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Post by keef on May 23, 2018 22:07:38 GMT
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Post by todd on May 23, 2018 23:51:18 GMT
I wonder if spending this much time on the question of "could Jeanne have repelled this attack if she was still trapped and bound by the Founders' work" is misguided. Whether the answer is yes or no, the Founders' action was still morally wrong, which is what counts.
The problem is, of course, that in the story, a bad act (murdering Jeanne and enslaving her ghost, twisting her into a being of pure hatred, anger, and revenge) protects the Court, keeping it safe, and a good act (freeing Jeanne from her slavery) endangers the Court and its people - so that doing something wrong has good results, and doing something right bad results. That's what's troubled me most about this part of the story - but fortunately, the story isn't over yet, and there's still time for Tom to provide events that will counter this impression.
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Post by pyradonis on May 24, 2018 15:44:56 GMT
Something those all have in common is they're coming from the Court. I wonder if Jeanne can/did differentiate, or can suss out intent. (BTW none of those links work for me.) I'm trying to find the page where Kat's using that little remote controlled drone. Andrew hits the bird in the chest with the thrown blinker stone, which suggests it was flying towards the Court, not away from it. Also, Jeanne attacked Annie and Parley, who were coming from the Court, which she knew. She has reasons enough to hate Court denizens even more, after all. |
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Post by jda on May 24, 2018 21:36:59 GMT
Seems like all Red and Bl.., Aliyu had to do was "try" to cross the Annan waters, and Jeanne would have made fairy kebab,and everyone happy
Maybe Jeanne was not commonly known
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Post by todd on May 25, 2018 0:12:00 GMT
She has reasons enough to hate Court denizens even more, after all. I wonder if the Founders ever suspected that that would happen. (Though since nobody from the Court would have reason - they assumed - to visit the bottom of the chasm, they might not have worried about that even if it had occurred to them.) |
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Post by todd on May 25, 2018 0:17:35 GMT
Maybe Jeanne was not commonly known Possibly - given that those forest-folk who challenged her always wound up dead and thus unable to report back. Not to mention that since most of the forest-folk had evidently put aside whatever grudge they had with the Court, they no longer had any reason to try crossing the river and thus meeting Jeanne. Maybe Coyote and Ysengrin were the only ones left in the Wood who still knew about her - or cared. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 25, 2018 11:44:06 GMT
Maybe Jeanne was not commonly known Possibly - given that those forest-folk who challenged her always wound up dead and thus unable to report back. Not to mention that since most of the forest-folk had evidently put aside whatever grudge they had with the Court, they no longer had any reason to try crossing the river and thus meeting Jeanne. Maybe Coyote and Ysengrin were the only ones left in the Wood who still knew about her - or cared. I've always assumed the suicide fairies knew that the Annan Waters were dangerous and went down there to get killed, but they didn't immediately try to cross the water because they didn't know why the Annan Waters were so dangerous. |
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Post by pyradonis on May 27, 2018 14:29:25 GMT
Possibly - given that those forest-folk who challenged her always wound up dead and thus unable to report back. Not to mention that since most of the forest-folk had evidently put aside whatever grudge they had with the Court, they no longer had any reason to try crossing the river and thus meeting Jeanne. Maybe Coyote and Ysengrin were the only ones left in the Wood who still knew about her - or cared. I've always assumed the suicide fairies knew that the Annan Waters were dangerous and went down there to get killed, but they didn't immediately try to cross the water because they didn't know why the Annan Waters were so dangerous. At least one of the monsters killed by Jeanne states it specifically came to best the demon of the waters. To me that suggests they knew of a powerful, deadly being on the Court's side of the ravine, but nothing exact (probably what some Forest creatures gleaned from watching others trying to cross). As for the fairies, I assume they did not cross over the waters because they saw that as entering the Court territory, which they were not allowed to do without passing the test first. |
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Post by netherdan on May 28, 2018 12:42:08 GMT
You have blank links in "Exhibits B and C" which makes them point to the current page. And strangely enough, for me they point to the link used to reach that page, i.e. the first time I clicked it sent me to my own post which made me think you misquoted me, the second time it sent me to page 2 (I clicked it in a quote at page 2) then I got back to page 1 to try it out again and it linked to the start of page 1 That's proboards having their weird way with bbcodes, heh |
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Post by pyradonis on May 28, 2018 12:53:29 GMT
You have blank links in "Exhibits B and C" which makes them point to the current page. And strangely enough, for me they point to the link used to reach that page, i.e. the first time I clicked it sent me to my own post which made me think you misquoted me, the second time it sent me to page 2 (I clicked it in a quote at page 2) then I got back to page 1 to try it out again and it linked to the start of page 1 That's proboards having their weird way with bbcodes, heh Well, that is strange. I edited my original post, hopefully it stays functional this time. |
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Post by Runningflame on May 29, 2018 16:31:24 GMT
Seems like all Red and Bl.., Aliyu had to do was "try" to cross the Annan waters, and Jeanne would have made fairy kebab,and everyone happy Not everyone happy... Jeanne never happy  |
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