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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 11, 2018 7:08:05 GMT
Now we know for sure the robots were instrumental in creating the shield. |
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Post by Timberwere on May 11, 2018 7:12:15 GMT
Given Robot's sinister touches, I am not entirely sure whether the word 'luckily' fully applies...
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 11, 2018 7:21:04 GMT
Also: With the mobile robots all otherwise occupied the Court will have a labor shortage, a shortage made more poignant because of the emergency situation.
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Post by turniptree on May 11, 2018 7:28:15 GMT
Hm. The last panel uses the present tense. Maybe this isn't a far into the future Annie?
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Post by madjack on May 11, 2018 7:34:36 GMT
So Anja had no idea this defense even existed and her etheric computer had nothing to do with it. That shoots down one theory, but maybe opens another... Hmm.
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Post by philman on May 11, 2018 7:53:54 GMT
So Anja had no idea this defense even existed and her etheric computer had nothing to do with it. That shoots down one theory, but maybe opens another... Hmm. She may have known that the court were using her purple shield thing that she developed as a defence, however she may not have known it would involve all the robots, or how sophisticated it had become. |
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Post by fjodorii on May 11, 2018 7:55:32 GMT
So Parley didn't run off to activate a power station. And it would suggest the people at the court have no defences of their own, apart from Eggers and Parley. Sounds a bit risky.
I wonder if the unified robot shield protocol (URSP) was designed by Diego, in an attempt to get the Court masters to release Jeanne from the Annan without leaving the Court exposed to the Forest and the later generations of robots have been adding the extra bit to the CPU ever since?*
(*if this turns out to be correct I shall claim a really big cookie)
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Post by madjack on May 11, 2018 7:57:07 GMT
So Anja had no idea this defense even existed and her etheric computer had nothing to do with it. That shoots down one theory, but maybe opens another... Hmm. She may have known that the court were using her purple shield thing that she developed as a defence, however she may not have known it would involve all the robots, or how sophisticated it had become. I thought the purple shield was part of her innate etheric talent, the one generated by the computer itself looks pretty different, but that was flat vs Anja's bubble. That is a good point though. |
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Post by csj on May 11, 2018 8:02:40 GMT
Well, that's a pretty sweet seraph bonus.
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Post by kefka on May 11, 2018 8:09:48 GMT
Hm. The last panel uses the present tense. Maybe this isn't a far into the future Annie? Good catch. I wonder if we'll know why she's telling her story soon. |
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Post by philman on May 11, 2018 8:28:54 GMT
Hm. The last panel uses the present tense. Maybe this isn't a far into the future Annie? Good catch. I wonder if we'll know why she's telling her story soon. I imagine it is just to get everyone caught up on the court's immediate response so we can get into the story involving Annie and Kat sooner. |
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Post by arf on May 11, 2018 9:08:10 GMT
I wonder if other Seraph models have been unaffected? Otherwise, this protocol sounds like it's down to Robot and his religion.
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Post by agasa on May 11, 2018 9:55:42 GMT
I wouldn't have guessed but this page for the first time (I think) in the history of Gunnerkrigg Court made me tear up.
Arthur being lost to the URSP. Juliette holding his hand. I think his name may be significant after all.
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Post by pyradonis on May 11, 2018 10:30:53 GMT
On one hand I don't believe ANY of the court staff were unaware of this function. On the other hand, they actually didn't know about their primary mode of defense (Jeanne). On a third hand, why should anyone install this feature into the robots and destroy the records? The page suggests Robot was unaware of this function as well, which in turn suggests no robot knew about it. Diego might have built it into the original designs without telling his "children", but how much of them were even used to create the modern robots? Could this feature have been built in by the original robots? On a fourth hand, I'm happy to know it's definitely Annie narrating again. I missed it.  |
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Post by faiiry on May 11, 2018 11:59:31 GMT
 I guess after doing so well for so long about showing not telling, Tom has earned the right to beat us over the head. But still... ow, my head. I hope this doesn't go on for too many more pages. Also, "Juliette has set up camp." Implying Annie is narrating right now, not some future date. Also that Annie hasn't obeyed the sky signal yet. |
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Post by todd on May 11, 2018 12:46:57 GMT
On one hand I don't believe ANY of the court staff were unaware of this function. On the other hand, they actually didn't know about their primary mode of defense (Jeanne). On a third hand, why should anyone install this feature into the robots and destroy the records? The page suggests Robot was unaware of this function as well, which in turn suggests no robot knew about it. Diego might have built it into the original designs without telling his "children", but how much of them were even used to create the modern robots? Could this feature have been built in by the original robots? The present-day Court didn't know about Jeanne because the Founders were so ashamed of what they did that they deliberately hushed it up (except for Diego's recording, thanks to a guilty conscience, which for most of the Court's history, only the robots were aware of). There's no similar reason to hush up the robots' ability to generate the force field - and it certainly raises the question of who installed it and why the information was lost. If it goes back to the Founders' time, why not use it instead of the Jeanne plan? It would have done the job of protecting the Court from the forest without the stain of a double murder - even a covered-up double murder. (And we've got an additional mystery - the modifications to Robot that make him immune.) |
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Post by todd on May 11, 2018 12:49:39 GMT
So Parley didn't run off to activate a power station. And it would suggest the people at the court have no defences of their own, apart from Eggers and Parley. Sounds a bit risky. Maybe the dismissive attitude towards the forest at work again - a tone of "They're just a bunch of primitives" - though it seems to come and go. One moment they're coming up with crooked stratagems for keeping Gilltie at bay (murdering Jeanne, deceiving Renard into thinking that Surma's in love with him), and then ignoring it (to the point where they let the Medium position go unfilled for years after Surma resigned). |
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Post by kefka on May 11, 2018 12:51:10 GMT
Good catch. I wonder if we'll know why she's telling her story soon. I imagine it is just to get everyone caught up on the court's immediate response so we can get into the story involving Annie and Kat sooner. I mean, Future Annie has been narrating since the beginning of the comic. This is the first time she did so in the present tense. |
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Post by todd on May 11, 2018 13:01:07 GMT
Given Robot's sinister touches, I am not entirely sure whether the word 'luckily' fully applies... True, but with all the other robots (at least, the "mobile" ones) standing in place, generating the force field, and focused on it through their programming, Robot can't influence or direct them at present. So he can't do much harm (assuming he doesn't find a way of overriding their programming so that they'll stop powering the force field and go back to gathering about him and listening to his evangelism). |
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Post by arf on May 11, 2018 13:19:13 GMT
I mean, Future Annie has been narrating since the beginning of the comic. This is the first time she did so in the present tense. No. The narration in Microsat 5 was also in the present tense. |
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Post by aithiopika on May 11, 2018 13:31:37 GMT
On one hand I don't believe ANY of the court staff were unaware of this function. On the other hand, they actually didn't know about their primary mode of defense (Jeanne). On a third hand, why should anyone install this feature into the robots and destroy the records? I wonder if the unified robot shield protocol (URSP) was designed by Diego, in an attempt to get the Court masters to release Jeanne from the Annan without leaving the Court exposed to the Forest and the later generations of robots have been adding the extra bit to the CPU ever since?* Well, remember the following: -According to the Ancient Robot (ch. 33), the Ancient Robots created the Court Robots and did so after Diego died. After creating the Court Robots, the Ancient Robots killed themselves, so they weren't around to spill info on the Court Robot programming. -According to the Court Robots, their operating code was never designed to be human-readable, and in fact wasn't until Kat came along (and then only barely), so it's not clear that any Court researchers could have discovered this between then and now. Given the above, it seems plausible that (biological) Court staff never knew about this. Less because of destroying the records than because we know that the robots in the know committed mass suicide when they finished, so there may never have been any records. |
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Post by ctso74 on May 11, 2018 13:34:23 GMT
There's that "modification", again.
Who would have had the expertise to make Robot's modification, besides Diego or "future" Kat? Can "future" Kat's actions affect the past via Etheric tomfoolery?
Thinking about "future" Kat effecting the past and present, brought up another question for me. What are the Tic-Tocs doing, right now? Are they the aerial component of the shield, or are they really inconvenienced by this big purple thing in the sky?
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Post by netherdan on May 11, 2018 14:56:41 GMT
He nailed it. It could focus on all those getting separated, by evacuation or duty. I'm curious as to how Robot and Arthur acted during Shields Up. I'm assuming they went Red-Eyed. Also, there's the possibly darker story line, of how former Forest inhabitants will be treated. It's possible that Robot was the only one who didn't suffer a system override since he had his entire body rebuilt by Kat. The head part looks original but I'm assuming she had to drop most of the coding it had and create an entire new interface to interact with the grown body she gave him (which if I'm not mistaken is a very simple one that just let him access the components since he had to learn how to do everything just like a human baby learning to walk). If I'm right about it, this is a good source of religious propaganda that he could use, advocating that the Angel gave him not only a body that can truly die but also had free will Well there's your answer, ctso74, and there's my half a cookie, again. *sigh* I gotta stop making specific predictions Well, at least he could still use this fact to show off to the other robots that his Angel gifted body has free will, that's another half a cookie I'd get |
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Post by machiavelli33 on May 11, 2018 15:46:26 GMT
So it is war, then. Arthur was drafted, just like the rest of them, with all the subsumed tragedy and emotion that comes with it.
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Does this make Robot a draft-dodger?
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Post by bedinsis on May 11, 2018 16:29:33 GMT
The first image makes it look like a castle with those pointy things that are meant to provide cover for bowmen on the walls (that I cannot recall what they're called) formed by the robots.
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Post by feraldog on May 11, 2018 16:56:14 GMT
So Parley didn't run off to activate a power station. And it would suggest the people at the court have no defences of their own, apart from Eggers and Parley. Sounds a bit risky. Maybe the dismissive attitude towards the forest at work again - a tone of "They're just a bunch of primitives" - though it seems to come and go. One moment they're coming up with crooked stratagems for keeping Gilltie at bay (murdering Jeanne, deceiving Renard into thinking that Surma's in love with him), and then ignoring it (to the point where they let the Medium position go unfilled for years after Surma resigned). Well with someone like Coyote in charge of the Forest... I bet he lets things go quiet for a generation or two until he is reasonably sure whoever is in charge of the Court will be caught unawares when he decides to do something. "Let's see what they came up with to stop me THIS time!" |
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Post by gpvos on May 11, 2018 16:56:28 GMT
Was it already established that the ceramic addition was unique to S13? I was under the impression that all robots, or maybe only the Seraphs, had something like it.
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Post by shaihulud on May 11, 2018 17:40:00 GMT
The first image makes it look like a castle with those pointy things that are meant to provide cover for bowmen on the walls (that I cannot recall what they're called) formed by the robots. They're called crenels. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlement |
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Post by csj on May 11, 2018 21:33:39 GMT
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Post by pyradonis on May 12, 2018 0:06:04 GMT
Was it already established that the ceramic addition was unique to S13? I was under the impression that all robots, or maybe only the Seraphs, had something like it. The ship's CPU didn't have the extra part. I can't recall if any other robot CPUs were shown in the comic, but I'm pretty sure it was never explicitly stated S13 was the only one with it (and Kat apparently never asked about it, at least not onscreen). There were no Seraphs shown among the robots creating the shield, were there? |
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