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Post by davidm on Jul 22, 2016 13:49:22 GMT
Jeannie, Jeannie, you're the girl for me
Oh, you don't know me, but you make me so happy
I tried to call you before, but I lost my nerve
I tried my imagination, but I was disturbed
- Holy Robot Scriptures 8675:309
Order scriptures now and we will include a graphic novel personally signed by the Prophet himself.
Jeannie is Beautiful.
(edit: fixed number, thanks for correction)
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Post by davidm on Jul 22, 2016 14:00:52 GMT
Terrible and Prejudice
Set in England in the late 18th century, Terrible and Prejudice tells the story of Mr. and Mrs. Bennet's five unmarried daughters after two robots have moved into their neighbourhood: the rich and eligible Lasercow, and his status-conscious friend, the even more rich and eligible Boxbot. While Laser takes an immediate liking to the eldest Bennet daughter, Parsley, Boxbot is disdainful of local society and repeatedly clashes with the Bennets' lively second daughter, Jeannie.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 22, 2016 14:21:56 GMT
It's 867:5309, you heretic.  |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 22, 2016 16:08:05 GMT
Since there's so much discussion, I have added a poll to tabulate people's beliefs.
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Post by cb3 on Jul 22, 2016 16:29:53 GMT
Hi all, first time poster here.
I'm joining the "Parley Ancestor" side here. For the last week I was thinking this chapter was going to be Jeanne history set in France, When I first saw this page on my phone this morning I thought the brunette was a Paz ancestor and have been trying to reconcile the drawing with Spanish architecture.
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Post by Demonsul on Jul 22, 2016 16:46:55 GMT
Tom has never drawn characters with such identical-ness before, but he has made great use of altered states of consciousness and/or reality, so that's what I'm assuming.
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Post by Aura on Jul 22, 2016 17:05:45 GMT
I'm in the "Parley ancestor" court, but I think she looks identical so it's easier for the viewer to tell who she is and not because she actually looks like that. That said, she could be someone that was similar to Parley and Jeanne is superimposing Parley's image on her because of the "gleaming heart" thing...
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Post by fish on Jul 22, 2016 17:20:24 GMT
Tom has never drawn characters with such identical-ness before, but he has made great use of altered states of consciousness and/or reality, so that's what I'm assuming. Though he also likes to switch up his story telling devices from time to time. Hmm, I'm not so she about my dream choice anymore... argh, this is where premature speculation leads you. |
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Post by birdwhisperer on Jul 22, 2016 18:18:19 GMT
Every time I expect Tom to not pull some kind of mind-flippery he does just that and I end up all mind-flipped. Anyway, I believe it's a dream, or more specifically, the dream of a memory. I think Annie is doing some mind-trickery to get into Jeanne's head and she snuck Parley in there somehow, and Jeanne is simply seeing Parley in place of a friend of hers. I wouldn't be surprised if the historical friend is similar to Parley in some way. I also had a thought about their clothes. Someone else commented that both Jeanne and Parley's hairstyles are anachronistic. I think Parley's is unusual for the time period simply because Parley wasn't actually there, this is just Parley transposed over someone else. Aside from the hair, Parley's dress fits in just fine. Jeanne's dress, however, looks a lot different. I don't know anything about the clothes of that time period, but the bare-shouldered, sleeveless look seems odd. My first thought was that Jeanne's fashion sense is inspired by the Anwyn. All the other figures shown in this chapter look to be dressed to fit in with their human society, but Jeanne looks more like she belongs to the forest. Which I think is pretty neat.  Like that. |
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Post by fish on Jul 22, 2016 18:48:34 GMT
Because your great grandma rarely looks this identical to you. ....This is the comic where a vengeful ghost guards a ravine from any of the animals, fairies, humans or gods who might try to cross, and the only kids who might be able to stop her are a half-elemental girl with pyrokinesis, a girl who can bap and a boy with all the luck in the world at his fingertips. And that's without getting into Kat, Paz and the robots. The important thing here is internal consistency. The only case of "fantasy genetics" so far is Annie and her ancestry, but this is justified because of Annie's etheric nature. Other than that we have no reason to assume that non-etheric genetics in Gunnerkrigg Court work in a fantastical manner different from the real world. Just because dragons exist in this story we shouldn't wave away questions with "it's magic, get over it". |
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Post by tiberius on Jul 22, 2016 20:59:25 GMT
I wonder if Tom's only going to show us this "dreamscape" and at the end of the chapter everything will be resolved in the real world, but we'll be left to try and parse out what happened through this lens. First thought, anyway. Not bad, I think. Very much how we saw Annie being sick and receiving help by Zimmy only to figure out why chapters later. This time, it would be on a really large scale, though. |
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Post by Gulby on Jul 22, 2016 22:44:08 GMT
Anyway, I believe it's a dream, or more specifically, the dream of a memory. I think Annie is doing some mind-trickery to get into Jeanne's head and she snuck Parley in there somehow, and Jeanne is simply seeing Parley in place of a friend of hers. I wouldn't be surprised if the historical friend is similar to Parley in some way. That's exactly what I ment. Thank you a lot. |
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Post by Eversist on Jul 22, 2016 23:00:45 GMT
I wonder if Tom's only going to show us this "dreamscape" and at the end of the chapter everything will be resolved in the real world, but we'll be left to try and parse out what happened through this lens. First thought, anyway. Not bad, I think. Very much how we saw Annie being sick and receiving help by Zimmy only to figure out why chapters later. This time, it would be on a really large scale, though. Ah yes, I knew I was pulling the concept from someplace! :] |
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Post by fwip on Jul 23, 2016 0:32:50 GMT
New wildspec (not sure if it's been put forward before in an earlier thread - if it has been, please enlighten me) - We're now looking into the Ether itself. The green arrow device split Jeanne into two entities, one with the traits which would make her an effective guardian and one with all of her other emotions. The second entity was sent to the Ether by the device, and that's what (who?) we're seeing here. Because it's only half of a person, it can't be completely released, so it exists in a sort of timeless state, reliving its happiest memories. Even if it's not specifically in the ether, but in some related dream-state, it seems likely that Parley has been split this way.
This doesn't explain why +Jeanne recognized Parley.
Edit: Feel a little silly now, it's already been mentioned.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 23, 2016 1:10:34 GMT
I wonder if Tom's only going to show us this "dreamscape" and at the end of the chapter everything will be resolved in the real world, but we'll be left to try and parse out what happened through this lens. First thought, anyway. Others people commented that the chapter page looked like Jeanne passing into the ether. Maybe you're right and Tom is presenting the passing of Jeanne in reverse and we're now seeing Jeanne shedding her memories. That doesn't explain why Parley would be in Jeanne's idyllic memories of the Court before the split, but if we see Annie leading Jeanne in a few pages, then you deserve cookies. Seems interesting enough for me to vote for Other. |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Jul 23, 2016 1:20:01 GMT
I have a theory- Annie & Co have already defeated Jeane and what we're seeing are her dying thoughts as she fades into the ether.
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 23, 2016 1:43:22 GMT
I wonder if Tom's only going to show us this "dreamscape" and at the end of the chapter everything will be resolved in the real world, but we'll be left to try and parse out what happened through this lens. Remember "Divine" ? If misadventures in the current chapter are going to be messed up as much... And if it's "Spring Heeled, Part 2" grade, this part would be as sensible as a dictionary compared to what awaits us (and them)...  |
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Post by csj on Jul 23, 2016 2:14:32 GMT
I wonder if Parley's great grandma also has a very George-like name, as is tradition. Her great-grandfather, Georgina I wouldn't be surprised if Parley really did remind her of someone she had seen in her life, but the idea of the whole GKC cast recreating Pride and Prejudice is rather amusing... |
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Post by hp on Jul 23, 2016 3:41:41 GMT
In page 773, in the middle of Jeanne's memory trip with Parley and Annie, there is this scene where she (with the Court) and her driad lover (with the Forest) are being separated. In the forest side near the driad there is an obscure Reynardine in fox form. Question. Have they asked Rey about the driad or Jeanne at some point in the story? Has he even been shown acknowledging her existence? I don't recall it happening, but it's been a while since my last whole-GC-marathon |
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Post by shadowhunter on Jul 23, 2016 4:44:47 GMT
Hmmm. I'm a little skeptical about this. Maybe this will be the chapter where I'm wrong about everything at once, but putting them side by side to compare:   She has Parley's nose for sure, and similar hair. Is that enough to go on?  |
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Post by Pig_catapult on Jul 23, 2016 8:32:10 GMT
Tossing my hat in with the "This is a memory with Parley pasted in on top of someone Jeanne actually knew"
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Post by matoyak on Jul 23, 2016 10:37:42 GMT
Tom has never drawn characters with such identical-ness before, but he has made great use of altered states of consciousness and/or reality, so that's what I'm assuming. That's my thoughts on it as well. I dunno, we'll see, but if this is an ancestor then Tom would normally put more effort into differentiating them visually. |
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Post by rickg on Jul 23, 2016 11:02:36 GMT
Okay, WHAT IF this really is Parley, and she's really from Jeanne's/the Founders' time zone? We don't know the extent of her teleportation abilities; what if there was some catastrophic event that caused an emergency temporal shift and sent her forwards in time to present (in-comic) time?
(No, that doesn't explain why they didn't recognise each other in chapter 30)
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Post by csj on Jul 23, 2016 13:02:42 GMT
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 23, 2016 13:08:35 GMT
In page 773, in the middle of Jeanne's memory trip with Parley and Annie, there is this scene where she (with the Court) and her driad lover (with the Forest) are being separated. In the forest side near the driad there is an obscure Reynardine in fox form. Question. Have they asked Rey about the driad or Jeanne at some point in the story? Has he even been shown acknowledging her existence? I don't recall it happening, but it's been a while since my last whole-GC-marathon Renard was with Annie and Kat when they discovered Jeanne's tomb. Renard was the one who quickly surmised that Diego had built the tomb because of unrequited love. But there is no indication that Reynard recognized Jeanne from her portrait or Diego from his picture. EDIT: Or maybe he did and that is why he could accurately discern so much so quickly... |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 23, 2016 15:49:55 GMT
Okay, WHAT IF this really is Parley, and she's really from Jeanne's/the Founders' time zone? We don't know the extent of her teleportation abilities; what if there was some catastrophic event that caused an emergency temporal shift and sent her forwards in time to present (in-comic) time? (No, that doesn't explain why they didn't recognise each other in chapter 30) Hence the poll option "Wibbly wobbly timey wimey shenanigans" -Parley can now time travel (do dee doooo) I still think there is *some* kind of temporal manipulation going on in the story, to explain the tic-tocs. |
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Post by stclair on Jul 23, 2016 21:41:52 GMT
I don't know what's going on (but look forward to finding out).
I just want to say, I love Jeanne's little smirk in the first panel.
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Post by Sauzels on Jul 24, 2016 0:33:19 GMT
Annie's actually been in a coma since she fell off a bridge. This explains why she never ages and why Team Reglamore suddenly seems less threatening. |
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Post by stef1987 on Jul 24, 2016 12:35:20 GMT
Because your great grandma rarely looks this identical to you. Yeah, that's true, but many movies act like the chances are pretty high. (There are like dozens of movies were for no reason a man or woman looks identical to his/her grandparent.) Maybe Tom just followed that trend. ("trend" for lack of better word) |
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Post by warrl on Jul 24, 2016 17:36:24 GMT
The chance that one particular person looks almost exactly like their grandparent at the same age: low.
The chance that you know someone who looks almost exactly like some relative 2-5 generations back at the same age: pretty decent actually.
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