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Post by Georgie L on Apr 11, 2012 2:27:17 GMT
We only have Ysengrin's word on that, and he is known to have lied about when he discovered the bird and what he did immediately afterward. The Tic-Toc that Ysengrin brought to the parley had at least one huge metal tube growing out of it which was nowhere to be seen when Annie cut it open, and which could not have fit inside the bird without warping space. That fits with the started growing theory. only other explanation is self-replicating nanites. |
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Post by descoladavirus on Apr 11, 2012 17:55:19 GMT
The Tic-Toc that Ysengrin brought to the parley had at least one huge metal tube growing out of it which was nowhere to be seen when Annie cut it open, and which could not have fit inside the bird without warping space. That fits with the started growing theory. only other explanation is self-replicating nanites. I think its quite likely that yes it had started growing. Whats odd though is that Ysengrin knew to bury it to cause that growth. Has he had some interaction with these birds before? While the design of the bird doesn't fit with Diego's work or the current iteration of court robots, it does seem like the extraordinary stuff created/researched at the court. I think Annie's quest to find out how the court came about is looking in the wrong places. The humans of the court wouldn't know much (or wouldn't tell her if they did) but the forest creatures that originally gave permission for the seed bismuth to be grown in a part of their forest might still somehow be around, or might have left some clue for descendants. |
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Post by maximkat on Apr 16, 2012 16:37:54 GMT
Is there a list of unresolved mysteries somewhere? We still don't know how Surma ended up with Anthony, instead of Jimmy Jims, do we?
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Post by kokomuff on Apr 18, 2012 1:24:15 GMT
Just wanted to put this out here, though its likely already been said: there is an element Antimony. if anyone is acually interested, wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimonywhat this has to do with anything, i don't know. |
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Post by todd on Apr 18, 2012 12:01:29 GMT
Just wanted to put this out here, though its likely already been said: there is an element Antimony. if anyone is acually interested, wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimonywhat this has to do with anything, i don't know. Don't take this the wrong way, please, but Antimony being named after an element is old news here - old news on a "Queen Anne is dead" level. |
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Post by kokomuff on Apr 21, 2012 15:17:35 GMT
Just wanted to put this out here, though its likely already been said: there is an element Antimony. if anyone is acually interested, wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimonywhat this has to do with anything, i don't know. Don't take this the wrong way, please, but Antimony being named after an element is old news here - old news on a "Queen Anne is dead" level. i figured that, but I don't really care 
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Post by blahzor on Apr 26, 2012 0:53:42 GMT
Surma is contacting Zimmy from the dead to help her recreate Weekend at Bernie's 2
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Post by warrl on Apr 27, 2012 8:22:56 GMT
Antimony is in the hospital (and Katrina looks even worse) because Annie, without thinking things through carefully, took Kat's advice. A fire elemental really should not take a shower. |
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Post by Raph on Apr 27, 2012 9:16:21 GMT
Shes in the hospital, just like her mother... Annie's pregnant!
But I feel safe assuming it's her cut, but not knowing any king of not overly intrincate explanation.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 27, 2012 9:54:22 GMT
If Antimony's cut is killing her slowly then it would explain the timing of this page. I always wondered why Jeanne didn't attack before Parley crashed the party; perhaps Jeanne knew she didn't need to. |
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Post by flutters on Apr 27, 2012 12:50:55 GMT
Jones is not an alien, a robot, or anything thereof.
She is an octopus who has perfected its camoflauge technique.
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Post by Clouds on Apr 27, 2012 18:41:50 GMT
I was going to post this on #1031's comic thread, but it probably fits better here. Annie's father has found a way to extract the fire from a fire elemental/human hybrid's body, and he -- whether she knows it or not -- is currently doing it to Annie. Her hair is fading, because her fire elemental heritage is what gave her the pinkish-red colour.
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Post by Sivo on May 1, 2012 18:24:33 GMT
This is much more general than current speculation, but it's been nagging me a bit to point this possibility out. In Native American myths, there are two very well known animal deities. One is Coyote... The other is...  Raven. Is this the master of the Wandering Eye and/or the strange mechanical birds neither the Court or the Forest claims to know the origin of? Can this be the 'Creator' Coyote sloppily distributed stars for? |
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Post by GK Sierra on May 19, 2012 4:43:17 GMT
I've been reading chapter 28, and I wonder, did Antimony's presence in Zimmy's little etheric dreamworld cause the streaking that we now see in her hair?
The panel that prompted the thought is the one in which Antimony is revealed to actually be Zimmy, and vice versa.
None of that exchange makes sense to me, even now. Why did Jack need his own memories? How did Zimmy get substituted for Annie, even though the reader had visual contact with her the whole time?
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Post by gary on May 19, 2012 4:54:47 GMT
How did Zimmy get substituted for Annie, even though the reader had visual contact with her the whole time? The reader didn't. www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=729Annie on panel 4 of this page is standing exactly where Zimmy is in panel 3, you're just meant to assume time has passed when it hasn't. |
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Post by GK Sierra on May 19, 2012 5:00:05 GMT
How did Zimmy get substituted for Annie, even though the reader had visual contact with her the whole time? The reader didn't. www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=729Annie on panel 4 of this page is standing exactly where Zimmy is in panel 3, you're just meant to assume time has passed when it hasn't. I guess I see what you mean, but- Do you mean panel 4 and 5? Because if that's where the switch is happening, that's where I see it. Because if it was 3 and 4 that would mean that Antimony walks in though the door, turns into Zimmy and then immediately high tails it in the opposite direction, which has morphed from a door to an alleyway. |
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 19, 2012 5:09:59 GMT
None of that exchange makes sense to me, even now. Why did Jack need his own memories? If I recall correctly, the ether-spider infestation had split Jack's soul/self/memories/whatever into eight fragments. The spider had to catch 'em all in order to gain complete control over Jack's body, which would enable him to enter the physical world and cause further mischief. This page is where the switch occurs. We readers have visual contact with Zimmy the whole time, but not visual contact with Annie. The first four panels on the page are a third-person depiction of Annie's perspective. Panel five onward, we switch to Zimmy's perspective without any warning. |
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Post by gary on May 19, 2012 9:08:02 GMT
I guess I see what you mean, but- Do you mean panel 4 and 5? Because if that's where the switch is happening, that's where I see it. Because if it was 3 and 4 that would mean that Antimony walks in though the door, turns into Zimmy and then immediately high tails it in the opposite direction, which has morphed from a door to an alleyway. Yeah 5 not 3. Stupid typo. |
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Post by ischaldirh on May 20, 2012 1:06:33 GMT
Being as I read the whole story within the last week I feel certain parts which may be ancient history to you come to mind relating to more recent events and speculations. If I may, this is re: Ysingrin, the tic-toc birds, and things being planted (literally and figuratively): www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=288Ysingrin also planted one of these in Robot, with some... interesting effects. Additionally, keep in mind the bird was buried/planted on the forest side of the river, where the answer to "Why?" often is "It just does, okay?" |
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Post by ischaldirh on May 24, 2012 14:06:37 GMT
Odd. I just noticed... under normal circumstances, Renard's forehead only displays the alchemical symbol for Antimony (representing.. well, you know). However in the 4th Treatise, he is show with both Antimony, and Mercury (which represents himself).
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Post by TBeholder on May 24, 2012 14:56:36 GMT
under normal circumstances, Renard's forehead only displays the alchemical symbol for Antimony (representing.. well, you know). However in the 4th Treatise, he is show with both Antimony, and Mercury (which represents himself). ? |
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Post by ischaldirh on May 24, 2012 22:52:33 GMT
under normal circumstances, Renard's forehead only displays the alchemical symbol for Antimony (representing.. well, you know). However in the 4th Treatise, he is show with both Antimony, and Mercury (which represents himself). ? . Renardine almost every other time he appears. With the exception of his first appearance with a symbol on his forehead. That is the alchemical symbol for mercury. |
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 25, 2012 13:39:01 GMT
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Post by Georgie L on May 25, 2012 14:50:37 GMT
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Post by avurai on May 25, 2012 16:56:51 GMT
Smitty should totally be the medium. Everything is in order when he touches it!
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Post by ischaldirh on May 25, 2012 17:28:56 GMT
Excellent point. I hadn't noticed that. Well, Smitty's abilities definitely help Parley's teleportation. They would make a pretty unstoppable pair. But, IRL, relationships and responsibilities often mix with volatile results. However, I am definitely a fan of the theory of Parley = next dragon hunter. |
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Post by superstarletce on May 26, 2012 6:46:43 GMT
Is Jones a star?
We know she's very heavy. We know she's called Wandering Eye, and one of Coyote's eyes has become the star Arcturus before. We also know that Antimony is only ever referred to Coyote when she has questions about Jones.
Wild, indeed.
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Post by superstarletce on May 26, 2012 6:50:13 GMT
And since planets moved across the night sky, they were considering something of wanderers, correct? Or a planet! That makes sense as well. I wonder which planet she would be? |
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Post by GK Sierra on May 26, 2012 15:01:27 GMT
And since planets moved across the night sky, they were considering something of wanderers, correct? Or a planet! That makes sense as well. I wonder which planet she would be? I would say Mercury if it wasn't already Reynardine's symbol: Solid, dense, and completely devoid of distinguishing features. |
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Post by superstarletce on May 27, 2012 0:15:24 GMT
Or a planet! That makes sense as well. I wonder which planet she would be? I would say Mercury if it wasn't already Reynardine's symbol: Solid, dense, and completely devoid of distinguishing features. I was thinking Pluto for the same reasons. Solid, dense, devoid of distinguishing features... lies at the outskirts and keeps its own erratic orbit. But, uh, that's not a planet anymore. |
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