sotha
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Post by sotha on Jul 13, 2016 17:30:15 GMT
Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact that this chapter has been built up to for a DECADE! I don't know much about traditional comics, but I'd wager a bet that you'd be hard pressed to find a lot that are THIS patient with developing a major story arc. Independent webcomics for the win! Well, Freefall has finally finished chapter 1. Started in March of 1998.  Please! It's really more like Book 2... made up of I don't know 15 chapters? Book 1 would be all the introductory stuff, before they started dealing with the whole AI liberation arc. Don't know how long ago that was. Freefall stretches to the beginning of time. Much like Dawn of Time... or Schlock Mercenary. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 13, 2016 17:34:07 GMT
Looks like this chapter will be black and white.* *With little splashes of red. If there are flashbacks, that would be a nice visual to indicate emotional connection or importance. At first, I thought it might be Jeanne and her Green Man in the thumbnail, but it looks like two women. I'm guessing flashback. |
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Post by Nnelg on Jul 13, 2016 19:07:17 GMT
She died and we did nothing.
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Post by warrl on Jul 13, 2016 19:53:48 GMT
Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact that this chapter has been built up to for a DECADE! I don't know much about traditional comics, but I'd wager a bet that you'd be hard pressed to find a lot that are THIS patient with developing a major story arc. Independent webcomics for the win! Freefall is old enough to vote and just finished chapter 1 and the arc about AIs being property - which began in the general area of update 300 (now up to over 2800). Chapter 2 is going to clean up some loose ends from that. Then chapter 3 is going to resume another arc that started around update update 350. One or the other of them must continue something that started in update 1 - which, some readers suspect, is also the next step toward an arc that actually begins deep in the backstory. |
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Post by dramastix on Jul 13, 2016 22:46:17 GMT
End of an arc, maybe, definitely not the end of the comic. This is just one of many dangling plotlines waiting to be resolved, and a potential producer of entirely new challenges. Quite so. My guess is that removing the entity maintaining the separation of Forest and Court will be the catalyst for developing the rest of the hanging plot threads - the robots will be dragged into the coming conflict (potentially involving The Omega Device), and Kat's powers as the Mecha-Angel will be fully realized. And really, having this slow-burning potential threat in the form of Annie's best friend has been a much more engaging ride than that of Jeanne, who we knew was malicious, if sympathetic, pretty much from her introduction so long ago. And I ponder again how much of this Tom had planned out in advance. |
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Post by Fishy on Jul 14, 2016 11:58:06 GMT
I think it goes without saying that this chapter is going to just be a repeat of The Breakout. Just one strip of Parley jumping into the ravine with her energy legs and kicking Jeanne with such incredible force that she's instantly sent into the ether out of pure amazement.
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Post by Trillium on Jul 14, 2016 20:37:56 GMT
She died and we did nothing. Now finally someone is going to do something! |
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Post by Storel on Jul 18, 2016 20:40:06 GMT
Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact that this chapter has been built up to for a DECADE! I don't know much about traditional comics, but I'd wager a bet that you'd be hard pressed to find a lot that are THIS patient with developing a major story arc. Independent webcomics for the win! Freefall is old enough to vote and just finished chapter 1 and the arc about AIs being property - which began in the general area of update 300 (now up to over 2800). Chapter 2 is going to clean up some loose ends from that. Then chapter 3 is going to resume another arc that started around update update 350. One or the other of them must continue something that started in update 1 - which, some readers suspect, is also the next step toward an arc that actually begins deep in the backstory. How do you know what Chapters 2 and 3 of Freefall are going to do? I haven't seen anything about that on the Freefall site itself, and the only forum comment by the author I've found about his future plans was this: |
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Post by eightyfour on Jul 18, 2016 21:18:40 GMT
Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact that this chapter has been built up to for a DECADE! I don't know much about traditional comics, but I'd wager a bet that you'd be hard pressed to find a lot that are THIS patient with developing a major story arc. Independent webcomics for the win! Well, Freefall has finally finished chapter 1. Started in March of 1998. Exactly my point: It's a independent webcomic. Another prime example is Girl Genius: Started in 2000, it is still in the same continuous story arc. Try and find that kind of slow and patient story development in traditionally published media. I figure there may be a few long-running classic superhero comics where some new writer picks up on loose ends that were left by a predecessor. But a plot that's really been planned years and years ahead? I don't think there are many. It just doesn't work well with the traditional publishing method. And no, going on hiatus or being stuck in development hell doesn't count as "being patient".  Which is why I'm so very glad that such a thing as "webcomics" exists, where the authors/artists can do whatever they want with their stories, without the constraints of a classic, commercial model. |
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Post by matoyak on Jul 19, 2016 7:30:55 GMT
Well, Freefall has finally finished chapter 1. Started in March of 1998. Exactly my point: It's a independent webcomic. Another prime example is Girl Genius: Started in 2000, it is still in the same continuous story arc. Try and find that kind of slow and patient story development in traditionally published media. I figure there may be a few long-running classic superhero comics where some new writer picks up on loose ends that were left by a predecessor. But a plot that's really been planned years and years ahead? I don't think there are many. It just doesn't work well with the traditional publishing method. And no, going on hiatus or being stuck in development hell doesn't count as "being patient". Which is why I'm so very glad that such a thing as "webcomics" exists, where the authors/artists can do whatever they want with their stories, without the constraints of a classic, commercial model. The only thing that I can think of that approaches this are genre novel series. Examples of such are anything written by Brandon Sanderson (Stormlight Archive in particular), The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan, A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin (even though outside of book one that series is not very good IMO), most things by Jim Butcher (Dresden Files in particular)... |
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Post by warrl on Jul 19, 2016 18:59:48 GMT
A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin (even though outside of book one that series is not very good IMO) I can't say that - book one left me with no reason or desire to start book two. |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 23, 2016 2:17:06 GMT
The only thing that I can think of that approaches this are genre novel series. Examples of such are anything written by Brandon Sanderson (Stormlight Archive in particular), The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan, A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin (even though outside of book one that series is not very good IMO), most things by Jim Butcher (Dresden Files in particular)... Heh, it looks like sometimes it's easier for an author not to stop... I myself, while considering myself an attentive inspector of the news of fiction,
sometimes don't buy the freshly released sixth book of a saga because my attention somehow
failed to register previous five. But much, much more frequently I decline to buy tome one
if its cover grins with a warning: 'First Book Of the Magic Shit Cycle'.
- Andrzej Sapkowski  |
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Post by matoyak on Jul 23, 2016 10:22:39 GMT
The only thing that I can think of that approaches this are genre novel series. Examples of such are anything written by Brandon Sanderson (Stormlight Archive in particular), The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan, A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin (even though outside of book one that series is not very good IMO), most things by Jim Butcher (Dresden Files in particular)... Heh, it looks like sometimes it's easier for an author not to stop... I myself, while considering myself an attentive inspector of the news of fiction,
sometimes don't buy the freshly released sixth book of a saga because my attention somehow
failed to register previous five. But much, much more frequently I decline to buy tome one
if its cover grins with a warning: 'First Book Of the Magic Shit Cycle'.
- Andrzej Sapkowski Says the guy who started the Witcher series, if I remember the name correctly. Which is another good yet long series. Unfortunate that that's his stance on other books in the genre he writes. |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 23, 2016 20:34:44 GMT
Says the guy who started the Witcher series, if I remember the name correctly. Which is another good yet long series. Unfortunate that that's his stance on other books in the genre he writes. Why "other"?. He did immediately add that nobody's perfect and he expects 10th „Amber” at the time, knowing it's not going to be the peak of the series. He added that yes, this comes from the one writing all the "Witchers" after "Authors are arrogant rascals convinced that the reader will buy anything as long as it's signed with a known name". After analysis of the problem. There are reasons why "Pirug" became almost required reading in fandoms over East Europe and ex-USSR. Not that this particular issue is a big enigma, it's just nice to have all the common warts brought together, nicely catalogued and illustrated with cross-sections. The solution is, of course, to succumb halfway - let go of the characters, but have the setting reused from more faces and places. As plainly stated by Greenwood, but rarely done by the individual authors (as opposed to team Shared Universes) - the most widely known example probably is McCafrey's Pern. |
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