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Post by faiiry on Mar 5, 2018 8:02:09 GMT
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Post by madjack on Mar 5, 2018 8:04:18 GMT
So it's confirmed that he does know. welp.
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Post by turniptree on Mar 5, 2018 8:08:14 GMT
So it's confirmed that he does know. welp. "Welp" was my exact reaction. Ysengrin's knowledge of the river does not bode well... |
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Post by faiiry on Mar 5, 2018 8:12:21 GMT
Real talk here. This is a major event in the comic. In my view, Gunnerkrigg Court has been building up to a forest attack on the court since we first saw the bridge on page 5, which was almost 13 years ago now.
If this is indeed the closure of Coyote's story, and perhaps Ysengrin's as well, the comic is probably closer to ending than it is to the middle.
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Post by madjack on Mar 5, 2018 8:29:56 GMT
That assumes the attack itself would be the endgame though... and I don't think it would be. What are they going to do? Kill everyone in the Court? OK, cool, story over. Cripple the Court's defenses and keep the threat of invasion over their heads? Anything less than totally wiping the Court out would leave a mess to clean up and new priorities for the survivors. I think we're at most 2/3rds of the way though, if not less.
Does the Forest even have the muscle to take on the Court? There's a lot about both sides we don't know...
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Post by arf on Mar 5, 2018 8:34:01 GMT
Not so much a wolf as a T. Rex there, Ys.
With those puny humans in his sights, I wonder how long it is before Ysengrin starts to wonder *who* disposed of the Ghost of the Annan Waters?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 5, 2018 8:35:03 GMT
I guess we're going back to the days when powerful dog creature rains misery and joy on humans. Not sure how well the "joy" will be accepted after the misery backlog gets rained down, which probably just means more misery. |
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Post by bicarbonat on Mar 5, 2018 9:38:11 GMT
*adjusts tinfoil hat* I still think watching a god come splitting out of his erstwhile servant is gonna make a hell of a Chekov's retort.
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Post by foresterr on Mar 5, 2018 10:31:13 GMT
That hit the spot. Aaand that makes me wonder, how long till Rey gets his original body back. He and Ys had an interesting relationship in the original source materials, didn't they. Coyote might hypothetically be dead, but the Trickster never dies. Huh. Thinking about Reynardine actually reminded me of something. Every power Coyote gives away is flawed somehow, so what's going to be the deal with his strength? Unless eating him afterwards closed that particular loophole... but maybe then it closed it globally, meaning Reynardine could now use his power without agonizing over the consequences. |
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Post by csj on Mar 5, 2018 10:43:58 GMT
I wonder what he tasted like.
Wait, never mind me.
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Post by madragoran on Mar 5, 2018 11:35:52 GMT
I wonder what he tasted like. Wait, never mind me. He tasted like raisins? *j/k* Seriously though, ashes and dirt most probably. This was an act of deicide not and all you can eat buffet.. Coyote is mostly glamour and energy not sure he actually has flesh to taste of anything. Though maybe if he smelled like fresh baked walnut cake he might have a lot more friends. I am not sure any of this was intended to "make Ys wiser" or calm him down. On the contrary I think it was just a means to fan up his rage and keep him primed and ready. Ys will attack the court, Annie will have to defend the court, Kat will use the robots and Coyote will appear when things are done and roll around on the floor laughing. |
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Post by artezzatrigger on Mar 5, 2018 11:59:21 GMT
This page feels slightly disturbing.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 5, 2018 12:02:30 GMT
*adjusts tinfoil hat* I still think watching a god come splitting out of his erstwhile servant is gonna make a hell of a Chekov's retort. Maybe Ysengrin will have the bowl movement of his life. |
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Post by fia on Mar 5, 2018 12:27:16 GMT
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Post by phantaskippy on Mar 5, 2018 13:47:30 GMT
I wonder what he tasted like. Wait, never mind me. I imagine he tastes like goose. |
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Post by phantaskippy on Mar 5, 2018 13:55:48 GMT
So now we get to upset the balance of power.
We've seen what team Mediators can do. Kat's tinkering has entered territory where she might be able to separate or neutralize Coyote/Ysengrim's combining. Parley+Smitty is at a level where Parley could hang with Jeanne for entire seconds, who else can do that? Annie has shown glimpses of her power, and both Coyote and Ysengrim have pushed her to really let loose. Reynardine is still trapped, and is okay with it, but could he take over Ysengrim and end the threat that fast?
This team is ready for a fight, and I think we'll see some if not all of this take place. Coyote would probably consider this a win if Reynardine stopped being content and took back some power, or if Annie stepped up and put down Ysengrim. Both would be great too. And then what would the court do?
I wonder how long it will be before James isn't a match for Parley, and an awakened Annie is probably too much for the court to deal with. Annie's father being there makes the whole thing come together beautifully.
I'm just really excited to see this play out.
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Post by todd on Mar 5, 2018 14:01:58 GMT
That assumes the attack itself would be the endgame though... and I don't think it would be. What are they going to do? Kill everyone in the Court? OK, cool, story over. Cripple the Court's defenses and keep the threat of invasion over their heads? Anything less than totally wiping the Court out would leave a mess to clean up and new priorities for the survivors. I think we're at most 2/3rds of the way though, if not less. Does the Forest even have the muscle to take on the Court? There's a lot about both sides we don't know... I think we can definitely rule out a mass slaughter of everyone in the Court - that would end the story prematurely. I wonder whether even the kind of attack that leaves the Court still standing but aware that the tensions with the Forest have escalated into the start of a "hot war" would be right for the story. As I mentioned a few days ago, one of the likely responses the Court would take would be to evacuate the children from a potential war zone - meaning, most likely, that Annie, Kat, and the rest would be leaving the Court for a safer location (presumably other schools in the UK, far away from Gilltie Wood) - which would make it difficult to continue the webcomic in a recognizable form. More likely, Tom will have Annie and the others find some way of curing Ysengrin of his madness before he can get far with his assault - filled with a lot more delving into the wolf's character, explorations of the way the etheric elements work in the "Gunnerkrigg universe" and things like that - much closer to the tone of "Gunnerkrigg Court", certainly, than a lot of straight-out fighting. |
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Post by philman on Mar 5, 2018 14:58:27 GMT
The Court is vast, and we still don't know the intentions of the senior members.
sure, a normal school would evacuate the kids elsewhere. This isn't a normal school. I can easily envisage that they just move the kids to a different area of the court, we know it is massive, and seems to have every facility under the sun.
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Post by jda on Mar 5, 2018 15:25:12 GMT
Not so much wild spec as a weak prediction:
Scene 1: Annie and Smith running their lungs out from an rampaging/focused Ysengrin.
Scene 2: They only see a blur of green, red and brown, passing alongside them, shaking the earth and making them fall, but mostly ignoring and leaving them behind.
Scene 3: Smith: "Wha-" Annie (after a few seconds of recollection): "The river! He knows about Jeanne!".
Possible Bonus:
Scene 4: Annie goes into Saiyan mode and either flies to catch Y's, or throws a Wall of Fire on the river, to stop him and give him pause.
Alternative Scene 2: Y's goes near Smiths, stumbles and fall, hitting his head and dropping inconscious. You know, that'd be lucky.
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Post by blazingstar on Mar 5, 2018 15:28:31 GMT
I am now officially on-board the train that agrees Ysengrin DEFINITELY killed/ate Coyote.....but then Coyote realized he was Ysengrin, too.
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Post by jda on Mar 5, 2018 15:44:31 GMT
That assumes the attack itself would be the endgame though... and I don't think it would be. [...] Anything less than totally wiping the Court out would leave a mess to clean up and new priorities for the survivors. I think we're at most 2/3rds of the way though, if not less. Does the Forest even have the muscle to take on the Court? ... I think we can definitely rule out a mass slaughter of everyone in the Court - that would end the story prematurely. More likely, Tom will have Annie and the others find some way of curing Ysengrin of his madness before he can get far with his assault - filled with a lot more delving into the wolf's character, explorations of the way the etheric elements work in the "Gunnerkrigg universe" and things like that - much closer to the tone of "Gunnerkrigg Court", certainly, than a lot of straight-out fighting. Well, I think a full frontal murderous attack on the Court would be a pretty good advancement to the story, as it would make the Court show its true colors, a) throw the Omega Device officially on the mix .It very well could be the Ether supressing weapon we all know The Court it's going to need sometime (maybe there is where the Seraphs got the anti-magic tags?) A last resort? b) also start the long awaited divide between Kat and Annie, by Kat bringing out the heavy weapons she (should) have been constructing/going full MechaGoddess, against Y's, and Annie defending him. c) as I previously said, the Reynardine vs Ysengrin battle is what (I think) their names were selected, with maybe Ysengrin dying from Rey taking over his body when in blind rampage Ys attacks Annie. |
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Post by manxy on Mar 5, 2018 16:19:45 GMT
I've been reading and loving this comic for well over a decade, and I have never been so on the edge of my seat with the story. And that's a high bar, because I've loved every minute of the story, even when it breaks my heart. |
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Post by blazingstar on Mar 5, 2018 18:04:15 GMT
a) throw the Omega Device officially on the mix .It very well could be the Ether supressing weapon we all know The Court it's going to need sometime (maybe there is where the Seraphs got the anti-magic tags?) A last resort? I forgot about those paper tags! I just re-read that entire chapter because of this! Where DID those things come from? Any theories? Can we take this discussion to another thread, is there an existing thread that is appropriate for this topic? |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 5, 2018 18:24:19 GMT
Kat still has Diego’s arrow. It would be ironic if they used the arrow to stop Ysengrin and he ended up becoming the next Guardian of the Annan.
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Post by faiiry on Mar 5, 2018 21:28:10 GMT
Kat still has Diego’s arrow. It would be ironic if they used the arrow to stop Ysengrin and he ended up becoming the next Guardian of the Annan. Actually, I just now developed the theory that the comic has been setting up Smitty to be the guardian after his close call in The Other Shore. Don't ask me where it came from. I just feel it. |
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Post by jda on Mar 5, 2018 21:55:35 GMT
The Omega Device
Coyote Tooth
Kat MechaGoddess form
Diego's arrow
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Is there a Official list of Chekhov's guns loaded and ready?
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Post by blazingstar on Mar 5, 2018 22:17:21 GMT
The Omega Device Coyote Tooth Kat MechaGoddess form Diego's arrow ... Is there a Official list of Chekhov's guns loaded and ready? Don't forget CoyoteWater TM , the artificial human body being made in Kat's lab, and the Seed of Bismuth. |
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Post by Mitth'raw'nuruodo on Mar 5, 2018 23:09:14 GMT
Real talk here. This is a major event in the comic. In my view, Gunnerkrigg Court has been building up to a forest attack on the court since we first saw the bridge on page 5, which was almost 13 years ago now. If this is indeed the closure of Coyote's story, and perhaps Ysengrin's as well, the comic is probably closer to ending than it is to the middle. I can see Ysengrin's story ending into the tragic loss of the only strong voice of reason in the Forest and agitating the Court into direct action. Coyote simply isn't dead yet, however. This is all as he has foreseen it, though from personal experiences foresight isn't always perfect. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Mar 6, 2018 1:48:04 GMT
The Omega Device Coyote Tooth Kat MechaGoddess form Diego's arrow ... Is there a Official list of Chekhov's guns loaded and ready? There's Kat's "magic" wand (kinda overlaps w/ "MechaGoddess form) & computer, not to mention the fanatical shadows, fanatical robot cult, and the totally mysterious Tic-tocs. Although I guess the "robot cult" gun has already been fired once. |
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Post by Runningflame on Mar 6, 2018 2:50:58 GMT
Careful, Ysengrin. "You are what you eat."
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