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Post by Zox Tomana on Jul 25, 2016 20:36:39 GMT
Although we've seen Blue and some of the other Foley students manipulate what ohers perceive in the ether, I find it hard to believe that Annie would expose the young Foley students to something as dangerous as Jeanne. Annie was recently concerned about the Court exploiting the Foley students. So Annie decdes to use them to deal with a rage ghost that nearly claimed her the last time they met? That's pretty cold even for a Carver. If the Foley students are helping, then there's a lot of explaining that we have yet to see. Depends on the risk they'd be exposed to, I guess. If Jeanne becomes wise to their plot, she will go after Parley first: Parley being closest, and likely to begin resisting her. The fairies would have ample time to Ether away. Based on this idea, though, we can make a hypothetical plot line for the pages we've seen thus far: Page 1 is Jeaane on guard and the beginning of the illusion brought about by the former fairies. Page 2 is her beginning to take part in it and be immersed into it. Page 3 brings in our first actor: one of the modern day protagonists necessary to carrying out the plan. They couldn't populate the whole world with imaginary people, or it would be instantly recognized as fake. Thus: Parley (as the strongest and most able to defend herself) is given the most dangerous task of interacting with Jeanne. Page 4 allows us to see this possibility and shows Annie waiting in the wings, ready to take Jeanne into the Ether, meanwhile she watches over the two fairies they've gotten to help them. But, knowing Tom, this will get turned on its head in the next few pages. |
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Post by rafk on Jul 25, 2016 22:00:10 GMT
I am amused that some people have said we are now "clearly" in a particular scenario. I don't think anything about this can be said to be clear yet.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 25, 2016 22:35:20 GMT
... I don't think anything about this can be said to be clear yet. That is clearly true.  |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 26, 2016 2:34:02 GMT
Well, that answers that.
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Post by CarbonRabbit on Jul 26, 2016 3:37:50 GMT
I'm late to the game, but I'm gonna say that that's Red and the blue one, partly because of the hair shape/color, but also because those two were WITH Annie when she FIRST met Jeanne. To me, it makes sense they'd be involved somehow. Also, if at that distance we can see the color of their clothes, then it's interesting to me that Annie's has color, but the two with her don't. This coincides with when they're in the ether, the fairies have bright hair color but their clothes are dull grey.
Eh, just my thinking.
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Post by Eversist on Jul 26, 2016 17:22:36 GMT
I'm late to the game, but I'm gonna say that that's Red and the blue one, partly because of the hair shape/color, but also because those two were WITH Annie when she FIRST met Jeanne. To me, it makes sense they'd be involved somehow. Also, if at that distance we can see the color of their clothes, then it's interesting to me that Annie's has color, but the two with her don't. This coincides with when they're in the ether, the fairies have bright hair color but their clothes are dull grey. Eh, just my thinking. I agree; said something similar in my post. I was mostly of the mind that maybe it wasn't the fairies until I noticed the grey clothes. You make a great point that they were there when Annie first encountered Jeanne. |
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Post by fish on Jul 26, 2016 18:11:27 GMT
I'm late to the game, but I'm gonna say that that's Red and the blue one, partly because of the hair shape/color, but also because those two were WITH Annie when she FIRST met Jeanne. To me, it makes sense they'd be involved somehow. Also, if at that distance we can see the color of their clothes, then it's interesting to me that Annie's has color, but the two with her don't. This coincides with when they're in the ether, the fairies have bright hair color but their clothes are dull grey. Eh, just my thinking. I agree; said something similar in my post. I was mostly of the mind that maybe it wasn't the fairies until I noticed the grey clothes. You make a great point that they were there when Annie first encountered Jeanne. About the greyness of the clothing: Everybody's clothes appear grey in Annie's ether vision, even Annie's. So the colour in this scene suggests this is not the "raw" ether we usually see, but an elaborate illusion created by the fairies. We might just be to far away to see their clothes properly (like the dudes in the first panel); their hair colours and Annie's dress just being necessary hints to their identities. We've seen colourful ether scenes before: in the Realm of the Dead, where everything was a colourful etheric illusion, or with the wisp's trickery, where everything was colourful until it's illusion fell apart at this point (with Coyote's help, I think). Althoug the visibility of Annie's scar here is a bit of a hiccup in my hypothesis (it's not there it tRotD, or in the wisp's illusion while it was lasting). Unless of course she chose to show it to the one who caused it. However, maybe the fairies are just not allowed to make their own clothes appear colourful, even in illusions? Their rules are weird like that. Now that I think about it, it looks as if Red is still wearing her school uniform. I thought she was allowed her own clothes by now. Hmmm... I love to speculate about the possible rules behind Tom's choice of visuals, though I always worry any apparent consistency might be misleading and there are actually no hard-set rules to the ether stuff. Oh well! |
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Post by Eversist on Jul 26, 2016 20:54:02 GMT
I agree; said something similar in my post. I was mostly of the mind that maybe it wasn't the fairies until I noticed the grey clothes. You make a great point that they were there when Annie first encountered Jeanne. About the greyness of the clothing: Everybody's clothes appear grey in Annie's ether vision, even Annie's. That's a great point. Everyone else who is a background character in this chapter has "background peachy color" clothes. I still feel specifically the grey is of note, in conjunction with the two hair colors of who are potentially Red and Blue. But who knows! |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 26, 2016 22:19:27 GMT
I agree; said something similar in my post. I was mostly of the mind that maybe it wasn't the fairies until I noticed the grey clothes. You make a great point that they were there when Annie first encountered Jeanne. About the greyness of the clothing: Everybody's clothes appear grey in Annie's ether vision, even Annie's. So the colour in this scene suggests this is not the "raw" ether we usually see, but an elaborate illusion created by the fairies. We might just be to far away to see their clothes properly (like the dudes in the first panel); their hair colours and Annie's dress just being necessary hints to their identities. We've seen colourful ether scenes before: in the Realm of the Dead, where everything was a colourful etheric illusion, or with the wisp's trickery, where everything was colourful until it's illusion fell apart at this point (with Coyote's help, I think). Althoug the visibility of Annie's scar here is a bit of a hiccup in my hypothesis (it's not there it tRotD, or in the wisp's illusion while it was lasting). Unless of course she chose to show it to the one who caused it. ... when viewed in the ether while everyone else's is grey. One difference is that Bugsy owns her cloths and the Foley students do not, but Annie's clothing was grey in the ether too so there is more to it than just ownership. My guess is Bugsy made her cloths and imbued them with some ethereal quality. I agree that the rules of whatever is happening appears more like ROTD trickery. EDIT: Looking back at the Gol-Shogeg pages reminded me that Blue didn't just make everyone see the Gol-Shogeg. Blue made Annie know all about the Gol-Shogeg. Blue could make someone (Jeanne) know someone else (Parley) and make her think they are close friends. |
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Post by erneely on Jul 27, 2016 4:34:58 GMT
All of these theories are good, but I'm confused by the fact that Parley doesn't have her big muscles. Maybe an ether distortion to make her fit better into Jeanne's world?
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Post by CarbonRabbit on Jul 27, 2016 5:31:13 GMT
I agree; said something similar in my post. I was mostly of the mind that maybe it wasn't the fairies until I noticed the grey clothes. You make a great point that they were there when Annie first encountered Jeanne. About the greyness of the clothing: Everybody's clothes appear grey in Annie's ether vision, even Annie's. So the colour in this scene suggests this is not the "raw" ether we usually see, but an elaborate illusion created by the fairies. We might just be to far away to see their clothes properly (like the dudes in the first panel); their hair colours and Annie's dress just being necessary hints to their identities. We've seen colourful ether scenes before: in the Realm of the Dead, where everything was a colourful etheric illusion, or with the wisp's trickery, where everything was colourful until it's illusion fell apart at this point (with Coyote's help, I think). Althoug the visibility of Annie's scar here is a bit of a hiccup in my hypothesis (it's not there it tRotD, or in the wisp's illusion while it was lasting). Unless of course she chose to show it to the one who caused it. However, maybe the fairies are just not allowed to make their own clothes appear colourful, even in illusions? Their rules are weird like that. Now that I think about it, it looks as if Red is still wearing her school uniform. I thought she was allowed her own clothes by now. Hmmm... I love to speculate about the possible rules behind Tom's choice of visuals, though I always worry any apparent consistency might be misleading and there are actually no hard-set rules to the ether stuff. Oh well!But Annie may not actually own those clothes. They are a school issued uniform. I think anyway. |
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Post by warrl on Jul 28, 2016 7:27:54 GMT
Although we've seen Blue and some of the other Foley students manipulate what others perceive in the ether, I find it hard to believe that Annie would expose the young Foley students to something as dangerous as Jeanne. Annie was recently concerned about the Court exploiting the Foley students. So Annie decides to use them to deal with a rage ghost that nearly claimed her the last time they met? That's pretty cold even for a Carver. If the Foley students are helping, then there's a lot of explaining that we have yet to see. And I think your last sentence is exactly correct: WE haven't seen it. The Court probably tells the Foley kids what to do, and maybe later gets around to explaining why. Outside of an immediate emergency situation I can't see Antimony doing that. Instead she'd tell them what's going on and ask them if they are willing to help |
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 2, 2016 16:50:22 GMT
Although we've seen Blue and some of the other Foley students manipulate what others perceive in the ether, I find it hard to believe that Annie would expose the young Foley students to something as dangerous as Jeanne. Annie was recently concerned about the Court exploiting the Foley students. So Annie decides to use them to deal with a rage ghost that nearly claimed her the last time they met? That's pretty cold even for a Carver. If the Foley students are helping, then there's a lot of explaining that we have yet to see. And I think your last sentence is exactly correct: WE haven't seen it. The Court probably tells the Foley kids what to do, and maybe later gets around to explaining why. Outside of an immediate emergency situation I can't see Antimony doing that. Instead she'd tell them what's going on and ask them if they are willing to help I very, VERY much doubt that the Court knows what Annie's up to here, considering that they wanted to rein her back in, and they don't even know much about Jeanne (possibly nothing). |
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