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Post by saardvark on Mar 20, 2017 17:26:11 GMT
I actually de-lurked and signed up for a forum account (after 5+ years of following) just to join this discussion because I love bones so much. I agree its definitely not a human bone. My guess was originally that it was a bird humerus, based on the blade-like proximal head and how long and skinny it is. It could be a poorly interpreted femur, but pretty much every vertebrate (with femurs) has a well-defined femoral head, and the fact that tom usually tries harder than that makes me think thats not it... Other possibilities are that its a coyote tibia (or other animal) - since the tibial tuberosity does create a blade-like shape in a lateral view on a lot of quadrupeds. My most far-fetched guess was that its the pubis of a "lizard hipped" dinosaur but uh.... that ones a little out there... welcome, Jabbie. Paleontologist, perhaps? Orthopedic surgeon? |
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Post by crater on Mar 20, 2017 17:30:42 GMT
Heyyyy, fellow med student! Just based on who the chapter title mentions, my guess is that it's a coyote bone. I actually de-lurked and signed up for a forum account (after 5+ years of following) just to join this discussion because I love bones so much. I agree its definitely not a human bone. My guess was originally that it was a bird humerus, based on the blade-like proximal head and how long and skinny it is. It could be a poorly interpreted femur, but pretty much every vertebrate (with femurs) has a well-defined femoral head, and the fact that tom usually tries harder than that makes me think thats not it... Other possibilities are that its a coyote tibia (or other animal) - since the tibial tuberosity does create a blade-like shape in a lateral view on a lot of quadrupeds. My most far-fetched guess was that its the pubis of a "lizard hipped" dinosaur but uh.... that ones a little out there... Yeah thats all I got. it looked like a sideways wishbone to me.... |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Mar 20, 2017 17:33:06 GMT
speuclation time: Since Annie and the gang set Jeanne free, he is going to do the same on his side, maybe? Or this is literally the time he is going to pick a bone with someone from the court since he officially learns what they have done to the river and someone of the forest ( he likely knew already, but couldn't be bothered with it until now )? Or is he recommending a new diet to Ysengrin? A rough timeline seems to be: 1) Humans arrived at Gilette woods 2) Humans founded the Court 3) Coyote, Renard, & Ysengrin arrived 4) A conflict between the humans and the creatures of the wood causes Coyote to divide the woods from the court physically 5) The court uses Jeanne's spirit to further divide the court and the woods physically and etherically 6) The court builds a bridge over the river, re-connecting the court and the woods "on their terms" 7) Annie & Co release Jeanne's spirit Between Annie, Parley, & Smitty visiting the forest and that faerie visiting the court, plus more permissive attitudes towards those with etheric tendencies than in Annie's parent's day, I'd say we are possibly seeing some sort of re-connection between the two factions. I don't know if Coyote would go so far as undoing the ravine, I think he finds the conflict amusing, but whatever he's involved in I'm sure it's going to be chaotic. |
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Post by jabbie on Mar 20, 2017 17:58:57 GMT
I actually de-lurked and signed up for a forum account (after 5+ years of following) just to join this discussion because I love bones so much. I agree its definitely not a human bone. My guess was originally that it was a bird humerus, based on the blade-like proximal head and how long and skinny it is. It could be a poorly interpreted femur, but pretty much every vertebrate (with femurs) has a well-defined femoral head, and the fact that tom usually tries harder than that makes me think thats not it... Other possibilities are that its a coyote tibia (or other animal) - since the tibial tuberosity does create a blade-like shape in a lateral view on a lot of quadrupeds. My most far-fetched guess was that its the pubis of a "lizard hipped" dinosaur but uh.... that ones a little out there... welcome, Jabbie. Paleontologist, perhaps? Orthopedic surgeon? I'm a medical/scientific artist, but mostly I just love anatomy  I'm certainly not an expert, more like an enthused amateur... ... but I'm gunna double down on "bird bone" of one type or another, just for the sake of expressing a Strong Opinion on the Internet. |
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Post by Sauzels on Mar 20, 2017 18:15:50 GMT
I'm glad the first post of this thread went to the most appropriate person. From that page, it looks the most like a tibia, as jabbie said. Tom: "Crap, forgot to base it on a real bone." |
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Post by warrl on Mar 20, 2017 20:34:43 GMT
Renard answers ths question in one of extra pages at the end of a chapter. That's it? They all want to go to a bunch of tropical islands in the Pacific? |
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Post by luxanima on Mar 20, 2017 23:23:38 GMT
Yay! Story time?! Is that Ysengrin in the chapter thumbnail? I wonder, If it is, he still has his right ear  or how he lost his ear. HYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPE |
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Post by saardvark on Mar 20, 2017 23:28:10 GMT
welcome, Jabbie. Paleontologist, perhaps? Orthopedic surgeon? I'm a medical/scientific artist, but mostly I just love anatomy I'm certainly not an expert, more like an enthused amateur... ... but I'm gunna double down on "bird bone" of one type or another, just for the sake of expressing a Strong Opinion on the Internet. What do you think of crater's idea above that it is a sideways wishbone (bird clavicle, I guess?) |
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Post by saardvark on Mar 20, 2017 23:32:16 GMT
That's it? They all want to go to a bunch of tropical islands in the Pacific? it's not a bad destination.... they could all probably use a long, relaxing vacation after the "Jeanne Incident" |
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Post by todd on Mar 21, 2017 0:43:47 GMT
I don't know if Coyote would go so far as undoing the ravine, I think he finds the conflict amusing, but whatever he's involved in I'm sure it's going to be chaotic. I think that Coyote's in favor of keeping the ravine. It suits his desires well: 1. It probably helps encourage an "us vs. them" outlook in both the Court and the Forest, keeping both communities suspicious towards each other, uneasy about each other, lots of tension and distrust and subtle conflict. 2. At the same time, the ravine makes it harder for the Court and the Forest to fight each other; most likely such an armed confrontation would result in their wiping each other out, and leaving Coyote with nothing to play with. A "cold war" situation best fits Coyote, and the ravine helps bring it about. (And let everyone on both sides of the Annan hope that Coyote never winds up becoming so bored with the place that he decides to just let their cold war turn hot, ending his stay with an enormous ka-boom and strolling off to some other part of the world to entertain himself, leaving the Guides to sort out the ensuing mess - most likely an enormous smoldering crater where the Court and the Wood used to be.) |
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Post by puntosmx on Mar 21, 2017 4:04:01 GMT
maybe for freeing Coyote's son, Annie gets some sort of boon / wish? (T_T good things can still happen to Annie sometimes) Maybe it's time Coyote overruns the Court..... At least another "firendly" visit to tell them he is in command now. Anyway, Coyote fun times (^_^) Green Dude lived and died before Coyote came to the forest; I doubt he was ever much of a concern to him, or that he can be called his son even metaphorically. Also, does anyone know what bone is that? It's a femur. And really? I thought that Coyote was always just kind of... around? (I think it might be about time to reread the comic. I tend to lose a lot of tiny details in works that aren't my own.) Well, Coyote created the chasm..... But indeed, I doubt the green guy is Coyote's son. Whatever, could somebody now PLEASE tell me what the FOX says? Ahee ahee ahee!!! ...It's time to invade the court? Yes, indeed! ...... missed the "what kind of bone is that" on my quotes... Anyway, it looks like an invented bone. Should be like a shoulderblade glued to a humerus for a canine..... but searching for coyote bones, none look like that. That's certainly NOT a human bone. |
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Post by westwindreborn on Mar 21, 2017 11:14:35 GMT
Renard answers ths question in one of extra pages at the end of a chapter. I'm glad someone found it, i didnt have time to as my break was up. |
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Post by jabbie on Mar 21, 2017 16:51:30 GMT
I'm a medical/scientific artist, but mostly I just love anatomy I'm certainly not an expert, more like an enthused amateur... ... but I'm gunna double down on "bird bone" of one type or another, just for the sake of expressing a Strong Opinion on the Internet. What do you think of crater's idea above that it is a sideways wishbone (bird clavicle, I guess? Good question, I missed that comment (sorry to leave you out crater)! It certainly could be one half of a wishbone.... I dismissed the idea since I looked into different furcula ("furculum" is apparently what a wishbone is called) shapes, and they're pretty much all curved, and also don't have such a distinct shape on the proximal end (ends in a cup or tapered shape). A humerus has several different bumpy protrusions on its distal head which are either articulation points or ligament/tendon attachments. You can see them marked in this image, which is another bird example: |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Mar 21, 2017 17:24:08 GMT
What do you think of crater's idea above that it is a sideways wishbone (bird clavicle, I guess? Good question, I missed that comment (sorry to leave you out crater)! It certainly could be one half of a wishbone.... I dismissed the idea since I looked into different furcula ("furculum" is apparently what a wishbone is called) shapes, and they're pretty much all curved, and also don't have such a distinct shape on the proximal end (ends in a cup or tapered shape). A humerus has several different bumpy protrusions on its distal head which are either articulation points or ligament/tendon attachments. You can see them marked in this image, which is another bird example:<snip> That looks like an excellent candidate for what kind of bone we're seeing |
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Post by Saliant on Mar 21, 2017 19:04:20 GMT
Heyyyy, fellow med student! Just based on who the chapter title mentions, my guess is that it's a coyote bone. I actually de-lurked and signed up for a forum account (after 5+ years of following) just to join this discussion because I love bones so much. I agree its definitely not a human bone. My guess was originally that it was a bird humerus, based on the blade-like proximal head and how long and skinny it is. It could be a poorly interpreted femur, but pretty much every vertebrate (with femurs) has a well-defined femoral head, and the fact that tom usually tries harder than that makes me think thats not it... Other possibilities are that its a coyote tibia (or other animal) - since the tibial tuberosity does create a blade-like shape in a lateral view on a lot of quadrupeds. My most far-fetched guess was that its the pubis of a "lizard hipped" dinosaur but uh.... that ones a little out there... Yeah thats all I got. I suppose the confusion could be understandable, as both the femur and the humerus look SIMILAR, but not exact: Humerus: chandlerphysicaltherapy.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Humerus.jpgFemur: i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s523/sarahlynn244/FEMUR_zps0ed60b11.jpgI don't know anything about animal bones, though. I generally have to look a lot of that up and I wouldn't know where to start! You seem to have a pretty good little list here, though. The mystery deepens. Edit: I always forget to go to the next page because I'm not used to having the buttons at the top! Ah poo. |
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Post by csj on Mar 22, 2017 5:27:40 GMT
The ruminating is humerus, even if the bone isn't.
It doesn't belong to a coyote; tapering is too extreme - though that is quite clearly a bit of artistic license. Those talking about birds are probably close to the money if taking the image as it appears.
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Post by Corvo on Mar 22, 2017 5:46:15 GMT
It's not a bone, it's clearly a tree. A mighty tree.
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Post by themarvelgirl on Mar 22, 2017 6:26:03 GMT
Wild speculation for fun: I think Coyote wants to "die" (not sure if a being like Coyote, who "swims in the ether", can die as I understand it) and that Coyote's Tooth is the means to that end. gunnerkrigg.com/?p=484gunnerkrigg.com/?p=686 |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Mar 22, 2017 17:29:27 GMT
Wild speculation for fun: I think Coyote wants to "die" (not sure if a being like Coyote, who "swims in the ether", can die as I understand it) and that Coyote's Tooth is the means to that end. though of course it would be a great loss to the world, yes yes! But why would I want to? The watery, eternally dark underworld is no place for a trickster like Me. The Creator oversees the houses of rest there, and We, um...don't get along. |
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Post by Runningflame on Mar 23, 2017 2:38:38 GMT
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Post by themarvelgirl on Jul 28, 2018 18:15:13 GMT
Wild speculation for fun: I think Coyote wants to "die" (not sure if a being like Coyote, who "swims in the ether", can die as I understand it) and that Coyote's Tooth is the means to that end. though of course it would be a great loss to the world, yes yes! But why would I want to? The watery, eternally dark underworld is no place for a trickster like Me. The Creator oversees the houses of rest there, and We, um...don't get along. It turns out that you did want to die after all, Lord Coyote, though my guess about the tooth was wrong. Now I'm extra curious about the Tooth's potential usefulness in all this. |
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