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Post by madjack on Jun 6, 2018 17:58:58 GMT
I almost laughed when Tony and Jones had the exact same reaction at the exact same time. I did not expect them to be so similar! This page, plus Tom's caption ("Tony and Jones are a real party when you get them together") makes me wonder if these two have worked together before... They have, probably extensively. Panel 1. |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Jun 6, 2018 18:47:24 GMT
Team Stoic stands as an unmovable wall against all onslaught. They're as steady as stone. |
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Post by Runningflame on Jun 6, 2018 19:29:50 GMT
I'm not sure what I was expecting to see on this page, but I'm very very pleased. Just panel 1 by itself is wonderful. Carver and Jones playing detective in panel 3 is almost too much!
#jonesfanInterestingly, Genius Tom impressively nailed the body language again. Annie's "down and to the right" glance literally means she's consulting her own inner feelings and reviewing what she knows as if she's asking and answering the question within herself, which is exactly what the dialogue implies. If you're familiar with NLP eye movements you'll know what I mean. Technically, Annie is looking to her left. Dunno if that makes a difference. I appreciate Jones and Tony being respectful of Annie's decisions, but goshdarnit, I would be A LOT more curious about a dead woman's ghost being immorally used as a deterrent against forest creatures attacking the Court..! Even if only as gossip. Yes, you would... but remember, this is Gunnerkrigg Court, where a ghost jumps out at a girl and her reaction is, " Can I help you?" People who are used to this place are really chill about weird supernatural stuff. Especially people like Jones and Carver who are (outwardly, at least) really chill about everything. Jones is WAY shorter than Tony. I'm shocked. I guess I assumed Tony was so much taller than Annie/Kat because he's an adult and they're kids, but it's actually either that Jones is tiny or Tony is a retired basketball player.  (Yeah, I was surprised by that too, but it's consistent with how she's been drawn before.) |
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 6, 2018 20:28:14 GMT
I almost laughed when Tony and Jones had the exact same reaction at the exact same time. I did not expect them to be so similar! This page, plus Tom's caption ("Tony and Jones are a real party when you get them together") makes me wonder if these two have worked together before... They have, probably extensively. Panel 1.Is Tony one of the Shadow Men? I get the feeling he's only done more of a consulting role. |
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Post by blazingstar on Jun 6, 2018 20:54:06 GMT
This page, plus Tom's caption ("Tony and Jones are a real party when you get them together") makes me wonder if these two have worked together before... They have, probably extensively. Panel 1.Not sure if an uncolored profile of a woman's simple hairstyle and a suit jacket counts as enough evidence. But if Jones (Tony is FAR more likely) is later confirmed to be one of The Shadow Men, then cookies are surely in your future! |
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Post by blazingstar on Jun 6, 2018 21:25:21 GMT
Also, Jones is WAY shorter than Tony. I'm shocked. I guess I assumed Tony was so much taller than Annie/Kat because he's an adult and they're kids, but it's actually either that Jones is tiny or Tony is a retired basketball player. It's both, I think! Tony is tall, AND Jones is short. As Runningflame pointed out, Jones is not much taller than the children, who probably haven't hit full height. And Tony doesn't stand next to people a lot, but when he does, he's pretty tall. Edit: of everyone, though, James, in fact, may be the retired basketball player. |
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Post by madjack on Jun 6, 2018 21:40:07 GMT
Is Tony one of the Shadow Men? I get the feeling he's only done more of a consulting role. Not sure if an uncolored profile of a woman's simple hairstyle and a suit jacket counts as enough evidence. But if Jones (Tony is FAR more likely) is later confirmed to be one of The Shadow Men, then cookies are surely in your future! There's also the fact that she was with them in chapter 27/28 with the business with Jack at the ether station. |
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Post by todd on Jun 7, 2018 0:14:44 GMT
Jeanne was freed "several months ago", but Coyote only set the events in motion a short time before (presumably days). Which raises a new question: why did he wait so long?
Obviously Tom wanted to have a lull period for quieter chapters in between, but what was Coyote's in-story reason for waiting a while?
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Post by arf on Jun 7, 2018 3:12:19 GMT
Between their reactions on this page and how Jones reacted when the subject of Jeanne was first brought up by Annie I get the distinct impression that no matter the justification, Jones wants to keep Jeanne as hidden information. Interesting speculation, but we have no indication that Jones was aware of Jeanne. How could she when she appears to have been unaware of the Court until the outbreak of WWII, and only went there later ("This place is not so easy to find.") Of course, she *could* have discovered Jeanne for herself if she decided to go for a stroll in the Annan Waters one evening (a totally Jones thing to do). Irresistible force meets immovable object... |
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Post by speedwell on Jun 7, 2018 3:16:16 GMT
Interestingly, Genius Tom impressively nailed the body language again. Annie's "down and to the right" glance literally means she's consulting her own inner feelings and reviewing what she knows as if she's asking and answering the question within herself, which is exactly what the dialogue implies. If you're familiar with NLP eye movements you'll know what I mean. Technically, Annie is looking to her left. Dunno if that makes a difference. Only to my dyslexia. No, she's looking in the "correct" direction according to my NLP chart. |
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Post by arf on Jun 7, 2018 3:18:37 GMT
Jeanne was freed "several months ago", but Coyote only set the events in motion a short time before (presumably days). Which raises a new question: why did he wait so long? Obviously Tom wanted to have a lull period for quieter chapters in between, but what was Coyote's in-story reason for waiting a while? From what we saw of him at the start of "Memories of the Worthless", Coyote appeared (unusually) to be taking the time to gauge the right moment. Unsurprisingly, his gauging skills appear to have been a little off. |
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 7, 2018 14:04:57 GMT
oh I forgot all about that! That must be what James meant by "in deeper than most"
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 7, 2018 14:06:39 GMT
Between their reactions on this page and how Jones reacted when the subject of Jeanne was first brought up by Annie I get the distinct impression that no matter the justification, Jones wants to keep Jeanne as hidden information. Interesting speculation, but we have no indication that Jones was aware of Jeanne. How could she when she appears to have been unaware of the Court until the outbreak of WWII, and only went there later ("This place is not so easy to find.") Of course, she *could* have discovered Jeanne for herself if she decided to go for a stroll in the Annan Waters one evening (a totally Jones thing to do). Irresistible force meets immovable object... That's a side story I'd love to see. it would probably only be a couple pages, but still...
(also, how do I do multiple quotes in a post?)
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Post by electricguitarsolo on Jun 7, 2018 15:17:02 GMT
Is Tony one of the Shadow Men? I get the feeling he's only done more of a consulting role. A much earlier confirmation is in panel 1 of this page.
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Post by blazingstar on Jun 7, 2018 16:21:49 GMT
(also, how do I do multiple quotes in a post?) I've just been duplicating the tab, copying the code, and pasting it back into the first tab. If anyone has a better way, I'm all ears. |
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Post by Per on Jun 7, 2018 16:55:42 GMT
There's a dropdown at the top right of each post where you can click "Select Post". Then when you click to quote something else, previously selected posts are inserted above.
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 7, 2018 17:56:50 GMT
Is Tony one of the Shadow Men? I get the feeling he's only done more of a consulting role. A much earlier confirmation is in panel 1 of this page.
Good catch! There's a dropdown at the top right of each post where you can click "Select Post". Then when you click to quote something else, previously selected posts are inserted above. AH! Beauty, eh? many thanks  |
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Post by fia on Jun 7, 2018 23:16:09 GMT
There's a dropdown at the top right of each post where you can click "Select Post". Then when you click to quote something else, previously selected posts are inserted above. amaaaazzziiiiing Thank you! |
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Post by Gotolei on Jun 8, 2018 6:27:50 GMT
You can also click on posts while holding the alt key, a shortcut that basically isn't documented anywhere unless you go out of your way to dig into the documentation! isn't proboards fun--- I wonder if the "keep this information between ourselves" is just a temporary thing, a subject to revisit once the heat dies down? Anthony hasn't been around for the times in the past when Annie's mentioned it, but Jones is probably smart enough to put the puzzle together with what pieces she has and consider how serious it might be, at least. She didn't exactly pull any punches after the power station excursion, though admittedly that did bring out the whole cavalry. (and then there's the whole topic of the shoddy alarm systems on the dorms and whatnot, maybe it's a mindset much of the court has)
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Post by madjack on Jun 8, 2018 6:32:28 GMT
You can also click on posts while holding the alt key, a shortcut that basically isn't documented anywhere unless you go out of your way to dig into the documentation! isn't proboards funWow so this works.... But there also doesn't seem to be any visual indication that a post is 'selected', so hope you remember which ones you picked out. Wonderful. Edit: Also the "Jones being all about not getting caught" idea has merit, isn't that basically what she's been doing since the birth of civilization? |
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Post by Gotolei on Jun 8, 2018 6:36:52 GMT
You can also click on posts while holding the alt key, a shortcut that basically isn't documented anywhere unless you go out of your way to dig into the documentation! isn't proboards funWow so this works.... But there also doesn't seem to be any visual indication that a post is 'selected', so hope you remember which ones you picked out. Wonderful. It very slightly brightens up the cog button up in the top-right corner. Same as when the post is selected from the menu, but in this case it's even more blink-and-you-miss-it. Fair enough, though I was more under the impression that she was preventing herself from intervening outside of the ordinary. It was pretty clear she had a teacher-like position of authority there, and the other staff would probably be expecting something to come of it.
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Post by youwiththeface on Jun 8, 2018 7:56:32 GMT
The exact thing that Jones says is: "That seems to imply the two events might be related, but not a direct cause." Emphasis mine. I don't want to be nitpicky, but that's pretty indefinitive. Yes. So? How does it change anything I said? "They think freeing Jeanne played a role," is definitive. Jones herself does not sound at all sure of what happened via her dialogue. |
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Post by aline on Jun 8, 2018 8:18:25 GMT
Yes. So? How does it change anything I said? "They think freeing Jeanne played a role," is definitive. Jones herself does not sound at all sure of what happened via her dialogue. ... and I never said she was sure, I just reworded the hypothesis she made in comic. If she thought "There is no relationship between those two events" was the most likely hypothesis, she would have said so. She believes "Those two events are related" is the most likely hypothesis at that point. Obviously she is not sure, how could she possibly be? Based on the information she has (a lot less than we, the readers, have), all she can do is guess. I still don't know where you're going with this? |
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Post by warrl on Jun 8, 2018 16:59:28 GMT
If she thought "There is no relationship between those two events" was the most likely hypothesis, she would have said so. Not necessarily. If she thinks it's 51% likely to be correct... that would hardly justify saying there's no relationship. She never says that either. She says " That seems to imply the two events might be related, but not a direct cause." If she would definitely say "there is no relationship" if that was her belief, why wouldn't she say "these two events are related" if that's her belief? A better supposition: she thinks there might, or might not, be a connection, but is pretty sure that Annie's action is not a direct cause. And what does it take for them to "be related"? It could go all the way back to whatever made Ysengrin angry at the Court in the first place. That anger is clearly related to this attack. That anger also inspired earlier attacks, which were part of inducing Coyote to dig the Annwyn Gap, and also inducing the Court to put Jeanne down there. If Ysengrin hadn't gotten pissed off at the Court (for whatever good or poor justification he might have had) centuries ago, Annie wouldn't have freed Jeanne (Jeanne wouldn't have been trapped in the gap to be freed, and for that matter the gap wouldn't have been there to free her from) and Ysengrin wouldn't have attacked the court. So yes, the two recent events ARE related, in that they have a common root partial-cause. |
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