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Post by fish on Aug 5, 2016 7:06:13 GMT
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Post by arf on Aug 5, 2016 7:15:32 GMT
Who ya gonna call?
Jeanne busters!
(Not a good time to answer "no", Kat)
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Post by Gulby on Aug 5, 2016 7:19:11 GMT
There's no link to the actual page. And... wow. What on earth is this new contraption ?! Antigrav was made of a thermos, so I assume Kat can do anything, but that's the thing : I just can't imagine what !
Some sort of emitting device ? A metal detector (to find the arrow, assuming of course that it's made of metal) ? An etheric prison cell maker ?
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Post by fish on Aug 5, 2016 7:31:14 GMT
There's no link to the actual page. And... wow. What on earth is this new contraption ?! Antigrav was made of a thermos, so I assume Kat can do anything, but that's the thing : I just can't imagine what ! Some sort of emitting device ? A metal detector (to find the arrow, assuming of course that it's made of metal) ? An etheric prison cell maker ? Ah, thanks for the hint!
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 5, 2016 8:24:29 GMT
Why are the people so faint in panel 4? It looks like Smitty is confronting Parley about something, their friends a distant memory.
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 5, 2016 8:42:00 GMT
I like how Kat just gives Smitty a look in the last panel.
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Post by Gulby on Aug 5, 2016 8:43:53 GMT
I just read the previous page topic and it occured to me that it will probably happen as follow :
They keep Jeanne distracted (maybe they'll try to release the anger that way, too ? Like a therapy ?). Kat and Annie navigate in the middle of the water to try to get the arrow for further analysis/dismantling/releasing of the kraken/other. By doing that, they succeed to free the souls of green elf and Jeanne, reunited in death, in love more than ever. In the process, Blue gets a name, Annie gets a new scar, everyone end up in tears, Andrew gets angry at the Court and will try his best to make Janet's father face the Court's responsibility
Far fetched, but plausible.
Édit : or the machine won't work and end of the chapter. Nice walk with Jeanne.
I just want to add that I don't know why people are assuming they are on the Forest side ? Jeanne is on the Court side, right ?
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 5, 2016 10:25:58 GMT
Why are the people so faint in panel 4? It looks like Smitty is confronting Parley about something, their friends a distant memory. It's the Smitty Vision version.
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Post by aithecomputerguy on Aug 5, 2016 10:51:49 GMT
I just want to add that I don't know Why people are assuming they are on the Forest side ? Jeanne is on the Court side, right ? Yes. When Annie fell off the bridge, she fell on the opposite side of the river from Jeanne. She also "planted" the tic-toc, which caused the whole ordeal with the forest in Chapter 14. Therefore, Annie fell on the forest side, and the opposite side of the forest is the court. Q.E.D. Jeanne is on the Court side of the ravine.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 5, 2016 11:08:48 GMT
Why are the people so faint in panel 4? It looks like Smitty is confronting Parley about something, their friends a distant memory. I believe it just represents the background and it is an artist's trick to make the viewer focused on the subject(s) of the panel. If everything was drawn with the same level of detail, then the panel would be too busy, have no sense of depth, and it would take longer to draw. If the other characters weren't included at all, readers would be wondering if they disappeared and where they went. With all that said, I can't explain why Red and Blue are drawn in detail in the last panel. Annie is probably drawn in detail because she is in the foreground. I admit that I also admit that I am distracted by Annie's pose, what is she sitting on?
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Post by Gulby on Aug 5, 2016 12:28:55 GMT
I admit that I also admit that I am distracted by Annie's pose, what is she sitting on? She's wearing a skirt or a dress, and is sitting on one of the boat's benches. My guess.
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Post by aithecomputerguy on Aug 5, 2016 13:48:25 GMT
I admit that I also admit that I am distracted by Annie's pose, what is she sitting on? It's definitely the boat. Notice how there's a section of water below them that is a slightly greener color. That's not water, just a poor choice for colors.
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 5, 2016 14:00:20 GMT
I'm guessing a scanning device. I'm thinking they have to find it first. If Kat's intent was to merely to get the arrow, I'd imagine her first thought would be to just send a robot to get it. Being etheric, would Jeanne pay much attention to robots, or considering her history with Diego, would it be more hostile?
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Post by Gulby on Aug 5, 2016 14:14:27 GMT
I'm wondering wether Coyote's training to move things in reality through ether will be of any use now or not. Like, may Annie try to dive into the waters to get the arrow ?... Etherically so she can't (presumably, and I hope so) drawn herself ?...
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Post by jda on Aug 5, 2016 15:47:07 GMT
I'm wondering wether Coyote's training to move things in reality through ether will be of any use now or not. Like, may Annie try to dive into the waters to get the arrow ?... Etherically so she can't (presumably, and I hope so) drawn herself ?... Well, I also hope she would'nt drOwn herself, but it would be interesting to see a selfportrait of Annie any time.
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Post by Earin on Aug 5, 2016 16:00:10 GMT
Oh my god, Smitty, you can't just ask someone whether their machine works!
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 5, 2016 16:41:07 GMT
Oh my god, Smitty, you can't just ask someone whether their machine works! I am glad someone else was the first one to make a Hitachi-esque reference instead of me.
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Post by keef on Aug 5, 2016 20:32:26 GMT
Kat and Annie navigate in the middle of the water to try to get the arrow for further analysis/dismantling/releasing of the kraken/other. I'm wondering wether Coyote's training to move things in reality through ether will be of any use now or not Either Annie picks it up etherically, or she guides some Kat made device to it, to lift it or destroy it. Complication could be that she has to leave the "illusion" and leave Red and Violet behind... I'm guessing a scanning device. It's a green-arrow-find-o-mat.Send a robot, instead of risking your life and that of your friends? That would be boring. This would be the last thing that robot would see. Whatever, I sincerely hope we don't get three pages of Kat and Andrew explaining the plan for the benefit of the readers, instead of executing it.
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Post by warrl on Aug 5, 2016 20:38:35 GMT
Being etheric, would Jeanne pay much attention to robots, or considering her history with Diego, would it be more hostile? Well, previously they sent down a few hoverbots with cameras, and the things got sliced in two. Which presumably significantly disrupted their operation. So if Jeanne is not caught up in an illusion, a retrieval bot would probably suffer a similar fate. And we don't know how far out into the river Jeanne normally considers her jurisdiction. She crossed the river to accost Annie on the Forest side, but there are suggestions that this is not her normal behavior - and she didn't bother Ysengrin or the two fairies.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 5, 2016 22:10:24 GMT
Being etheric, would Jeanne pay much attention to robots, or considering her history with Diego, would it be more hostile? Well, previously they sent down a few hoverbots with cameras, and the things got sliced in two. Which presumably significantly disrupted their operation. So if Jeanne is not caught up in an illusion, a retrieval bot would probably suffer a similar fate. And we don't know how far out into the river Jeanne normally considers her jurisdiction. She crossed the river to accost Annie on the Forest side, but there are suggestions that this is not her normal behavior - and she didn't bother Ysengrin or the two fairies. I would like to learn more about Jeanne's behavior when Annie first encountered her. Until then I am going to believe that Jeanne was attracted to Annie (also describe by Mort) and the cut was Jeanne's cry for help (she could have done worse than a cut). Jeanne also could have killed both Parley and Annie in the second encounter, but Jeanne choose to communicate with them. Now that I think about it I would bet that Jeanne killed the other pychopomps because they were trying to take her instead of help her boyfriend.
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Post by kriskingle on Aug 6, 2016 4:33:03 GMT
Well, previously they sent down a few hoverbots with cameras, and the things got sliced in two. Which presumably significantly disrupted their operation. So if Jeanne is not caught up in an illusion, a retrieval bot would probably suffer a similar fate. And we don't know how far out into the river Jeanne normally considers her jurisdiction. She crossed the river to accost Annie on the Forest side, but there are suggestions that this is not her normal behavior - and she didn't bother Ysengrin or the two fairies. I would like to learn more about Jeanne's behavior when Annie first encountered her. Until then I am going to believe that Jeanne was attracted to Annie (also describe by Mort) and the cut was Jeanne's cry for help (she could have done worse than a cut). Jeanne also could have killed both Parley and Annie in the second encounter, but Jeanne choose to communicate with them. Now that I think about it I would bet that Jeanne killed the other pychopomps because they were trying to take her instead of help her boyfriend. Are Annie and the crew planning on helping the boyfriend? I always thought that they were just going to take her to the ether/free her (I could totally be forgetting some part though).
Also, do you guys think that anybody else knows about this attempt (Coyote, Ysengrin, Jones, etc...)? They would probably try to keep the whole thing under wraps, but the court may have surveillance on them and Coyote could probably find out if he really wanted to.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 6, 2016 12:24:59 GMT
I would like to learn more about Jeanne's behavior when Annie first encountered her. Until then I am going to believe that Jeanne was attracted to Annie (also describe by Mort) and the cut was Jeanne's cry for help (she could have done worse than a cut). Jeanne also could have killed both Parley and Annie in the second encounter, but Jeanne choose to communicate with them. Now that I think about it I would bet that Jeanne killed the other pychopomps because they were trying to take her instead of help her boyfriend. Are Annie and the crew planning on helping the boyfriend? I always thought that they were just going to take her to the ether/free her (I could totally be forgetting some part though).
Also, do you guys think that anybody else knows about this attempt (Coyote, Ysengrin, Jones, etc...)? They would probably try to keep the whole thing under wraps, but the court may have surveillance on them and Coyote could probably find out if he really wanted to. They figured out that the green arrow was the key to the Court's nefarious plan and they know they need to disable it. Whether they think of that in terms of helping her boyfriend remains to be seen, but it isn't much of a leap and it is in their character. There has been much speculation that Coyote must know about Jeanne and could be hoping Annie will get rid of her. Annie and the gang have not been very careful about hiding their discussions. It is hard to believe that the Court hasn't had Annie under surveillance and the Court should have picked on some of the gang's plan. Whether the Court believed any of it is another matter.
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Post by stef1987 on Aug 6, 2016 13:08:32 GMT
Where's Renard?
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Post by saardvark on Aug 6, 2016 14:25:48 GMT
I like Jelly-jellybeans the idea that Jeanne has rejected the psychopomps help because she would be parted from her boyfriend... and add - because *he* had not passed on yet either, due to the complex effects of Diego's nasty arrow device. It has already been noted by faux-vampire-dood that the green arrow made a huge mess in the ROTD... maybe the pomps don't actually know that there are *two* lost souls down there. If Kat can remove the arrow, perhaps her green boyfriend can pass on properly and that would calm Jeanne as well and make her more amenable to passing on as well (and stay with her "rescued" lover).
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Post by csj on Aug 6, 2016 21:49:13 GMT
gunnerkrigg is my favourite ghostbusters remake
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Post by todd on Aug 7, 2016 0:07:35 GMT
I like Jelly-jellybeans the idea that Jeanne has rejected the psychopomps help because she would be parted from her boyfriend... and add - because *he* had not passed on yet either, due to the complex effects of Diego's nasty arrow device. It has already been noted by faux-vampire-dood that the green arrow made a huge mess in the ROTD... maybe the pomps don't actually know that there are *two* lost souls down there. If Kat can remove the arrow, perhaps her green boyfriend can pass on properly and that would calm Jeanne as well and make her more amenable to passing on as well (and stay with her "rescued" lover). If it's two people trapped by that arrow, that makes the success of Annie and her friends' mission all the more important - and makes what the Court did all the more unnatural and wrong.
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Post by kriskingle on Aug 7, 2016 4:33:42 GMT
I like Jelly-jellybeans the idea that Jeanne has rejected the psychopomps help because she would be parted from her boyfriend... and add - because *he* had not passed on yet either, due to the complex effects of Diego's nasty arrow device. It has already been noted by faux-vampire-dood that the green arrow made a huge mess in the ROTD... maybe the pomps don't actually know that there are *two* lost souls down there. If Kat can remove the arrow, perhaps her green boyfriend can pass on properly and that would calm Jeanne as well and make her more amenable to passing on as well (and stay with her "rescued" lover). If it's two people trapped by that arrow, that makes the success of Annie and her friends' mission all the more important - and makes what the Court did all the more unnatural and wrong. I do wonder though, if Jeanne's lover is also trapped down there as well, why hasn't he made an appearance yet?
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Post by Pig_catapult on Aug 7, 2016 8:37:13 GMT
If it's two people trapped by that arrow, that makes the success of Annie and her friends' mission all the more important - and makes what the Court did all the more unnatural and wrong. I do wonder though, if Jeanne's lover is also trapped down there as well, why hasn't he made an appearance yet? Because he's at the bottom of the river
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 7, 2016 13:36:43 GMT
I do wonder though, if Jeanne's lover is also trapped down there as well, why hasn't he made an appearance yet? Because he's at the bottom of the river And he took an arrow to the knee. Okay, he was swimming, so it is more likely the arrow hit him in the back, but until we know...
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Post by Pig_catapult on Aug 10, 2016 7:43:01 GMT
Because he's at the bottom of the river And he took an arrow to the knee. Okay, he was swimming, so it is more likely the arrow hit him in the back, but until we know... I believe that he was specifically struck through the heart, but I have not double-checked this.
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