated manually then they can just be turned to unlatch or draw the door seal into the door (depending on what sort of door it is) to open the door UNLESS there is another lock on the exterior (which should be the case if Parley is telling the truth). That exterior lock would have to be destroyed. If the door can only be operated electrically there still should be a method of opening them manually (like a crank) and if the bunker is designed for civilian use there should be instructions somewhere near the door about how to do that. [There also should be an emergency phone somewhere, both for trapped people and for use when the bunker is being used in an actual emergency, but that may need power to operate and may not connect to the general Court lines.] But even if Parley told the truth and there's nothing at all they can do to escape I still think they should have checked the door. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 16, 2019 22:23:00 GMT
Or maybe that's Paz actually... Oh yeah, speaking of Paz... If Kat's monitoring what's going on she's going to freak. If (an hour from now in-comic) Parley comes back to the farmhouse without any Antimonies and says there's a hole in the bunker floor and evidence of a fight, Kat will freak. Whatever happens, if one or more Antimonies don't return to the farmhouse or otherwise contact Kat before Kat knows they're missing, Kat will freak. And then Paz will be pissed. |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 16, 2019 22:33:16 GMT
Back there, Annie's Ether-body could go through the open window above the door. As far as we know, she can not pass through solid material. Assuming that's the case, two things: 1. She probably doesn't need a direct route or even to know what the route is, like the first lesson Anja gave her shows. Back then she was using her blinker stone and had a big open garage door. The bunker must have an air circulation system and even if it's got a mode where it runs entirely on internally circulated air it almost certainly also can vent with external air. If they need a hole and can't make one near the door (even through cooperation) they should have enough access to the air circulating system enough to make one somewhere. 2. They've only got Parley's word that the bunker is sealed and bunkers aren't made to imprison people. It looks like four dogs or latches on the door; if those are the kind that can be operated manually then they can just be turned to unlatch or draw the door seal into the door (depending on what sort of door it is) to open the door UNLESS there is another lock on the exterior (which should be the case if Parley is telling the truth). That exterior lock would have to be destroyed. If the door can only be operated electrically there still should be a method of opening them manually (like a crank) and if the bunker is designed for civilian use there should be instructions somewhere near the door about how to do that. [There also should be an emergency phone somewhere, both for trapped people and for use when the bunker is being used in an actual emergency, but that may need power to operate and may not connect to the general Court lines.] But even if Parley told the truth and there's nothing at all they can do to escape I still think they should have checked the door. Fair enough. However, at some point they would probably just decide to wait until Parley comes back, since it would take at least the same amount of time to find a way to open the door - and they still have no idea what is outside or where the bunker is (except that it is somewhere within range for Parley to go there in just one jump). Especially they would take longer when not wanting to work together. |
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Post by keef on Feb 16, 2019 23:22:55 GMT
He expects both of them to return. The plot isn't getting any simpler, is it? I don't expect one of the Annies to die, but what if? Will the survivor get all the memories? Does it mean Loup failed his god exam, not foreseeing this? And yes, how will the posse react when only one Annie shows up? Especially if it is the "new" one? |
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Post by warrl on Feb 17, 2019 3:03:29 GMT
It looks like four dogs or latches on the door; if those are the kind that can be operated manually then they can just be turned to unlatch or draw the door seal into the door (depending on what sort of door it is) to open the door UNLESS there is another lock on the exterior (which should be the case if Parley is telling the truth). That exterior lock would have to be destroyed. Annie has previously ethereally gone through a door and unlocked it from the other side. And she knows how to pick locks. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 17, 2019 3:31:16 GMT
He expects both of them to return. The plot isn't getting any simpler, is it? I don't expect one of the Annies to die, but what if? Will the survivor get all the memories? Does it mean Loup failed his god exam, not foreseeing this? And yes, how will the posse react when only one Annie shows up? Especially if it is the "new" one? I guess it would be simpler if Courtnie was a disposable duplicate. From what "Loup" says in today's comic it does sound like he expects both Antimonies to come to the Wood (with the gifts and Renard). It looks like four dogs or latches on the door; if those are the kind that can be operated manually then they can just be turned to unlatch or draw the door seal into the door (depending on what sort of door it is) to open the door UNLESS there is another lock on the exterior (which should be the case if Parley is telling the truth). That exterior lock would have to be destroyed. Annie has previously ethereally gone through a door and unlocked it from the other side. And she knows how to pick locks. If you mean the time I linked to earlier on this thread, pyradonis ' point was that she actually went through the trellis window above the door. I was posting about possible workarounds and problems (most notably, the seal on the outside door which should be an external-to-the-door lock or a chain welded shut, or something very difficult to open). Also, I think Renard has her lockpicks. |
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Post by mordekai on Feb 17, 2019 20:28:49 GMT
Or maybe that's Paz actually... Oh yeah, speaking of Paz... If Kat's monitoring what's going on she's going to freak. If (an hour from now in-comic) Parley comes back to the farmhouse without any Antimonies and says there's a hole in the bunker floor and evidence of a fight, Kat will freak. Whatever happens, if one or more Antimonies don't return to the farmhouse or otherwise contact Kat before Kat knows they're missing, Kat will freak. And then Paz will be pissed. Well, if Paz is pissed, then screw Paz!
None of the Annies is at fault here. They didn't ask Kat to lock them in an underground bunker in an area under attack by god-controlled magical tree roots...
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 17, 2019 22:54:55 GMT
I'm still wondering how Kat or any of the classmates knew about the underground sealed-off bunker in the first place. I mean, assuming it's not an X-Men-style Danger Room, it seems like the sort of thing that the Court would have sealed off and kept off-limits to students because the floor is unstable and could give way?
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Post by todd on Feb 17, 2019 23:38:18 GMT
]None of the Annies is at fault here. They didn't ask Kat to lock them in an underground bunker in an area under attack by god-controlled magical tree roots... On the other hand, their petty squabbling was what led Kat to do just that.... |
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Post by mordekai on Feb 18, 2019 13:58:54 GMT
]None of the Annies is at fault here. They didn't ask Kat to lock them in an underground bunker in an area under attack by god-controlled magical tree roots... On the other hand, their petty squabbling was what led Kat to do just that.... What petty squabbling? They have barely interacted until now, and truth to be told, they have been quite civil...
What about letting them some time to come to terms with the situation, rather than kidnapping them and locking them in a dungeon?
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 19, 2019 12:19:59 GMT
On the other hand, their petty squabbling was what led Kat to do just that.... What petty squabbling? They have barely interacted until now, and truth to be told, they have been quite civil...
What about letting them some time to come to terms with the situation, rather than kidnapping them and locking them in a dungeon?
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