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Post by saardvark on Jan 6, 2017 14:16:19 GMT
Tom put a link to where we last saw it in the descrip. She lost it in the water the first time she went down there. How the hell did he even get it, though? He was caged in an etheric prison. This is insane and only makes me even more confused. maybe he picked it up on his way out of the river(?) He might have noticed it earlier, maybe even saw Annie lose it, but couldn't do anything about it due to his being indisposed.... edit: oops, I see gpvos already suggested this....
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Post by saardvark on Jan 6, 2017 14:21:21 GMT
So if the pin clip sank by unlikely chance into the hand of the skeleton, or was somehow drawn to it, maybe that's what gave Jeanne the impetus to visit the other shore and give Annie the scar? She's been reacting pretty strongly whenever something happened down by the skeleton. "You littered on my Green-guy with your silly hair clip... I cut your face, careless child!" Pretty harsh, Jeanne....
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Post by saardvark on Jan 6, 2017 14:22:55 GMT
The Drama! The Suspense! The Tragic Romance! The Smitts! haha! and don't forget "... the Hair Clip!"
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Post by goldenknots on Jan 6, 2017 14:23:46 GMT
The green guy's skeleton wasn't in the locked thing, it was just lying on the bottom. The hair clip probably just "luckily" fell into his hand. The symbolism of the clenched fist in the lock-chamber was just that he had something important to give.
Why is it important, though? I'm sure Tom will reveal that in the fullness of time. :)
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Post by saardvark on Jan 6, 2017 14:32:06 GMT
Am I imagining things or does it look like Smitty has a protuberance around where the knife stabbed him? It does look a bit like that. With his luck, he probably had The History of Gunnerkrigg Court (Paperback) in his front pocket. I would rather have hoped it was the hardcover edition... VERY hard cover, like solid Uranium
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jan 6, 2017 14:43:22 GMT
It does look a bit like that. With his luck, he probably had The History of Gunnerkrigg Court (Paperback) in his front pocket. I would rather have hoped it was the hardcover edition... VERY hard cover, like solid Uranium Ah yes, the Uranium close to the heart, it's also what gave Marie Curie a nice and long life! Oh, wait, no, that's what probably gave her leukemia. Though it would explain his...radiation
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Post by saardvark on Jan 6, 2017 15:00:31 GMT
I would rather have hoped it was the hardcover edition... VERY hard cover, like solid Uranium Ah yes, the Uranium close to the heart, it's also what gave Marie Curie a nice and long life! Oh, wait, no, that's what probably gave her leukemia. Though it would explain his...radiation rats, I should have specified Uranium 238; that isotope isn't so bad, radiation-wise. Marie C was more likely laid low by the two elements she discovered, Radium and Polonium. Uranium is bad (mostly U 235) but those are really NASTY radioactive; I think the KGB recently (few years ago) used Polonium to kill an expat who had been badmouthing Putin.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jan 6, 2017 15:22:06 GMT
Ah yes, the Uranium close to the heart, it's also what gave Marie Curie a nice and long life! Oh, wait, no, that's what probably gave her leukemia. Though it would explain his...radiation rats, I should have specified Uranium 238; that isotope isn't so bad, radiation-wise. Marie C was more likely laid low by the two elements she discovered, Radium and Polonium. Uranium is bad (mostly U 235) but those are really NASTY radioactive; I think the KGB recently (few years ago) used Polonium to kill an expat who had been badmouthing Putin. Litvinenko is the man you're thinking of. So let's hope neither the arrow, nor Jeanne were polonium-infused!
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Post by ctso74 on Jan 6, 2017 15:25:37 GMT
Maybe after the arrow hit, in an etheric way, he was the river. It might explain Jeanne protecting it so harshly. It would also explain the clip being in his etheric hand, because it fell into the river.
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Post by autumnrook on Jan 6, 2017 15:26:22 GMT
Due to Smitty's unique powers, I'm betting that the knife just barely managed to miss every vital organ and he'll be fine with a bit of medical care.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Jan 6, 2017 15:39:34 GMT
"GLADYOUGOTYOURHAIRCLIPBACKHEYCOULDSOMEONEGETTHISTHINGOUTOFMYLUNG?"
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Post by captainvigilare on Jan 6, 2017 16:01:12 GMT
Honestly, for a ruthless rage ghost Jeanne is acting kinda low-key right now. I mean, Parley has given up trying to fight her, but Jeanne is just standing there not doing anything. This doesn't seem to be the same person (er, rage ghost) who killed several pyschopomps just for being there. Ever since she stabbed Smitty she has had a look of vague concern on her face instead of her characteristic rage. Has she realized that they are there to help and is starting to become less ragey? Hopefully Anne can take them into the ether soon so that Parley can get Smitty some medical care!
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Post by Trillium on Jan 6, 2017 16:31:16 GMT
Honestly, for a ruthless rage ghost Jeanne is acting kinda low-key right now. I mean, Parley has given up trying to fight her, but Jeanne is just standing there not doing anything. This doesn't seem to be the same person (er, rage ghost) who killed several pyschopomps just for being there. Ever since she stabbed Smitty she has had a look of vague concern on her face instead of her characteristic rage. Has she realized that they are there to help and is starting to become less ragey? Hopefully Anne can take them into the ether soon so that Parley can get Smitty some medical care! I believe at the moment she only has eyes for her lover who is coming towards her. It is interesting that the psychopoms never said anything about Jeanne's elven lover. They had to know he was in the river.
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Post by dawolf on Jan 6, 2017 16:32:57 GMT
They've handled a lot of things strangely in my view. When Parley and Jeanne were in the elven dream state, Robot didn't need to be there yet gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1716They haven't tried speaking to Jeanne properly once, to explain they are trying to release her lover. When Parley knocked out Jeanne temporarily, she dropped her sword. Parley could have grabbed it and teleported it a long way away. Instead they fight....and risk death.
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Post by Runningflame on Jan 6, 2017 16:54:27 GMT
I believe at the moment she only has eyes for her lover who is coming towards her. It is interesting that the psychopoms never said anything about Jeanne's elven lover. They had to know he was in the river. They may not have known about him... if he wasn't actually dead. Which, given how solid he's becoming each second, is a distinct possibility. (What the definition of "not actually dead" is that allows your entire body to rot away and then regenerate itself automagically, I'm not sure.)
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 6, 2017 17:27:08 GMT
Maybe after the arrow hit, in an etheric way, he was the river. It might explain Jeanne protecting it so harshly. It would also explain the clip being in his etheric hand, because it fell into the river. Maybe the skeleton is less immobile than the early part of the chapter would suggest. I believe at the moment she only has eyes for her lover who is coming towards her. It is interesting that the psychopoms never said anything about Jeanne's elven lover. They had to know he was in the river. They may not have known about him... if he wasn't actually dead. Which, given how solid he's becoming each second, is a distinct possibility. (What the definition of "not actually dead" is that allows your entire body to rot away and then regenerate itself automagically, I'm not sure.) He wasn't retrievable, for sure. I figure the bit the 'Pomps are interested in was stuck in the arrow. Dying that way (or becoming undead) may not have needed/summoned a 'Pomp. But his appearance regenerating is probably the result of Jeanne looking at him.
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Post by kiapet on Jan 6, 2017 17:38:58 GMT
I got the impression from the angles that Jeanne was looking down at Parley and Andrew, and realizing that she just returned the favor of bringing her lover back to her by inflicting the same pain on Parley.
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Post by saardvark on Jan 6, 2017 17:41:02 GMT
rats, I should have specified Uranium 238; that isotope isn't so bad, radiation-wise. Marie C was more likely laid low by the two elements she discovered, Radium and Polonium. Uranium is bad (mostly U 235) but those are really NASTY radioactive; I think the KGB recently (few years ago) used Polonium to kill an expat who had been badmouthing Putin. Litvinenko is the man you're thinking of. So let's hope neither the arrow, nor Jeanne were polonium-infused! yup, that's the one, thanks. saw a picture of him when he was in the hospital the other day; man, what an awful way to go....
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Post by atteSmythe on Jan 6, 2017 18:16:10 GMT
Man, I'm glad we finally solved that mystery! So all that time he was chasing Annie in the maze, he was probably just trying to return her hair clip. It kind of seems rude of her to run away now.
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Post by warrl on Jan 6, 2017 18:55:55 GMT
I would rather have hoped it was the hardcover edition... VERY hard cover, like solid Uranium Ah yes, the Uranium close to the heart, it's also what gave Marie Curie a nice and long life! Oh, wait, no, that's what probably gave her leukemia. Though it would explain his...radiation Marie Curie died of aplastic anemia, not leukemia. Her daughter Irène Joliot-Curie, though, died of leukemia. (After herself winning a Nobel Prize in Chemistry, to go with her mother's two Nobels - one in Chemistry and one in Physics.) One must be careful about placing blame for death in those days, though. Neither medicine nor sanitation were necessarily within a long stone's-throw of what we expect today. I read once that at an early uranium mine in southeastern Europe, the miners and their immediate families tended to die of lung cancer at age 70... whereas other people in the same town tended to die of injuries and infectious diseases at age 50.
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Post by darlos9d on Jan 6, 2017 19:16:05 GMT
I'm finding it almost comedic how Smitty is just kinda suffering from a knife to the chest as a second though to the narrative. It gives me hope that we aren't going to turn around from this mushy "hey thanks for my old trinket" moment to some kind of dire character death scene. I'd find that a bit of a bizarre whiplash.
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Post by atteSmythe on Jan 6, 2017 19:34:20 GMT
Oh obviously you can't cut right to that! We have to have the touching reunion between Jeanne and That Guy and take both their souls to the ether. Then Smitty can die on the bonus page.
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Post by Per on Jan 6, 2017 19:51:41 GMT
On the bonus page, Kat will go, "Oh! What about that other guy, Smitty?" And Annie will look nonplussed for a second before going, "Oh, we forgot his body down there. Maybe we should go back for it at some point."
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Post by atteSmythe on Jan 6, 2017 20:00:58 GMT
On the bonus page, Kat will go, "Oh! What about that other guy, Smitty?" And Annie will look nonplussed for a second before going, "Oh, we forgot his body down there. Maybe we should go back for it at some point." Andrew, the plan, everything, will be stricken from all records. We will bury what was done here this day.
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Post by Eversist on Jan 6, 2017 20:49:35 GMT
Went to look back through the chapter a bit, at first I thought maybe he had the hare's rubix cube, but that was noticeable and a part of the story. Then I realized it just said Story and not chapter, so probably was the hair clip... Very good catch! What makes you guys think that that's just not an off-hand joke about that concept in general (unimportant things becoming important later on as a foreshadowing/story device)? It was a super short chapter, so I took it to mean that Tea was "taken by surprise" with the reader being there already. I believe at the moment she only has eyes for her lover who is coming towards her. It is interesting that the psychopoms never said anything about Jeanne's elven lover. They had to know he was in the river. They may not have known about him... if he wasn't actually dead. Which, given how solid he's becoming each second, is a distinct possibility. (What the definition of "not actually dead" is that allows your entire body to rot away and then regenerate itself automagically, I'm not sure.) There's also the issue with the ROTD getting all f'd up when the arrow was shot (of course, related); probably part of the reason he wasn't retrieved or noticed. Also yeah, maybe he wasn't all-the-way-dead. Hah.
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Post by mu695 on Jan 6, 2017 21:04:33 GMT
I'm not the only one noticing something up with Parley's eyes in the last panel, right?
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Post by Eversist on Jan 6, 2017 21:07:00 GMT
I'm not the only one noticing something up with Parley's eyes in the last panel, right? What exactly? Her eyes have been fear-pin-pricks for the past couple of pages.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Jan 6, 2017 22:34:41 GMT
They've handled a lot of things strangely in my view. When Parley and Jeanne were in the elven dream state, Robot didn't need to be there yet gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1716They haven't tried speaking to Jeanne properly once, to explain they are trying to release her lover. When Parley knocked out Jeanne temporarily, she dropped her sword. Parley could have grabbed it and teleported it a long way away. Instead they fight....and risk death. I imagine that Robot was supposed to be kind waiting off to the side as back-up in case things start going bad, or that he wasn't supposed to be there at all. In the former case, his coming close by with sword in hand sure caused things to get royally screwed. If he hadn't come forward and started attacking Jeanne, they might have been able to calm her down. In the latter case... Kat is probably gonna be mad at him and that may open up story concerning the Kult of Kat. And I don't think speaking to Jeanne would have helped. She's seen Annie and Parley before. She wanted to kill Parley and tried to kill Annie. A ghost that kills psychopomps and other creatures with terrifying speed... isn't something you go down and just talk to. I think their distraction plan might have been the best option and we are regretting it falling apart. And I don't think you can just take a ghost's sword away. We've been shown a skeleton of Jeanne holding onto a sword. Although the weapons she carries can do physical damage, I don't think they are strictly physical per se.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jan 6, 2017 22:45:37 GMT
Five bucks it's his blinker stone SURE GLAD NOBODY TOOK ME UP ON THAT! I need this five bucks. I think we keep collectively forgetting this isn't the kind of comic where ancient undead elves give powerful magic boons to the hero, it's a comic where a girl loses her hair clip and a zombie spends 50+ chapters trying to get it back to her.
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Post by birdwhisperer on Jan 7, 2017 1:45:17 GMT
Am I imagining things or does it look like Smitty has a protuberance around where the knife stabbed him? Earlier that morning he decided to start reading War and Peace but had to leave quickly so he shoved it into his hoodie. Lucky!
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