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Post by netherdan on Feb 11, 2019 23:04:24 GMT
This better not turn out to be a deus ex flore (or deus ex semine) where two Annies "merge" back into one by pure fiat on Loup's part. Fiat Loup! Then it plays tinny music for six hours while you wait. Oh no, he won't play it, he will sing it! |
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Post by todd on Feb 12, 2019 0:12:57 GMT
Sure, it's going to be "HAAHAH isn't it hilarious??? I'm so great!!!" It does seem in character for Loup. On the other hand, given "Gunnerkrigg Court"'s fondness for disquisitions on the nature of the etheric world spread out over several pages, I suspect we might be in for something much longer.... |
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Post by madjack on Feb 12, 2019 0:20:00 GMT
Well this puts paid to some of the discussion in the other thread: The bunker complex IS inside the Court. Well, yes. IF he is honest about it. I can't really see Loup lying about this, in fact I think he'd mention how hard they were to find since they'd left the Court or something. So he's not actually there, so can't actively do anything to ruin their day. Does not follow. He can send pre-programmed things. With unknown limitations on capabilities, and even more clumsy than what he would do with real-time control. I was trying to imply he's not going to actively throw any spanners into the works by physically messing with them in situ. So he must have either already messed with it, or it's exposition time. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Feb 12, 2019 1:16:30 GMT
I would like to hope Loup can't record magic, so with that assumption, I'd say they aren't about to be re-merged. Also, fixing that "problem" doesn't benefit Loup just this minute.
My guess is Loup's gonna proudly state that them being doubled is his solution to a problem he'd already so cleverly anticipated, namely that Annie will likely be prevented from acquiring the Coyote Items by the Court authorities (which hasn't happened yet, so he's a bit early). And so! Eternally helpful in every way: his highly recommended plan will be that (given that they must be separated from observation to trigger the recording) one Annie can rejoin the group pretending she's merged back together, while the other Annie remains in hiding - now free from prying eyes and Court drones - to go sneak the stuff! (I guess maybe using the root network?) It's so perfect and well thought out, never mind all the problems he didn't consider and that one Annie would be putting herself through a life-threatening ordeal for no benefit to herself or her friends! What matters is that Loup gets his things back quickly this way, PLUS one of the Annies can kick back and relax the whole time so it's like she's perfectly safe, even while her literal other half risks life and limb to help a psychotic handsome trickster god become unstoppably powerful!
And I'm sure they'll both agree to this without any objections, which is why he was so confident in the plan he recorded it.
Okay that's probably too specific to be accurate, but I'm curious if Annie has grown enough yet to not screw herself over for short term gains. The Annie who copied Kat and who torpedoed her chances with spider boy would definitely consider trapping half of herself in a bad deal just for the opportunity to enjoy fun times with friends and reconnect with dad. I would like to hope these Annies have begun to move past that but I'm not so sure...
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Post by warrl on Feb 12, 2019 1:25:03 GMT
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Post by jda on Feb 12, 2019 3:28:41 GMT
"Haha, just to let you know that I created either of you by halving the fire, and your life expectancy, but, oh, there is no trouble, the moment one of you stops living, the other will receive the remaining years! Simple, right?"
Highlander Court...
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 12, 2019 5:03:56 GMT
Welcome to the forum! This better not turn out to be a deus ex flore (or deus ex semine) where two Annies "merge" back into one by pure fiat on Loup's part. I think I would be okay with that as long as we get some decent mileage out of the two Annies situation beforehand, and also that there are unexpected complications from the forcible reunion. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 12, 2019 17:24:36 GMT
I am reminded of this Order of the Stick page, except Loup's said too many words already. And he's at least twice as clever/ crazy/ insane/ magical as Nale. Maybe the spell still has a word limit, but he'll reach it at a critical moment. |
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Post by tustin2121 on Feb 12, 2019 17:31:41 GMT
"Haha, just to let you know that I created either of you by halving the fire, and your life expectancy, but, oh, there is no trouble, the moment one of you stops living, the other will receive the remaining years! Simple, right?" Highlander Court... "THE QUICKENING!!!!!" *explosions around her* |
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Post by Corvo on Feb 12, 2019 20:10:45 GMT
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 13, 2019 0:02:32 GMT
I'm not sure why this hadn't occured to me before, but what if both are fake, and Loup is keeping the original in the forest?
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Post by todd on Feb 13, 2019 0:11:43 GMT
I'm not sure why this hadn't occured to me before, but what if both are fake, and Loup is keeping the original in the forest? That would require a lot of explaining away the events in the past couple of chapters. I don't think Tom would be able to pull that off. |
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Post by Runningflame on Feb 13, 2019 0:22:36 GMT
Looking at the wording again, I figured out why it sounds like Loup might be lying about this being a "recording." The first thing he says is, "It looks like I finally found you." That makes it sound like Tiny Loup has been trying to find them, is aware that he's failed several times, and is aware that he has now succeeded. I.e. the "image" can at least perceive that Annie and Annie are there. If I were prerecording a message that would play once the Annies were present, I would have worded it differently--maybe something like, "Well then! Here we all are!"
Of course, what I would do in a situation is probably completely unhelpful when imagining what Loup would do in that situation.
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Post by DonDueed on Feb 13, 2019 1:49:27 GMT
Looking at the wording again, I figured out why it sounds like Loup might be lying about this being a "recording." The first thing he says is, "It looks like I finally found you." That makes it sound like Tiny Loup been trying to find them, is aware that he's failed several times, and is aware that he has now succeeded. I.e. the "image" can at least perceive that Annie and Annie are there. If I were prerecording a message that would play once the Annies were present, I would have worded it differently--maybe something like, "Well then! Here we all are!" Of course, what I would do in a situation is probably completely unhelpful when imagining what Loup would do in that situation. Hmm, good points. I suppose the message could have been recorded several times, once for each attempt to send it to the Annies (with previous attempts failing). The "looks like" phrase could have been a bit of frustration and peevishness on Loup's part as he sent in yet another message-plant, still unsure if it would reach them.
That scenario doesn't say much for Loup's powers, at least within the Court's domain.
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Post by Corvo on Feb 13, 2019 2:13:02 GMT
I don't get why so many people think it's a recording. To me it sounds more like one-sided video-call (if there is such a thing).
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Post by DonDueed on Feb 13, 2019 3:00:23 GMT
I don't get why so many people think it's a recording. To me it sounds more like one-sided video-call (if there is such a thing). Very possibly. The effect is much the same, though; the only difference would be a time lag of however long it took for the plant to make its way into the court. If mini-Loup is being truthful and the conversation is entirely one-sided, that is.
One possible difference, though, would be if Loup somehow got feedback from the plant that it had found the Annies. That could explain the "seems like" phrase. But still I'd say there's not much difference unless the time lag of a prerecorded message comes into play somehow.
Edit: hope you folks all like my new avatar... made it meself. I can put it in the avatar thread if anybody wants a copy.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 13, 2019 6:50:28 GMT
I'm not sure why this hadn't occured to me before, but what if both are fake, and Loup is keeping the original in the forest? I won't say it's impossible but even if Fannie is a fake made late in ch. 62 (because if she's fake through those conversations with "Loup" then the whole chapter makes no sense) "Loup" is still calling her "my love" at the very end of her visit. I don't get why so many people think it's a recording. To me it sounds more like one-sided video-call (if there is such a thing). Since it was a seed it's possible that microLoup is alive or at least a psudo-lifeform that has a limited degree of autonomy. That way it can burrow through whatever needed to deliver its message without "Loup" breaking his promise about attacking. What happens to it after the message is delivered may give us a clue about what it is. If it needs to report back then it's not a transmission. |
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