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Post by Timberwere on May 28, 2018 7:06:33 GMT
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Post by keef on May 28, 2018 7:08:30 GMT
Tony is going with her?
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Post by Angry Individual on May 28, 2018 7:10:55 GMT
Tony but he has a gun.
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Post by Timberwere on May 28, 2018 7:12:13 GMT
Actually, remembering Outdoor Tony, he may be very much in his element over there.
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Post by madjack on May 28, 2018 7:14:24 GMT
Awkward conversation with Eggers coming right up. Let's hope Jones is also around. Edit: Actually, remembering Outdoor Tony, he may be very much in his element over there. Nah, watching insects is one thing, but when he messed with the supernatural in the wilderness last time he came off pretty badly. He'll go to the professionals for this one, it's his daughter's safety on the line after all.
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Post by philman on May 28, 2018 7:34:25 GMT
Elsewhere... Growing so fast has given that tree gas.
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Post by bicarbonat on May 28, 2018 7:34:36 GMT
I'm still willing to believe the signal's been sent up by Coyote, back in black, blue and red. When they arrive he'll have a bound, gagged and bloody Ysengrin at his paws, explaining this was all a mistake, and that Y will be taken care of, with a big fat grin. BTW, small speculation: could Rey technically take control of Coyote, using his 'anything with eyes' body-takeover powers he got from Coyote himself? I hope we don't get the reverse of that speculation. A little "oh, look, Annie, chastise the bad, bad Ysengrin, that homicidal old fool you loved! I'll just....qui...et...ly...wear your protector like a glove. Heh." If the "support" is Renard, I'm going into panic mode.
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Post by keef on May 28, 2018 7:40:34 GMT
In diplomatic dealings with an unreliable opponent, it's probably not a good idea to take a loved one, a potential hostage, with you. The fact that in theory she is his diplomat, doesn't change that.
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Post by pyradonis on May 28, 2018 11:34:29 GMT
Now I'm REALLY curious who he will suggest as support.
Also, is someone trying to burn that tree down? o.O
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Post by faiiry on May 28, 2018 11:44:09 GMT
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Post by torontoregonian on May 28, 2018 11:57:12 GMT
Now I'm REALLY curious who he will suggest as support. Also, is someone trying to burn that tree down? o.O Those laser cows are pissed off.
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Post by todd on May 28, 2018 12:40:17 GMT
Well done, Antony. Negotiating with Ysengrin may be the Court's best hope - particularly if, instead of just settling for trying to calm him down, Annie and whoever goes with her address the roots of the quarrel between the Court and the Wood and find a solution for those.
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Post by Trillium on May 28, 2018 13:54:47 GMT
Awkward conversation with Eggers coming right up. Let's hope Jones is also around. Edit: Actually, remembering Outdoor Tony, he may be very much in his element over there. Nah, watching insects is one thing, but when he messed with the supernatural in the wilderness last time he came off pretty badly. He'll go to the professionals for this one, it's his daughter's safety on the line after all. There are a number of individuals who would be good backups. A lot depends on who the Court will spare or who will walk off the job to join Annie. Jones makes up her own mind on these things, who is going to stop her.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 28, 2018 13:56:48 GMT
Carver Dad is best dad! Wait, what am I saying? Is this Opposite Day?
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Post by atteSmythe on May 28, 2018 16:37:51 GMT
Carver Dad is best dad! Wait, what am I saying? Is this Opposite Day? He’s hoping they’ll keep her this time.
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Post by aline on May 28, 2018 17:52:06 GMT
Awkward conversation with Eggers coming right up. Let's hope Jones is also around. Edit: Nah, watching insects is one thing, but when he messed with the supernatural in the wilderness last time he came off pretty badly. He'll go to the professionals for this one, it's his daughter's safety on the line after all. There are a number of individuals who would be good backups. A lot depends on who the Court will spare or who will walk off the job to join Annie. Jones makes up her own mind on these things, who is going to stop her. I think Eglamore is the better choice. He is trained for the job. Jones is very strong indeed, and nobody could stop her from going wherever it is she wants to go, but she's not very good at protecting people who aren't her. Mort is evidence of that.
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Post by fia on May 28, 2018 18:12:00 GMT
Tony has many flaws, but one of his genuinely positive traits is his not belittling the (at least physical) capacities of fire-head girls and women. The reason he took Rey and didn't let Annie go to forest was partially because (a) he didn't understand her role or relationship with them; but also (b) because he did not trust Coyote to care for her safety or Rey not to want to kill her. I don't think it was ever about her not being allowed to be independently minded or whatnot, which I think was one of the readings available when the chapter first happened. I suppose now that Annie has had this medium job for a while as he has been around, and has gone into the forest many times on her own, and not been killed by Rey, he may have begun to see how important Annie is to the forest folk and that she can handle herself even in dangerous situations. But not so much that he wouldn't suggest backup. I hope he will at least apologize to her directly for being a jerk and an absentee father before the comic is over. He probably feels unforgivable but knowing Annie she might forgive him if he gave her a chance, and then maybe he wouldn't be such a shut-in around her.
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Post by aline on May 28, 2018 18:53:58 GMT
I hope he will at least apologize to her directly for being a jerk and an absentee father before the comic is over. He probably feels unforgivable but knowing Annie she might forgive him if he gave her a chance, and then maybe he wouldn't be such a shut-in around her. Beyond an apology, he needs to really see her, as a person, not just "smallish copy of dead Surma". Only then can there be any sort of emotional sincerity between him and Annie. I think that he trusts her to do her job in the Forest is a good sign that he's making some progress, but there's still a long way to go. This could be the big crisis that forces him to work with his daughter and actually find out who she is.
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Post by fia on May 28, 2018 22:29:24 GMT
I hope he will at least apologize to her directly for being a jerk and an absentee father before the comic is over. He probably feels unforgivable but knowing Annie she might forgive him if he gave her a chance, and then maybe he wouldn't be such a shut-in around her. Beyond an apology, he needs to really see her, as a person, not just "smallish copy of dead Surma". Only then can there be any sort of emotional sincerity between him and Annie. I think that he trusts her to do her job in the Forest is a good sign that he's making some progress, but there's still a long way to go. This could be the big crisis that forces him to work with his daughter and actually find out who she is. Yes, I agree. I am also hopeful for some sort of emotional progress, but I don't know whether Tom intends to give it. At least there's some minor precedent in that other characters with checkered pasts (Ysengrin, Reynardine, Jack, Winsbury) have each reconciled with Annie. I guess Eggers is the one person and the psychopomps still get on her nerves? That may not change. So I do hope Tony and Annie get to heal at least a little.
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Post by saardvark on May 28, 2018 22:45:37 GMT
Meanwhile... since Coysengrin melted into the Gillitie trees, he could probably travel thru their roots across the Annan gorge, and maybe connect with the roots of the mega-trees. Is that yellow smoke heralding his emergence Court-side? Maybe Annie won't have to travel far to chat with him.... could be a nice way to sneak around the barrier, good for a "heh" or two....
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Post by crater on May 28, 2018 23:49:29 GMT
The only support a fire mage needs is a really really big fan.
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Post by todd on May 29, 2018 0:10:09 GMT
Meanwhile... since Coysengrin melted into the Gillitie trees, he could probably travel thru their roots across the Annan gorge, and maybe connect with the roots of the mega-trees. Is that yellow smoke heralding his emergence Court-side? Maybe Annie won't have to travel far to chat with him.... could be a nice way to sneak around the barrier, good for a "heh" or two.... I'm having an image of some Court technician saying in an alarmed voice, as they pick up Ysengrin's subterranean movements "And the forcefield stops at ground level".
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Post by madjack on May 29, 2018 4:50:09 GMT
Awkward conversation with Eggers coming right up. Let's hope Jones is also around. Edit: Nah, watching insects is one thing, but when he messed with the supernatural in the wilderness last time he came off pretty badly. He'll go to the professionals for this one, it's his daughter's safety on the line after all. There are a number of individuals who would be good backups. A lot depends on who the Court will spare or who will walk off the job to join Annie. Jones makes up her own mind on these things, who is going to stop her. I meant in a sense that Jones would be around to defuse any confrontation between the two. She has accompanied Annie and Co. into the forest before, and might be a better choice than Eglamore because she's technically a neutral party, as well as being indestructible.
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Post by pyradonis on May 29, 2018 10:51:28 GMT
The only support a fire mage needs is a really really big fan. Last time, she had a tank (which she could buff), but he's currently sort of AFK.
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Post by todd on May 29, 2018 13:50:52 GMT
Last time, she had a tank (which she could buff), but he's currently sort of AFK. What incident was this?
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Post by fia on May 29, 2018 15:15:30 GMT
Last time, she had a tank (which she could buff), but he's currently sort of AFK. What incident was this? I think it's intended as a joke about Ysengrin.
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Post by archmagarche on May 29, 2018 17:11:52 GMT
"But not without support." Here's a walkie-talkie Annie, we'll be providing moral support.
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Post by blazingstar on May 29, 2018 17:20:31 GMT
Beyond an apology, he needs to really see her, as a person, not just "smallish copy of dead Surma". Only then can there be any sort of emotional sincerity between him and Annie. I think that he trusts her to do her job in the Forest is a good sign that he's making some progress, but there's still a long way to go. This could be the big crisis that forces him to work with his daughter and actually find out who she is. I completely agree. Antimony is currently the only exception to the rule of "Tony can only be himself when he's alone with someone". I think he can't be himself with her because every time he looks at her, he doesn't see Annie - he sees Annie AND the ghost of his wife.
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Post by blazingstar on May 29, 2018 17:23:30 GMT
I am also hopeful for some sort of emotional progress, but I don't know whether Tom intends to give it. At least there's some minor precedent in that other characters with checkered pasts (Ysengrin, Reynardine, Jack, Winsbury) have each reconciled with Annie. I guess Eggers is the one person and the psychopomps still get on her nerves? That may not change. So I do hope Tony and Annie get to heal at least a little. Do we know if Eggers still annoys her? They haven't interacted properly in a long time (since this, right?). The upcoming scene will probably remedy that.
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Post by pyradonis on May 29, 2018 17:54:13 GMT
I think it's intended as a joke about Ysengrin. Yes, I meant that occasion. Tom himself called Ysengrin Annie's "tank" on that page.
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