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Post by avurai on Feb 3, 2019 8:19:19 GMT
"Hm...on the one hand, given her past behavior I can't imagine the fire part of Annie warming up (heh) to Tony." Tony was obsessed with saving his wife then bringing his wife back from the dead, and as a result unintentionally/was tricked into putting Annie at risk, not seeing how that makes fiery part of Annie against him. Annie herself put her friends at risk by accident according to Jones. Or Tony being cold to Annie when being warm to her would have put her more at risk of being a pawn in Courts secret projects, and Tony was feeling extreme guilt over almost accidentally causing her death "broken man". I think you have extreme double standard, Annie multiple times has put others at risk unintentionally and all is forgiven so easily. Fire elemental can be less hypocritical than you. One example, Annie tried to help Robot in similar way as Tony tried to help Surma come back from dead. That could have ended with Annie and Renard being killed or imprisoned for long time when breaking out Robot's brain from the robot run prison, or Robot could have been evil entity that was imprisoned for good reason and went on mass killing spree. Plot worked for Annie, against Tony, when they both tried to save someone who had "died"/been turned into paperclips. (Chapter 12, Mainly involving Robots) Given a different plot, Annie temper, making fire barrier and running into forest may have started a war between forest and court and resulted in many deaths (Chapter 31, fire spike). Annie has been colder to poor Boxbot than Tony has ever been to Annie. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=203 "At least they were proper robots" then later "terrible"... everyone hates him, poor Boxbot, so few friends, so little love when all he does is try to help. You fairly blatantly ignored the factual thing they said in order to defend Tony, when that wasn’t even the topic of discussion. They were referencing the fact that when Annie’s fire was separated from her, haircut!Annie was very forgiving towards Tony whereas the fire-Annie was resentful. ‘Youwiththeface’ was pointing out the discrepancies of the theory that fire-Annie would be supportive of Anthony rather than the opposite. You’re quick to jump on a person and call them a hypocrite when you place into their words something that isn’t actually there. |
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Post by maxptc on Feb 3, 2019 19:40:48 GMT
I'm pretty confident CAnnie being difficult to deal with is due to her time in a lockdown style situation/living with Tony/everything else is that's happened since she left the forest. CAnnie is just what FAnnie would have "turned into" had she experienced the same situation. Maybe I'm just being mislead, but it looks like both Annie's are real. Everyone at court is convinced it's CAnnie is the "real one" and we know FAnnie is real. We could be gettung thrown a curveball but I just don't think it's the case.
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Post by mordekai on Feb 3, 2019 22:35:29 GMT
Of course Kat would not put her in danger... on purpose. Uh... Kat is kinda doing it right now... as far as she knows, she has trapped the real Annie with a Loup-wrought doppelganger... Even if they are observing them and Parley is ready to blip there if something back happens, would she be faster enough to save Annie from a sudden fireball or a magic laser? |
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Post by todd on Feb 3, 2019 23:59:28 GMT
Of course Kat would not put her in danger... on purpose. Uh... Kat is kinda doing it right now... as far as she knows, she has trapped the real Annie with a Loup-wrought doppelganger... Even if they are observing them and Parley is ready to blip there if something back happens, would she be faster enough to save Annie from a sudden fireball or a magic laser? Was Kat present when both Annies gave Reynardine orders and he obeyed both? That scene definitely established that neither could be a mere creation of Loup. (And even if Kat wasn't present - I'll have to look that up - Reynardine was present in Kat's house, and would have been able to share that information with the others.) |
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Post by merry76 on Feb 4, 2019 8:57:20 GMT
Was Kat present when both Annies gave Reynardine orders and he obeyed both? That scene definitely established that neither could be a mere creation of Loup. (And even if Kat wasn't present - I'll have to look that up - Reynardine was present in Kat's house, and would have been able to share that information with the others.) I am not sure being a creation of a being with god like powers - even if its just a copy - does render you any less real than being the real thing.
Its basically a variation of "could god create a boulder so heavy he cant lift it": "could Loup create a copy so real it isnt a copy anymore"?
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 4, 2019 17:07:52 GMT
Of course Kat would not put her in danger... on purpose. Uh... Kat is kinda doing it right now... as far as she knows, she has trapped the real Annie with a Loup-wrought doppelganger... Even if they are observing them and Parley is ready to blip there if something back happens, would she be faster enough to save Annie from a sudden fireball or a magic laser? For all we know, the bunker could be lined with anti-ether technology and suppress their abilities. Fact is, we do not know whether Kat thinks one of them is not real (especially after talking to Renard earlier, who is of the opinion both are real). Also, if their safety measures may not be sufficient, that does not mean Kat does not think they are. |
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