rolandofgilead
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Post by rolandofgilead on Jun 30, 2013 5:07:21 GMT
Different people show they care in different ways. Anthony shows he cares by being a totally distant jerkface. You're starting to sound like Annie. |
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Post by tpman on Jun 30, 2013 18:01:42 GMT
Does Anthony remind anyone else of Jones..? Like how he's all distant and bails when Surma dies. It doesn't make much sense since he's clearly aged (maybe) but it was interesting to think about My old theory was that Jones, Anthony and Annie were all blood relatives. I originally thought maybe Jones was Annie's Aunt or something. I suppouse it's still possible she's Annie's grandma, but I can't see Jones as being able to bear children. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 1, 2013 9:03:09 GMT
You know, reading Tom's Formspring answers on the subject, it almost seems like a war or at least a confrontation between the court and the forest is a likely thing. He doesn't confirm, obviously, but he always comes shy of denying it as well. "Why is Ysengrin referred to as "General"? Was there some kind of war?" Tom: We shall see "Is it possible for the Court and Forest to go to war with each other, should the problems between them escalate too high?" Tom: This situation has not happened. "Don't worry about that, Gaiman says he is always late at stuff to! And so i would recommend American Gods, Coraline and (duh) Sandman (and Death, of the Endless!). And a question! Why Gunnerkrigg, that looks like a German word? Gun/weapon war?" Tom: Yeah, that was intentional. "Will there ever be a war between Gillitie and Gunnerkrigg? Or almost a war?" Tom: I'll email you the details That last one was probably cheek, but I'd like to think there's a lucky fan out there who knows the truth. |
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Post by Nnelg on Jul 1, 2013 9:38:50 GMT
You know, reading Tom's Formspring answers on the subject, it almost seems like a war or at least a confrontation between the court and the forest is a likely thing. Hmm... It seems to me that this is Coyote's goal, for whatever reason. He's been conditioning Ysengrin to be hostile to the Court, certainly. He managed to strip away Renard's friendship with (most) humans, too. In fact... I wonder how much of a hand Coyote had in setting up the hostilities between the Court and the Forest in the first place. I don't think he created the gulf between them, but I have a sneaking suspicion that he did whatever he could to drive it wider, to get tensions to rise and hostilities to boil over. We know for a fact that he made the physical divide... Okay then, new theory: Coyote made the Annan Waters to prevent the wounds in Court-Forest relations to heal, allowing tensions to build up cold war-style until they finally reach the breaking point and the war turned hot. His plan almost succeeded, except... The Court had a plan of their own. "Fortifying" the Annan Waters in this way actually prevented open war, allowing things to calm back down. Yeah, I like this one. (I say that too much, don't I?  ) It explains why the people in the Court were willing to take such drastic measures, even as good-natured individuals. (Whether said measures were morally justifiable is another issue.) |
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Post by Georgie L on Jul 4, 2013 23:04:24 GMT
My views on a war in Gunnerkrigg.
I believe before the sealing of the Annan Waters and later addition of the bridge, there was verging on a war, but through doing the horrible act of murdering one of there own to stop the crossing of the waters the war was prevented.
But here's my further theorising, Coyote was one of the major forces trying to implant the idea into the court. I have no evidence for this.
I don't believe coyote wants a war, but I do believe that he wants to keep court-forest relations intentionally tense for as long as possible because tension to his mind equals fun. To compare to an activity children do when testing boundaries, he wants to see how much he can push his boundaries before they bite back but will probably never take the idea of war as more than a silly game. This might backfire on him though, I expect the court will take his games very seriously.
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Post by ahriman on Jul 28, 2013 4:55:14 GMT
More like a Cold War. I don't think they'll benefit from open conflict and they must realize that on some level or they wouldn't be sending emissaries to the other half of the court. But they clearly have their own separate agendas and work to further their own goals.
Also, I just feel like mentioning that when Coyote offered Annie to stay in the forest for the summer he was obviously antagonizing them by trying to sway Annie to their side. "Haha, fire head girl will see how much nicer it is here!" Magnificent bastard.
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 28, 2013 4:59:53 GMT
Yeah, open war would definitely be disastrous for both sides.
Does anyone remember what word of Tom said about whether there was anyone above the headmaster in rank?
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Post by Lightice on Jul 28, 2013 7:36:04 GMT
Does anyone remember what word of Tom said about whether there was anyone above the headmaster in rank? I'd imagine that there's a board of directors or some such equivalent, like in normal schools. Someone must appoint the Headmasters to their position. |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 30, 2013 18:10:49 GMT
Does anyone remember what word of Tom said about whether there was anyone above the headmaster in rank? I'd imagine that there's a board of directors or some such equivalent, like in normal schools. Someone must appoint the Headmasters to their position. What the Court have to do with "schools"? And which ones you call normal - and normal to what, for that matter?  |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 30, 2013 21:53:07 GMT
I'd imagine that there's a board of directors or some such equivalent, like in normal schools. Someone must appoint the Headmasters to their position. What the Court have to do with "schools"? And which ones you call normal - and normal to what, for that matter? The Court seems like a fairly typical research university to me: massive sprawling buildings, most of them unused and in disrepair, a very small, select group of students from families with money, and a headmaster as manipulative as he is cantankerous. It's almost like I've taken a step back into the UC system. |
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Post by tpman on Aug 3, 2013 3:39:55 GMT
Some people are predisposed towards stoic and calm behavior. It doesn't mean that they're cold or not earnest, but merely subdued and sober. Or bad with people, but certainly not robots. And there's this.So many questions about him. I'm dying to know about the Etheric Space Bones. Anthony Carver, Orbiting Man of Mystery. Heck, we don't even know if he's orbiting. Is Mr.Carver in space, or does he just make use of satellites? |
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Post by legion on Oct 5, 2013 10:34:36 GMT
Here is some.
We know Tom is a fan of Gumnn.
In Gunnm Last Order, there is a character know as the Lieutenant Payne. He starts off as a one-note villain, and gets killed between 7 pages of him showing up. But just before dying, he delivers an armor perceing question. From this point in the series, he becomes a recurring character growing progressively in importance, not in the form of flashbacks, but in the form of a haunting, recurring, questioning voice in the head of Alita/Gally, which provides a lot of character development for her as he stands for an incarnation of complete cynicism, which clashes with her idealism.
Speculation: Hetty will go on to have a similar role with Reynardine.
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Post by nero on Oct 9, 2013 0:10:55 GMT
Before I forget: I was just thinking that either Jones could be a natural spirit or created by a spirit that somehow changed her form. Or she is a special foreign metal, that can take any form and given life by some creator for some purpose on earth.
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 9, 2013 2:56:58 GMT
Those both indicate someone made her. I wonder who did?
She could be somehow a natural occurrence because of a lot of ether too? I don't know. It's hard to tell because we don't even know WHAT she is.
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 14, 2013 19:06:58 GMT
"Why is Ysengrin referred to as "General"? Was there some kind of war?" Tom: We shall see. We have seen. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 14, 2013 22:12:45 GMT
"Why is Ysengrin referred to as "General"? Was there some kind of war?" Tom: We shall see. We have seen. We do...? ...This is just another one of those times that I have really bad memory, isn't it? |
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 14, 2013 23:49:45 GMT
We do...? ...This is just another one of those times that I have really bad memory, isn't it? Annie just went a round of bodies with his army and showed them who was boss. Jury is still out on how army-like this "army" actually is. They might just be a bunch of old friends he gets together with to roughhouse when he's feeling old rather than an actual armed fighting force with a political rationale. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 14, 2013 23:58:26 GMT
We do...? ...This is just another one of those times that I have really bad memory, isn't it? Annie just went a round of bodies with his army and showed them who was boss. Jury is still out on how army-like this "army" actually is. They might just be a bunch of old friends he gets together with to roughhouse when he's feeling old rather than an actual armed fighting force with a political rationale. Oh, I see. I wonder if Ysen has friends :? |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 15, 2013 2:27:11 GMT
Annie just went a round of bodies with his army and showed them who was boss. Jury is still out on how army-like this "army" actually is. They might just be a bunch of old friends he gets together with to roughhouse when he's feeling old rather than an actual armed fighting force with a political rationale. Oh, I see. I wonder if Ysen has friends :? Annie, recently? Not much else comes to mind. Coyote, if we're willing to significantly warp the definition of 'friend' until it resembles abuser. My own contribution to this wild-speculation-fest: the Coyote Blade's future function in the story Reasoning: Coyote, when introducing this dangerous weapon, says it could 'cut the very earth'. Though the jury's still out on exactly what Jones is ( she doesn't know herself, after all), she is intimately tied to the Earth. It has been shown to be pretty damn sharp sharp before, and as such, may be able to do what other swords cannot: damage her, despite her ridiculous invulnerability. These are both beings of the etheric level, and as such, it would be interesting to see what would happen if their powers were put to the test. This may be Coyote's plan for this blade, as it has had a limited agency before (unless Coyote wanted Shadow put into 3D for his own unfathomable reasons). Plus, depending on how this worked out, it could be HILARIOUS, from his perspective: such as if Jimmy-Jims decided to spar against her with it and she tried the same move as before. It also could be that this blade could cut another rift to rival the Annan Waters. Everyone agrees that Coyote divided the Court and Forest, and recent portrayals of the event have shown Coyote using his teeth to cut the rift (though keep in mind the fact that the accuracy of the event is questionable, as Coyote said in his own idiosyncratic irritating way). The tooth may have a similar ability, if we see Coyote's statement more literally as 'cut a rift in the very earth'. Perhaps the blade could also heal the rift? Or be used to fight Jeanne, as Annie has suggested? (For that matter, what would happen if Jeanne *did* die? Would the monsters from Fun City invade the Court, perhaps with flame-retardant suits this time? I am now trying to imagine them all dressed as firefighters storming the Court. This scenario needs fanart.) |
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 15, 2013 12:01:24 GMT
Oh, I see. I wonder if Ysen has friends :? Annie, recently? Not much else comes to mind. He may have had a forest elf as a good pal. Or, say, Steadman... I mean, when we can see the glimpses, 'Grin seems to be not just annoyed, or aggressive out of boredom, or pissed off for the sake of appearances, he's really pissed off. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 15, 2013 15:46:54 GMT
Annie, recently? Not much else comes to mind. He may have had a forest elf as a good pal. Or, say, Steadman... I mean, when we can see the glimpses, 'Grin seems to be not just annoyed, or aggressive out of boredom, or pissed off for the sake of appearances, he's really pissed off. I want his temper/annoyance to calm down a bit... I mean, when he first appeared I thought he was a jerk. But I guess if he was nice all the time, then he wouldn't be Ysen |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 15, 2013 17:59:37 GMT
He may have had a forest elf as a good pal. Or, say, Steadman... I mean, when we can see the glimpses, 'Grin seems to be not just annoyed, or aggressive out of boredom, or pissed off for the sake of appearances, he's really pissed off. I want his temper/annoyance to calm down a bit... I mean, when he first appeared I thought he was a jerk. But I guess if he was nice all the time, then he wouldn't be Ysen True. Honestly, this is why the last few pages have been heartwarming: he has been letting this anger subside a bit. Drastic shift of character. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 15, 2013 22:02:14 GMT
I want his temper/annoyance to calm down a bit... I mean, when he first appeared I thought he was a jerk. But I guess if he was nice all the time, then he wouldn't be Ysen True. Honestly, this is why the last few pages have been heartwarming: he has been letting this anger subside a bit. Drastic shift of character. I was really shocked when he began to talk civilly at first. Because when I first saw him he was trying to accuse the court of the tiktok on the cliff face and yelling his head off. |
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Post by keef on Oct 15, 2013 22:22:03 GMT
My own contribution to this wild-speculation-fest: the Coyote Blade's future function in the story Reasoning: Coyote, when introducing this dangerous weapon, says it could 'cut the very earth'. Though the jury's still out on exactly what Jones is ( she doesn't know herself, after all), she is intimately tied to the Earth. It has been shown to be pretty damn sharp sharp before, and as such, may be able to do what other swords cannot: damage her, despite her ridiculous invulnerability. These are both beings of the etheric level, and as such, it would be interesting to see what would happen if their powers were put to the test. This may be Coyote's plan for this blade, as it has had a limited agency before (unless Coyote wanted Shadow put into 3D for his own unfathomable reasons). Plus, depending on how this worked out, it could be HILARIOUS, from his perspective: I don't think this is wild speculation, not very wild at all. A weapon is introduced that is capable of cutting anything, so the moment Jones told she was indestructible, we were supposed to make a connection, I think. And of course it might well be a red herring. |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 16, 2013 1:22:41 GMT
My own contribution to this wild-speculation-fest: the Coyote Blade's future function in the story Reasoning: Coyote, when introducing this dangerous weapon, says it could 'cut the very earth'. Though the jury's still out on exactly what Jones is ( she doesn't know herself, after all), she is intimately tied to the Earth. It has been shown to be pretty damn sharp sharp before, and as such, may be able to do what other swords cannot: damage her, despite her ridiculous invulnerability. These are both beings of the etheric level, and as such, it would be interesting to see what would happen if their powers were put to the test. This may be Coyote's plan for this blade, as it has had a limited agency before (unless Coyote wanted Shadow put into 3D for his own unfathomable reasons). Plus, depending on how this worked out, it could be HILARIOUS, from his perspective: I don't think this is wild speculation, not very wild at all. A weapon is introduced that is capable of cutting anything, so the moment Jones told she was indestructible, we were supposed to make a connection, I think. And of course it might well be a red herring. Definitely could be either real or a red herring. I was quite surprised not to have seen this in the speculation earlier. |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 10, 2013 22:06:38 GMT
New wild speculation: Paz will end up interpreting between Aly and Kat sometime in the future.
Reasonging: think about it. Kat's current love interest is the only one able to communicate with her former love interest. Furthermore, Tom has stated that Aly no longer has his human reasoning, but has also said that Paz causes an intelligence boost in animals to facilitate communication. It would all fit so nicely! And ehh, it's wild speculation, so why not?
(Also, why so many three-names? Kat, Paz, Aly...)
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 10, 2013 23:43:55 GMT
New wild speculation: Paz will end up interpreting between Aly and Kat sometime in the future. Reasonging: think about it. Kat's current love interest is the only one able to communicate with her former love interest. Furthermore, Tom has stated that Aly no longer has his human reasoning, but has also said that Paz causes an intelligence boost in animals to facilitate communication. It would all fit so nicely! And ehh, it's wild speculation, so why not? (Also, why so many three-names? Kat, Paz, Aly...) That would be awesome if it happened I was pretty disappointed when I figured Aly was pretty much a static character. |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 11, 2013 1:36:03 GMT
New wild speculation: Paz will end up interpreting between Aly and Kat sometime in the future. Reasoning: think about it. Kat's current love interest is the only one able to communicate with her former love interest. Furthermore, Tom has stated that Aly no longer has his human reasoning, but has also said that Paz causes an intelligence boost in animals to facilitate communication. It would all fit so nicely! And ehh, it's wild speculation, so why not? (Also, why so many three-names? Kat, Paz, Aly...) Disregarding the usual "never saw him again" argument, that sounds like the sort of thing Tom would do About the three-names, worth noting that two of them are nicknames. "Katerina, Paz, Alistair" |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 11, 2013 13:50:55 GMT
Different people show they care in different ways. Anthony shows he cares by being a totally distant jerkface. You're starting to sound like Kat. Fixed it for you! |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 11, 2013 13:55:36 GMT
My wild speculation (voiced elsewhere) is that Kat will invent the tictocs to 'watch over' the robots ... AND ANNIE WHO SHE KNOWS WILL FALL OFF THE BRIDGE AND BE SAVED BY TICTOCS ... and somehow send them back in time!
Totally unlikely because it's so contrived.
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) It explains why the people in the Court were willing to take such drastic measures, even as 
