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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 23, 2018 7:05:48 GMT
So it wasn't Anja. It was someone else in the Court or perhaps someone who used a similar technology. Or is that just what she wants us to think?
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Post by madjack on May 23, 2018 7:17:13 GMT
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Post by theonethatgotaway on May 23, 2018 7:22:02 GMT
Weird, to me, it seems Tony is implying it's Kat's doing the protocol was secretly installed. But Kat is just as surprised as everybody else, so, what's going on? Also, if the shielding magicks were only discovered by Anja, it wasn't the old guard that installed the protocol, so who?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 23, 2018 7:24:12 GMT
The most obvious suspect is Donald.
[edit] I'm tellin' you guys, he had means, method, opportunity and motive; he's known to sneak around plus he's even a user on Anja's system. Not telling Anja gives her plausible deniabiliy. If he got busted he'd take the rap and she would be safe.[/edit]
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Post by jda on May 23, 2018 7:27:47 GMT
Anja acknowledging THAT as HER tech simplifies the timeline, as in not being Diego's. The question is: who is duplicating/cloning/syntethizing the naturally occurring etheric powers: the Court, or The Robots themselves? Is there somewhere a red headed, fire igniting robot waiting?
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Post by madjack on May 23, 2018 7:30:55 GMT
Why would anyone install Anja's shielding tech in the robots at all? It's possible the Court may have decided to do it as a fallback without telling anyone else, but why go to those lengths to prepare a defense when they were already feeling secure in their position? They were content to ignore the Forest for years after Surma left.
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Post by faiiry on May 23, 2018 7:45:49 GMT
Can't picture Anja being extremely angry about anything. Maybe her "extreme anger" is a cover for the fact that she Knows Something.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 23, 2018 7:48:30 GMT
Why would anyone install Anja's shielding tech in the robots at all? It's possible the Court may have decided to do it as a fallback without telling anyone else, but why go to those lengths to prepare a defense when they were already feeling secure in their position? They were content to ignore the Forest for years after Surma left. Like I posted previously the advantage of using the robots is that very few people would be required to carry this out and it could probably be done without anyone noticing.
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Post by madjack on May 23, 2018 7:50:45 GMT
Yeah you're on the money with that but I'm more wondering about who saw the need? Edit: Can't picture Anja being extremely angry about anything. Maybe her "extreme anger" is a cover for the fact that she Knows Something. Kat's gotta get her indignation from somewhere.
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Post by faiiry on May 23, 2018 7:52:55 GMT
I was thinking on how Tony can't seem to call anyone by their nickname (except Donnie in Microsat 5), and then I realised how devastating it would be if he called Kat Kat, but couldn't do the same for Annie. It would really drive home this whole minor storyline of Kat and Tony's friendship being mirrored with Annie's inability to connect with him. But nope, he calls her Katerina because he's a crusty old man and nicknames weren't invented when he was a kid, I guess. (Except Donnie.)
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Post by faiiry on May 23, 2018 8:02:42 GMT
Yeah you're on the money with that but I'm more wondering about who saw the need? Edit: Can't picture Anja being extremely angry about anything. Maybe her "extreme anger" is a cover for the fact that she Knows Something. Kat's gotta get her indignation from somewhere.Given that both her parents seem like the chillest hippies who ever walked the earth and whose house always smells of weed, I guess I just assumed Kat's spunk comes from... I don't know, her robot parts? I just wish we could SEE Anja's version of "extremely angry." Especially since Tony isn't given to exaggerating.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 23, 2018 8:18:54 GMT
Is there somewhere a red headed, fire igniting robot waiting? You mean this robot on the poster in panel #2?
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Post by Sauzels on May 23, 2018 8:53:12 GMT
My question is where Zimmy is during all of this. There's no way this isn't stressful enough for a flare-up; is some section of the court enjoying a nice vacation right now?
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Post by shadow3 on May 23, 2018 9:09:40 GMT
"A direct attack from Coyote"
I guess he doesn't know what happened yet. That helps give us an idea of how long after the attack this chapter takes place, which is probably as short as less than an hour.
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Post by philman on May 23, 2018 9:11:11 GMT
Ah, I told you it was Anja's shield used without her knowledge! Why would anyone install Anja's shielding tech in the robots at all? It's possible the Court may have decided to do it as a fallback without telling anyone else, but why go to those lengths to prepare a defense when they were already feeling secure in their position? They were content to ignore the Forest for years after Surma left. Because as previously mentioned, the Court was not aware of Jeanne, (at least publicly, as all records of her and the the incident were stricken from the records, and I am inclined to believe them about this one), and did not know that it was her keeping the court safe all these years. And who says they were feeling safe? They may have had all sorts of defence mechanisms we don't yet know about, or that were superseded by the shield. If they did know about Jeanne then the Shield might have been a backup, it never hurts to have a backup just in case something fails with your first defence, or if they were not aware of her then it might have been put in place anyway as a defence in case anything did go wrong. As it obviously just has.
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Post by philman on May 23, 2018 9:15:27 GMT
Can't picture Anja being extremely angry about anything. Maybe her "extreme anger" is a cover for the fact that she Knows Something. She's Spanish (or Galician), have you seen them when they get angry? You don't want to get in their way!
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Post by arf on May 23, 2018 9:30:24 GMT
A new mystery: who set up the shield protocol in the robots, and for what purpose?
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Post by fjodorii on May 23, 2018 9:37:46 GMT
Hang on, did Anja create the shield technology, or did she (re)discover technology that had been lost? I can picture her calling it her technology in both cases but it would make quite a difference.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 23, 2018 10:01:04 GMT
"A direct attack from Coyote" I guess he doesn't know what happened yet. That helps give us an idea of how long after the attack this chapter takes place, which is probably as short as less than an hour. I'm guessing at least nine hours lapsed between chapters. See reasoning in my previous post here plus since then Antimony has repeatedly changed clothes. So maybe two days. I think Antimony has been deemed a security risk so Smitface is the only eyewitness to what happened to Coyote and he's in close with Antimony to the extent that he spoke up for her when she was doing something that they disapproved of. So Smitface is questionable. The threat of Coyote has been on the Court's mind since he pushed that building over that one time so it may be a distinction without a difference to them at the moment. Coyote attack vs. Ys attacking with Coyote's power = TO-mato/to-MAT-o. Anthony could have learned that it was Ys from Antimony but of course that would require listening to her.
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Post by madjack on May 23, 2018 10:21:07 GMT
Coyote has been on the Court's mind since he pushed that building over that one time so it may be a distinction without a difference to them at the moment. I'd forgotten about the building incident, that could be a really simple answer to this: And who says they were feeling safe? They may have had all sorts of defence mechanisms we don't yet know about, or that were superseded by the shield. The shield was a relatively recent and quiet update to the robots done post Coyote-tantrum after Anthony's return, without Anja's knowledge. I have another idea, but it's wildspec territory and needs more information to begin to hold water...
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 23, 2018 11:15:55 GMT
Lacking any evidence for the robo-shield culprit, I accuse the Seraphs. They protect their Angel whether she wants the protection or not.
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Post by fanofts on May 23, 2018 11:50:14 GMT
Can't picture Anja being extremely angry about anything. Maybe her "extreme anger" is a cover for the fact that she Knows Something. She's Spanish (or Galician), have you seen them when they get angry? You don't want to get in their way! Not Romanian, as Tom hinted at here? Paz Cadena-Blanco is Galician.
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Post by madjack on May 23, 2018 11:53:10 GMT
Wasn't Anja gitano, or Spanish Romani?
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Post by Corvo on May 23, 2018 12:11:33 GMT
Why, you insensible jerk! Can't you read the mood even a little?! You're interrupting science talk here! Go sob somewhere else!
In other news, a group of robots where accused of patent infringement during a gardening session last week. The robots allege they were "only doing their job" and "had in mind only the best interest of everyone".
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Post by ctso74 on May 23, 2018 13:18:46 GMT
Robot is a likely culprit. He has the cooperation of many robots, easy access to Kat's goodies, and perhaps easy access to Anja's shield tech. More importantly, he's one of the few people to know about Jeanne and her removal. To keep the Angel safe, Robot may have taken this step, with the other robots' cooperation. Plus, could the Court altero all other robots, without Robot's cult finding out.
Then again, this could simply be a new measure since Coyote's tantrum. But, I'm looking at Robot...
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Post by pyradonis on May 23, 2018 13:35:47 GMT
Hang on, did Anja create the shield technology, or did she (re)discover technology that had been lost? I can picture her calling it her technology in both cases but it would make quite a difference. As far as I understood it, she made the shield spell (that she already knew as a kid) compatible with her etheric computer.
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Post by todd on May 23, 2018 13:52:16 GMT
My question is where Zimmy is during all of this. There's no way this isn't stressful enough for a flare-up; is some section of the court enjoying a nice vacation right now? Tom probably ignores the likely consequences for Zimmy whenever the story doesn't call for her to be on-stage. (It might even turn out that Zimmy and Gamma left the Court after the events in "The Torn Sea", and we won't find out the details until Tom gets to bring out his often-talked about spin-off starring them.)
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Post by madjack on May 23, 2018 13:58:38 GMT
Tom probably ignores the likely consequences for Zimmy whenever the story doesn't call for her to be on-stage. (It might even turn out that Zimmy and Gamma left the Court after the events in "The Torn Sea", and we won't find out the details until Tom gets to bring out his often-talked about spin-off starring them.) There is no way Zimmy is leaving the Court ever, she knows what kind of danger she puts people in while in regular society.
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Post by ohthatone on May 23, 2018 13:59:41 GMT
I'm not so sure about the culprit being Robot or the Seraphs protecting their angel. They are covering an awful lot of area when they really only care about one person. But I'm not abandoning this thought! Did the Shadow Men know about it and not tell Julie because they suspected her relationship with Arthur?
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Post by seedmagnesium on May 23, 2018 15:38:37 GMT
It looks like the Arthur subplot was meant to make us care that all the other robots are disabled, but I'm not really feeling that emotion. Robot clearly has some role to play here, otherwise it would be him that's disabled and Shadow by his side.
I'm also skeptical that this is Anja's doing. She must have discovered or reinvented the shield program. This might go back to Diego somehow, leading more irony the whole Jeanne thing.
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