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Post by TBeholder on Jul 6, 2016 12:47:19 GMT
Annie finally started doing what she should have been doing from the day Anja taught her, whenever she sees anything unusual and/or interesting... rather than waiting until everything goes to rubber bats.
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 6, 2016 13:16:17 GMT
*Peeks out of lurking hole* Calling it now. The strings are attached to Jean, or failing that, her lover (as in they'll disappear into the river). *Ducks back into lurking hole* You mean to say Andrew is the Omega Device?! *melodramatic music*This does make me wonder, though, is Andrew the spider or the fly? |
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Post by calpal on Jul 6, 2016 13:55:59 GMT
So when are they finally gonna tie the knot?
Ba-dum tsh
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Post by fish on Jul 6, 2016 14:27:21 GMT
Annie finally started doing what she should have been doing from the day Anja taught her, whenever she sees anything unusual and/or interesting... rather than waiting until everything goes to rubber bats. I don't think this would have been of much use before this chapter. It is implied on page 1680 that seeing someones true etheric nature is a new ability due to Annie shedding her "training wheels" (blinker stone) and concentrating more. |
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Post by philman on Jul 6, 2016 15:03:22 GMT
whats up with people trying to twist this into something dark? They are intwined with each other. He is as intwined with her as she is with him out of mutually developed love. Except these strings were established earlier to represent Smitty's subconscious etheric manipulation. It's the only explanation that explains why no one else has these strings, for instance. No one else we have seen anyway. There are plenty more strings going off into the darkness, who knows who or what they are connected to? |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 6, 2016 19:29:44 GMT
His powers are subconscious, as far as we know.
He may have been surprised by Parley's feelings, but it's possible he subconsciously influenced them.
But I don't feel like there's anything really *wrong* here, especially since we really don't know how his powers work yet.
For me, the jury is still out. My bets are on Antimony taking the worst possible course of action, though, based on what we've seen so far.
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 6, 2016 19:32:47 GMT
This page reminds me of the first time we got to see Smitty holding the strings of fate.
After the discussion had died down I privately speculated that we might perhaps see what Smitty manipulating the strings looks like ethervision. After some back and forth I came to the conclusion that this vision isn't developing Smitty as a character; him holding the strings of fate is just a reasonable visualization of his power of luck. What it is however is a way to develop Antimony, since she is changing and is able to see thing she did not before.
Therefore I thought nothing would come of that.
This page however suggests that this vision will be seen more from now on. I don't know how to feel about that.
One small speculation for Friday: Annie will look where the strings are going, and realize that they are bound directly to the arrow in the Annan waters, thereby giving them a way to perfectly locate them. Smitty probably wants to right the wrongs Jeanne experienced, and the way there is by the arrow.
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Post by Eversist on Jul 6, 2016 22:38:29 GMT
I have a feeling the rest of the strings just represent "other."
That being said, it'd totally be cool to me to get back to the Jeanne storyline.
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Post by shadow3 on Jul 7, 2016 4:29:33 GMT
LOVE IS MAGIC
LOVE BINDS DESTINIES
LOVE TRANSCENDS THE PHYSICAL
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Post by Nepycros on Jul 7, 2016 7:19:23 GMT
If I were Antimony, I would grab George away from Smitty right then, and not give her back until he promised that he wasn't using his powers to make her like him. There've been a couple instances of people beating strawmen, and blowing this statement out of proportion. However, that doesn't resolve the unease stirred up by completely speculative and suspicious fearmongering. When in the hell have we seen Smitty demonstrate anything remotely suspicious enough to warrant this kind of statement? |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 7, 2016 15:51:11 GMT
You mean to say Andrew is the Omega Device?! *melodramatic music*That would explain why they needed a medical doctor to help them with the Omega Project... If I were Antimony, I would grab George away from Smitty right then, and not give her back until he promised that he wasn't using his powers to make her like him. There've been a couple instances of people beating strawmen, and blowing this statement out of proportion. However, that doesn't resolve the unease stirred up by completely speculative and suspicious fearmongering. When in the hell have we seen Smitty demonstrate anything remotely suspicious enough to warrant this kind of statement? Agreed. IF this does reflect that Smitty's powers are making Parley like him, there are some philosophical issues with that (obviously), but we've never, ever seen indications that Smitty is doing such a thing intentionally. It would run counter to everything we know about his character since his introduction. What I do find interesting is the idea that this effect is part of the reason he doesn't like to use his powers consciously. |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 7, 2016 20:54:45 GMT
I don't think this would have been of much use before this chapter. She didn't look at Jack until he was mucking around with her blinker. Or pretty much at anyone and anything in the Court unless a trouble starts and grows big - and often not even then. Presumably including first-generation golems, James, Jonathan, Seraphs with a stack of stick-it-wards and Anthony - in all these cases there was something important she may or may not have immediately noticed, but she didn't try it until the point was moot. As far as we know, until Faraway Morning - that is, after the end of Spring Heeled when she could have learned something, and The Coward Heart and Fire Spike, where she also got more than a little shake (the Foleys class was later, and even then she looked only when she thought it looks really weird). As they say, "Hedgehog's a proud bird - won't fly 'till you kick him". Of course, being that dense about obvious stuff is a... well... very human thing to do. She just had it expressed in an area where it quickly became facepalm-tastic, given how her life rolls.  It is implied on page 1680 that seeing someones true etheric nature is a new ability due to Annie shedding her "training wheels" (blinker stone) and concentrating more. " Thin air". What "true etheric nature"? Annie have seen Renard as a fox the first time she used blinker on her own. And that was the last time for quite a while. |
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Post by lunaleaf on Jul 7, 2016 22:55:32 GMT
I still love those eyebrows in panel 3. Gets me every time. Also I agree, but mostly eyebrows. |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Jul 7, 2016 23:04:04 GMT
What "true etheric nature"? Annie have seen Renard as a fox the first time she used blinker on her own. And that was the last time for quite a while. Not sure why you say she should have been doing that since the day Anja taught her, when Anja never actually taught her that and she learned it just recently. |
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Post by keef on Jul 7, 2016 23:23:57 GMT
This does make me wonder, though, is Andrew the spider or the fly? He is the fly that knows how to make the spiders dance.
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Post by pasko on Jul 8, 2016 7:19:27 GMT
Thanks Before the discussion on free will, I was just interpreting that binding as their connection, I liked the image. |
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Post by tiberius on Jul 8, 2016 9:26:08 GMT
I am just wondering about the whole string-theory: Why do we think, Parley might love him because of the strings? Wouldn't it be more likely that these strings exist because of their love? So, the other way around, actually? I agree with Daedalus: What we have seen from Andrew, never implied he is a kind of puppet master. On the contrary from my point of view. He is aware of at least part of his abilities and luckily enough being careful with them (as if he really needs more luck ...). He even did not force George to publicly show their relationship until she was ready to do so after she encountered Jeanne. So, from my point of view, these strings only exist whenever he has a deep and solid connection with another person. When he cares about them and loves them and this love is working two-ways. I would suspect, he can't connect these strings onto someone else, through force. Of course, he still is incredibly lucky, because he found his love. And Parley remains to be an awesome badass girlfriend to have. Where might the others go? Maybe to his family, we haven't seen yet. |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Jul 8, 2016 10:53:15 GMT
I think that Parley always had the capacity to love Smiity (and Smitty always had the capacity to love Parley, but them actually getting together was because of Smitty's powers influencing probability.
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Post by sebastian on Jul 8, 2016 15:33:10 GMT
I'm the only one that thought of Teela Brown from the ringworld books by Larry Niven reading this discussion?
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 9, 2016 9:16:03 GMT
What "true etheric nature"? Annie have seen Renard as a fox the first time she used blinker on her own. And that was the last time for quite a while. Not sure why you say she should have been doing that since the day Anja taught her, when Anja never actually taught her that and she learned it just recently. And these tricks Coyote taught her, and... so? There's always more. The point is, for a long while Annie didn't use what she already did have - which could save her a lot of headache. But that's just what we know or can guess she missed, and how much we don't? |
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